What do you think of teenage couples making out/kissing...
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and i assume u downloaded?Originally posted by Ogbunwezeh:It look very freaky to see 2 kids hugging... Yucks! If u wanna know how it feel, juz download some illegal kids porno n u will know how it feels like...
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Again, this is Not abt eras or decades, tt's Not the point.
The point, is MODESTY, somethg which our young children r sadly lacking nowadays.
And as u rightly put it, these children r KIDS.
FeowFeowOriginally posted by ratinacage:i think u people shud ease up ya??u all act like we are still in the 70s???our country has progressed so much but what happened to our people??leave this poor kids alone, you have a choice to look away if it makes u fell uncomfy.why do u still keep on looking? -
do u know that the things u are wearing rite this moment would be consisdered immoral and un-modest and you will be arrested and people will be telling u that its is Not abt eras or decades, its about modesty!!!then they stone u to death.Originally posted by FeowFeow:Again, this is Not abt eras or decades, tt's Not the point.
The point, is MODESTY, somethg which our young children r sadly lacking nowadays.
And as u rightly put it, these children r KIDS.
FeowFeow
the world has changed,people need to change with the world. where do u think the kids learn such behaviour?to them, its alrite becos its what they see!!its happening around them,so u cannot blame them for behaving like us! -
If the whole world considered suicide a viable way of getting rid of problems. If nudist camps started to appear all over the place. Would you like to see children behaving in such a matter? In this world, theres no one size fit all. What may be acceptable to others may be highly unacceptable to somebody else.
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I think u've gone to the extreme, & will simply keep arguing tt it's alrite. Perhaps u're 1 of those who does it, & tt's ur right.
Let's agree to differ on issues of modesty & discipline. I prefer to be brought up well : )
FeowFeowOriginally posted by ratinacage:do u know that the things u are wearing rite this moment would be consisdered immoral and un-modest and you will be arrested and people will be telling u that its is Not abt eras or decades, its about modesty!!!then they stone u to death.
the world has changed,people need to change with the world. where do u think the kids learn such behaviour?to them, its alrite becos its what they see!!its happening around them,so u cannot blame them for behaving like us! -
are you implying that jux because they are being brought up in this way, what they did is justified? that they cannot be held responsible for their actions.Originally posted by ratinacage:do u know that the things u are wearing rite this moment would be consisdered immoral and un-modest and you will be arrested and people will be telling u that its is Not abt eras or decades, its about modesty!!!then they stone u to death.
the world has changed,people need to change with the world. where do u think the kids learn such behaviour?to them, its alrite becos its what they see!!its happening around them,so u cannot blame them for behaving like us!
do not forget that the decision to exhibit such a behaviour lies with them. sp as long as they chose the path, they have to bear whatever consequences arise along with it, and that includes public condemnation.
if everyone does things without deference to a higher code of morals, as with PDA, bt rather based on their own carnal desires, can you imagine what will the world come to? can you envision a society where paedophiles, abusers, go scot free, just because their actions are merely a reflection of their social backgrounds? these are just extreme cases and may not apply to the example of kissing, bt the principle behind it is the same. public display of affection is itself an outrage of modesty. if teenagers so young can commit such acts, it may be a precedence to further misdeeds when they are older...
if you adjust yourself according to the screwed up morals of the world, and choose to glorify them, then you are no better than a chameleon, bereft of your own set of principles and values. and you will suffer the inevitable consequence of getting your life messed up like those drug addicts and underworld gangsters... -
So are you implying that an adolescent have less of a right to behave the manner he or she chooses, as compared to an adult? Tell me, where do we actually draw the line as to what behaviour is acceptable for a certain age group and what is not? Kissing in public is not, as you put it, what about holding hands? Where do we actually draw the fine boundary? The rationale is simple. I do not see anything which entitles adults to more rights to public display of affection. If adults can do it, what actually prevents teenagers from committing the same act? That they are only a few years junior to their older counterparts? That they are still under their parents' custody, and thus, are not entitled to rights which would otherwise be possessed by them?Originally posted by devoid05:are you implying that jux because they are being brought up in this way, what they did is justified? that they cannot be held responsible for their actions.
do not forget that the decision to exhibit such a behaviour lies with them. sp as long as they chose the path, they have to bear whatever consequences arise along with it, and that includes public condemnation.
if everyone does things without deference to a higher code of morals, as with PDA, bt rather based on their own carnal desires, can you imagine what will the world come to? can you envision a society where paedophiles, abusers, go scot free, just because their actions are merely a reflection of their social backgrounds? these are just extreme cases and may not apply to the example of kissing, bt the principle behind it is the same. public display of affection is itself an outrage of modesty. if teenagers so young can commit such acts, it may be a precedence to further misdeeds when they are older...
if you adjust yourself according to the screwed up morals of the world, and choose to glorify them, then you are no better than a chameleon, bereft of your own set of principles and values. and you will suffer the inevitable consequence of getting your life messed up like those drug addicts and underworld gangsters... -
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i am not saying that adolescents have no right to behave in a manner as he or she chooses.Originally posted by RETARDED_MORON:So are you implying that an adolescent have less of a right to behave the manner he or she chooses, as compared to an adult? Tell me, where do we actually draw the line as to what behaviour is acceptable for a certain age group and what is not? Kissing in public is not, as you put it, what about holding hands? Where do we actually draw the fine boundary? The rationale is simple. I do not see anything which entitles adults to more rights to public display of affection. If adults can do it, what actually prevents teenagers from committing the same act? That they are only a few years junior to their older counterparts? That they are still under their parents' custody, and thus, are not entitled to rights which would otherwise be possessed by them?
adults or adolescents, they all have the right to make their own decisions, whatever they may be. but what i am saying here is that they gotta bear the consequences of the paths they have chosen. if adults engage in PDA, they jolly well accept the public condemnation that comes along with it. -
my gf likes to do that
but i feel very paiseh cuz like everyone will be staring at us
so i always turn away
den she
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If you are sensible, don't do such things. i'm 14, i do have a girlfriend and seriously, dun do these stuff, it's EWW. Stupid. It's not art, it's not freedom, it's stupid.
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Justify yourself.Originally posted by 14_boy:If you are sensible, don't do such things. i'm 14, i do have a girlfriend and seriously, dun do these stuff, it's EWW. Stupid. It's not art, it's not freedom, it's stupid. -
Justify as in what,Originally posted by RETARDED_MORON:Justify yourself.
What do you mean?
RETARDED_MORON?
Dun mean to be rude but your nick is really RETARDED_MORON.
And by what you say i really see why you chose such a specific nickname which really suits your persona. and if you dunno how to use the computer well, here's a metaphor: Computers are the vehicles of tomorrow. Throw your com away. But remeber, you can't stop loving... even yourself.
God is love. -
Originally posted by 14_boy:
What the hell? What is wrong with you!? When I asked you to justify yourself, I just meant "back up your stand with some basic reasoning". Nobody is picking up an argument with you, my man! You really have to learn to chill because I certainly did not meant anything personal. Though you have indeed took the liberty to ridicule my self-proclaimed nickname. Good job son.
Justify as in what,
What do you mean?
RETARDED_MORON?
Dun mean to be rude but your nick is really RETARDED_MORON.
And by what you say i really see why you chose such a specific nickname which really suits your persona. and if you dunno how to use the computer well, here's a metaphor: Computers are the vehicles of tomorrow. Throw your com away. But remeber, you can't stop loving... even yourself.
[b]God is love.[/b]
And I am not much older here, but at least I take the extra mile to be mature and not JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS, or seize opportunities to humiliate others with cheap shots. Chances are you still would not get it, I am only 15-years-old this year. -
What you don't see, MR. RETARDED_MORON is that it's not justifiable for a 14 or let's say 10year old girl to kiss his/her significant other because they are too young to make decisions for themselves. Adults do that because, they are old enough. and i'm sure that for a teenage girl to make big choices is stupid.Originally posted by RETARDED_MORON:So are you implying that an adolescent have less of a right to behave the manner he or she chooses, as compared to an adult? Tell me, where do we actually draw the line as to what behaviour is acceptable for a certain age group and what is not? Kissing in public is not, as you put it, what about holding hands? Where do we actually draw the fine boundary? The rationale is simple. I do not see anything which entitles adults to more rights to public display of affection. If adults can do it, what actually prevents teenagers from committing the same act? That they are only a few years junior to their older counterparts? That they are still under their parents' custody, and thus, are not entitled to rights which would otherwise be possessed by them?
We draw the line when it goes too far. you see how sex actually takes place.
Boy meets girl,
Boy likes girl,
Girl likes boy,
Boy Girl goes out,
Boy kisses Girl,
Girls Kisses boy,
Then you know what happens...
By preventing Boy Kissing Girl, Inadverteredly Prevents Sex. Meaning Cutting down the percentage of childhood pregnancies. And i feel that until a boy becomes a man [21years old] or Girl becomes women [20 years old] it's safer to keep the boys from the girls and girls from the boys and restrict them to holding hands.
QUESTION: If adults can do it, what actually prevents teenagers from committing the same act?
ANSWER: How would you like to see your children kissing their boy/girlfriends infront of a crowd in the public? or infront of you? I don't think that's comfortable or justifiable behavior. As a parent, you should tell your children that it's stupid behavior. does a light buld light up now?
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OK MY MISTAKE THERE..... REALLY SORRY. MEANT NO OFFENCES, HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND.Originally posted by RETARDED_MORON:What the hell? What is wrong with you!? When I asked you to justify yourself, I just meant "back up your stand with some basic reasoning". Nobody is picking up an argument with you, my man! You really have to learn to chill because I certainly did not meant anything personal. Though you have indeed took the liberty to ridicule my self-proclaimed nickname. Good job son.
And I am not much older here, but at least I take the extra mile to be mature and not JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS, or seize opportunities to humiliate others with cheap shots. Chances are you still would not get it, I am only 15-years-old this year.
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Oh, so what you are saying here is since they are beyond a certain age, that immediately robs them of their rights of making decisions for themselves? Okay, let us assume that you are right (for the sake of the argument) and they really are not entitled to said rights, then who is to make decisions for them when it comes to subjects like these? You and your self-righteous mind? Their aged parents? Our own government? You are obviously losing the entire point. To spoonfeed it to you, they actually DO have a say in what they choose to display and exhibit in public, even if it offends you deeply; regardless of whether the law permits them to do so or not. The factors stated are all immaterial.Originally posted by 14_boy:What you don't see, MR. RETARDED_MORON is that it's not justifiable for a 14 or let's say 10year old girl to kiss his/her significant other because they are too young to make decisions for themselves. Adults do that because, they are old enough. and i'm sure that for a teenage girl to make big choices is stupid.
What annoys me is the sheer narrow-mindedness of the society today. Whenever a controversial topic like this is tossed into discussion, you will definitely hear a certain group of people clinging on adamantly to our ambiguously reasonable set of eastern values. I would not care THAT much if they were to keep their conservative opinions and ideas of modesty to themselves, but in reality, they try to impose their skewed perspective of ethics upon our youths. Please. Cut them some slack. -
yeah i agree. it may not be visually pleasing to some to see a bunch of kids make out... but they are kids... still learning the ways of the world.. everyone goes through the same patch... who the hell thinks "oh i'm still young and innocent...." when they were a teenager.. they were all eager to grow up and think they're grown up. it's like a rite of passage.. just let them be.Originally posted by RETARDED_MORON:Oh, so what you are saying here is since they are beyond a certain age, that immediately robs them of their rights of making decisions for themselves? Okay, let us assume that you are right (for the sake of the argument) and they really are not entitled to said rights, then who is to make decisions for them when it comes to subjects like these? You and your self-righteous mind? Their aged parents? Our own government? You are obviously losing the entire point. To spoonfeed it to you, they actually DO have a say in what they choose to display and exhibit in public, even if it offends you deeply; regardless of whether the law permits them to do so or not. The factors stated are all immaterial.
What annoys me is the sheer narrow-mindedness of the society today. Whenever a controversial topic like this is tossed into discussion, you will definitely hear a certain group of people clinging on adamantly to our ambiguously reasonable set of eastern values. I would not care THAT much if they were to keep their conservative opinions and ideas of modesty to themselves, but in reality, they try to impose their skewed perspective of ethics upon our youths. Please. Cut them some slack. -
i agree totallyOriginally posted by 14_boy:What you don't see, MR. RETARDED_MORON is that it's not justifiable for a 14 or let's say 10year old girl to kiss his/her significant other because they are too young to make decisions for themselves. Adults do that because, they are old enough. and i'm sure that for a teenage girl to make big choices is stupid.
a 14 year old has no right to make any decision for demselves
so did your empress mama allow you to use de comp
or she fell asleep after feeding you milk den you secretly come online
on a serious note, go squat at a corner and shove your finger up your arse and stop being a nuisance already -
ok...Originally posted by killsardine:i agree totally
a 14 year old has no right to make any decision for demselves
so did your empress mama allow you to use de comp
or she fell asleep after feeding you milk den you secretly come online
on a serious note, go squat at a corner and shove your finger up your arse and stop being a nuisance already -
well it's lyk..petting no harm de mahx..not even heavy ones.most 14 yearolds should know where to drawthe line..lyk me,no matter how high my sex drive is (lol), i know that having sexual intercourse at this age is suicide mahx..
we're not dumb.
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Well... i didn't expect this topic to have such a serious twist in views...
But for me, i think its okay, so long they don't start caressing each other in the trains. Patting on the ass, slight peck on cheeks, hugging, is all acceptable, but caressing ar...
I have an eastern mentality i guess. I feel uncomfortable at seeing something that should be done in private, done openly. I mean, i don't even know what they're thinking.
If they want to make everyone jealous, then they've succeeded(to some extent anyway), if they're just such exhibitionists, then what can we do?
Dang i'm tired today. Don't even know where my thoughts are going =_="
But i have an experience to share, without giving too many details, this is what happened.
A couple of years back, i actually saw a malay couple copulating on the bus. It was a double-decked bus, and they went right to the end, half-undressed, and the girl just stood up and sat down on the guy.
I told my friend about it, and we both looked over. The girl looked at us, then ignored us.
I guess, sometimes, another reason why people do it in public is because, people just can't wait til they reach the safe places of their house to make out. The desire to touch and love is too great. -
yup, absolutely true... know the limitsOriginally posted by o(O.o)o:well it's lyk..petting no harm de mahx..not even heavy ones.most 14 yearolds should know where to drawthe line..lyk me,no matter how high my sex drive is (lol), i know that having sexual intercourse at this age is suicide mahx..
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yeah well, on the bus.. i only dare to lyk.. kiss abit.. put my arm around her..etc.. all the simple stuff that brings so much warmth.. the more extreme parts lyk caressing..bj's, whatever..should be kept to private places..Originally posted by RETARDED_MORON:yup, absolutely true... know the limits
Staircase landings are fine, but not those in shopping hotspots like Bugis, Suntec.. most likely we'll get caught.. perhaps HDB blocks..etc.. more 'ulu' places are preferable..yup?