Originally posted by Junyang700:I aint one of those who refuse to move in.
I am one of those that clear the tables and got told off, as I have said earlier.
The auntie fear she will lose her job.
That's why i clear trays selectively.
Originally posted by Junyang700:5 Reasons Why WE SHOULD NOT CLEAR tables at fastfood restaurants.
1) Fastfood in Singapore is not like other countries. It is slow and expensive, more expensive than Pizza Hut, Delifrance and Cafe Cartel on Weekdays. Certainly, we expect some service. Already, we are being chased off at Macdonalds after paying up for our meals and made to stand at the side like a stupid idiot. Even chilli and ketchup sauce is now available in a bin for you to squeeze it yourself.
2) Aunties and uncles who are clearing the tables now will get retrenched, as they no longer need to station a single staff to clear tables. while fastfood chains earn more, and their CEOs earn more. Middle line to line staff do not earn more, nor the customers benefit. These aunties and uncles are low wage income holders, and they may have to beg on the streets without a low-skilled job.
3) With the clearing of the tables, leftovers will be left to rot by minority inconsiderate patrons while there are no cleaners to clean up spillages and leftovers. Think of the cockroaches, lizards and ants sharing a meal with you on the same table.
4) Its meant to be fast - I have to queue up for the food, wait for my food to be cooked, squeeze my own ketchup, eat my own food, clear my own table, HOW CAN IT BE FAST?
5) Any add ons?
Please send this to the small brain Lee Hsien Loong who suggested clearing trays. He is only good at petty things like this.
i make it a habit to clear my trays.
pour the trash into the bin, and leave the tray on the counter
and i realised when ppl see me doing tt, they will do it too
except got a few times the ppl sitting near the clearing area gave some weird looks
but sometimes the auntie relli 眼明手快, come and take the tray and wipe table within 2 seconds my butt left the seat.
I only clear my trays only after I have finish eating at a fast food restaurant.
No, too lazy
suddenly, social graces and common courtesy has become.. a liability?
well, at least to the TS...
btw.. it took you a lot more effort to write your bullshit, think up excuses to support your self-centred selfish lack of character, and rationalisation of your complete and utter lack of å®¶æ•™ than it is to clear your goddamned tray..
and you are an insult to humanity, and your parents should be utterly ashamed that they have you for a progeny.. and if they are not, they should be slapped for having you... and should have their breeding rights revoked...
Originally posted by the Bear:suddenly, social graces and common courtesy has become.. a liability?
well, at least to the TS...
btw.. it took you a lot more effort to write your bullshit, think up excuses to support your self-centred selfish lack of character, and rationalisation of your complete and utter lack of å®¶æ•™ than it is to clear your goddamned tray..
and you are an insult to humanity, and your parents should be utterly ashamed that they have you for a progeny.. and if they are not, they should be slapped for having you... and should have their breeding rights revoked...
Please read carefully the thread. I was told off for clearing my tables. =)
You should be totally ashamed of yourself for flaming people even before reading up facts yourself. Your ancestors ought to be ashamed of you too.
Originally posted by Junyang700:Please read carefully the thread. I was told off for clearing my tables. =)
You should be totally ashamed of yourself for flaming people even before reading up facts yourself. Your ancestors ought to be ashamed of you too.
so?
does that mean u put aside courtesy and social graces?
do u litter so that the sweepers have something to do?
of cos, u dun need to clear table after u finish eating at restorans
u paid service charge.
Originally posted by kopiosatu:so?
does that mean u put aside courtesy and social graces?
do u litter so that the sweepers have something to do?
Like what Dondontan say... Selective clearing. Places like fastfood restaurants, do not clear. Unless there are no cleaners on duty or when the cleaner is too busy clearing, clear yourself. If auntie is slacking there... let her do the job. Dun cause her to lose her job.
Of course, nobody goes and litter. It takes effort to litter. I personally hate people who litter. I hate to step on rubbish! Eek..
Originally posted by Junyang700:Please read carefully the thread. I was told off for clearing my tables. =)
You should be totally ashamed of yourself for flaming people even before reading up facts yourself. Your ancestors ought to be ashamed of you too.
At the risk of lowering my intelligence to your pathetic level, I'll reply to you ONE last time.
You getting told off means that the auntie is lacking in social graces. If she feels that her livelihood is threatened by that, so be it; she's not thinking straight. Like I said, there are 1001 things for her to do besides clearing your food for you.
It does not give you the right to be lacking in social graces. It does NOT give you the right to just leave your food on your table.
Now answer this question, you doofus: by your reasoning, should we litter our estates indiscriminately so that the cleaning aunties will have work to do?
Pathetic. I think my IQ level has just dropped a few points by talking to you.
Originally posted by Junyang700:Please read carefully the thread. I was told off for clearing my tables. =)
You should be totally ashamed of yourself for flaming people even before reading up facts yourself. Your ancestors ought to be ashamed of you too.
you should still clear the goddamned tables...
it is common courtesy..
now.. try going to a place where people leave a mess.. you want to sit down also damned TL right? ask the old woman to come and clean?
writing all this shit down, took a lot of effort... just clear up your stuff.. put the stuff in the bin.. is it too hard?
btw.. i've heard the same goddamned argument from a lot of people whose characters are such that they'll never ever clean up unless yelled at by others... so they clean up and get scolded? it's BS... they'll never clean up in the first place...
they probably got scolded for NOT cleaning up and then in a fit of spite, went to make up some BS on the interweb to rationalise their lack of courtesy...
anyway, fast food restaurant? go read the signs... also what are the bins for? what are the tray liners for? what are the disposable wrappers and cups and everything for?
Originally posted by Junyang700:Like what Dondontan say... Selective clearing. Places like fastfood restaurants, do not clear. Unless there are no cleaners on duty or when the cleaner is too busy clearing, clear yourself. If auntie is slacking there... let her do the job. Dun cause her to lose her job.
Of course, nobody goes and litter. It takes effort to litter. I personally hate people who litter. I hate to step on rubbish! Eek..
It takes effort to litter?? ![]()
Originally posted by Junyang700:Like what Dondontan say... Selective clearing. Places like fastfood restaurants, do not clear. Unless there are no cleaners on duty or when the cleaner is too busy clearing, clear yourself. If auntie is slacking there... let her do the job. Dun cause her to lose her job.
Of course, nobody goes and litter. It takes effort to litter. I personally hate people who litter. I hate to step on rubbish! Eek..
So if you hate stepping on litter, would you instead enjoy sitting down to someone else's chicken bones or used napkins? Think of the person who's taking over your crummy ketchup-stained counter.
If it bothers you so much, what's stopping you from clearing your table and handing your tray to the janitor?
Originally posted by fudgester:I already said: wipe tables, mop the floor, wash the toilet, wash the windows, clean the kitchen, etc, etc.
ONE single task less, and the cleaners lose their jobs?
Like that you might as well ask everyone to litter their housing estates so that the cleaners will have more work to do.
Truly pathetic. I'm outta here. No use reducing my intelligence any further.
You forgot to add: "I rest my case, your Honour. And I move to request that junyang700's case be struck off the records."
Aiyo why the rage sia...... correct mah, those who dont mind jiu clear the table, selective cleaning mah... the job of the aunty is clear tables mah, if you got the heart to go the extra mile, just go clear it. If dont, also nvm also not littering purposely, anyway mac gonna pay us the cleaner salary for cleaning tables ? Then next time you want hokkien mee also go in fry yourself.
Nvm. I rest my case on this. =X
Some people only think they are right and start shooting even without seeing the overall picture.
To those narrow-minded people, please be more meticulous in your work elsewhere, your reading and understanding to the topic sucks.
Originally posted by Junyang700:Like what Dondontan say... Selective clearing. Places like fastfood restaurants, do not clear. Unless there are no cleaners on duty or when the cleaner is too busy clearing, clear yourself. If auntie is slacking there... let her do the job. Dun cause her to lose her job.
Of course, nobody goes and litter. It takes effort to litter. I personally hate people who litter. I hate to step on rubbish! Eek..
what the heck is selective clearing??
so I dont like the cleaner's face I just leave the plates there?
deciding that is simply arbitrary, if there's even a point to that.
Means if you got the heart to clear the table, go clear, but even if dont, also nvm wat. Like that really deserve flaming meh.
Originally posted by TTFU:Means if you got the heart to clear the table, go clear, but even if dont, also nvm wat. Like that really deserve flaming meh.
Yah lor. Meaningless to shout and scream over this issue. Seriously. No need to attack each other.
What I hate is the attitudes given by those who scream and shout others.
You can voice your opinion, but not scold others.
Make this a pleasant forum, not a unpleasant one.
The way these people are replying, though they are gracious to clear tables, lack basic manners and moral values. Seriously, they are more f*** up.
To conclude:
Those who
WANT CLEAR --> Go clear
DONT WANT CLEAR --> Walk off
WANT OTHERS TO CLEAR --> Help others clear
I actually like the help yourself to the chilli sauce concept. It's great for chilli lovers like me. As for clearing the tables, I don't mind doing that actually. My only gripe is why pay these workers such meagre pay? $3.50 / hr am i right? That's exploitation considering the huge profits they make for the billions of meals they sell every year
Originally posted by Rock^Star:I actually like the help yourself to the chilli sauce concept. It's great for chilli lovers like me. As for clearing the tables, I don't mind doing that actually. My only gripe is why pay these workers such meagre pay? $3.50 / hr am i right? That's exploitation considering the huge profits they make for the billions of meals they sell every year
Yup. Should be around $3.50. My secondary school days was like $2.80 per hour.
Chilli sauce concept, actually I personally do not take sauces.
But I have seen some children playing with the sauce, poking in to the holes of the sauce. Doesnt seem hygenic, as compared to prepacked sauces.
Originally posted by Junyang700:Yup. Should be around $3.50. My secondary school days was like $2.80 per hour.
Chilli sauce concept, actually I personally do not take sauces.
But I have seen some children playing with the sauce, poking in to the holes of the sauce. Doesnt seem hygenic, as compared to prepacked sauces.
It wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for the parents who don't leash their children when they can't control the rascals.
Originally posted by Junyang700:Yah lor. Meaningless to shout and scream over this issue. Seriously. No need to attack each other.
What I hate is the attitudes given by those who scream and shout others.
You can voice your opinion, but not scold others.
Make this a pleasant forum, not a unpleasant one.
The way these people are replying, though they are gracious to clear tables, lack basic manners and moral values. Seriously, they are more f*** up.
To conclude:
Those who
WANT CLEAR --> Go clear
DONT WANT CLEAR --> Walk off
WANT OTHERS TO CLEAR --> Help others clear
And who are you to make a judgment on anyone's character when only your actions have been judged? You could use some of your own advice and think before you post.
sometimes I feel very troublesome to clear up the tables.