SIM
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UOL is very slack.... but it's harder to get honours and good grades (and sometimes even pass) unless you don't slack like the rest....it's 100% weightage and the cost of failing a module is VERY high... esp when the value of pounds increase every year... heard it's 1:3 now... It's either a pass or a fail.. unlike RMIT when projects and tests can pull you through even when you don't do well for the exams... but you'll be very busy...have to attend school like 4 days a week, and sometimes even night classes I heard...Originally posted by ^reality:Hey, i've applied to SIM, but now still deciding between UOL and RMIT. i noe UOL's has only 1 exam 1 sem, and its 100% weightage. is the exam very tough?? how's the lecture schedules?
For UOL if you are lucky you can pack ur schedule to a 2 day week...but very unlikely bah.. usually people go to school 3 to 4 times a week...12 hours of lectures a week.. 3 hrs per module per week.. 4 modules a year.. and it comes with consultations once in a while...they don't really bother about attendence...whether u wanna go sch anot it's up to you... it's dependent your own initiative ...
Slackers like me always play the skipping game... then study 3 days before exams.. hahah will I pass anot? Stay tune..... LOL
Anywayz, good luck to the peepz who are still taking the UOL exams.. esp tomorrow's FR paper.. please let it be EZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!
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but RMIT got lotsa presentations lar.. and i sucks at presentations... it might just pull down my marks too... between marketing and BA, which 1 is actually easier to do?
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I think it is wasting time n money to study in SIm bcos i spent 16K got a degree n i came out nobody employ, i use my degree i cant get a job but if i use my diploma i can get a job, or may be it is my age, i am over 40, hard 2 find jobOriginally posted by pat33:You are partly right and partly wrong.
1) SIM has two arms. One arm, mainly business courses with RMIT, UOL etc. These courses are mainly targetting at fresh school leavers, full-time students, both local and foreigners. I said mainly because there are also part timers - smaller.
2) The other arm, mainly targetting at the working adult. The more popular courses are comp sc, psychology, engr, nursing etc. The universities are the Open uni - uk, Sydney uni etc. These courses run in the evening part time.
3) Each prog has its own entry requirements. For example, if you are doing engr, the entry requirements will be different from comp sc. The entry requirements for many prog, I would say, are lower than say NUS or NTU. But you have to bear in mind that their students (the part timers) are not fresh school leavers. These students are mature working adults with working experience.
4) You can suka suka come in if you have their basic entry requirements. The problem I saw is like that- some (but many) students thought part time means easy, easy will do. They want degree but are not willing to work hard. From my experience, SIM do have certain standard which they want to maintain. Some of my super good classmates (part timers) sweat for 8 years before they got their good honour degree (no short cut), some just play, play. After some time, they just disappeared - waste money never mind but also waste time. -
UOl really very slack..
or rather..the classes are very well spread..u still have to go back to school during november and december..
consultations are not compulsory unless the lecturers mentioned
by far i think okie lah..34 marks to pass liao..should not be a problem if u just wan a degree..
UOL more exp than RMIT..coz of the pound now..
and if i not wrong..RMIT is 1 time payment each year or something
but UOL must keep paying now and then..membership..revision..exam and etc..den must go until RELC apply and etc.. -
I think it is wasting time n money to study in SIm bcos i spent 16K got a degree n i came out nobody employ, i use my degree i cant get a job but if i use my diploma i can get a job, or may be it is my age, i am over 40, hard 2 find job
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actually both BA and marketing need a lot of presentations..Originally posted by ^reality:but RMIT got lotsa presentations lar.. and i sucks at presentations... it might just pull down my marks too... between marketing and BA, which 1 is actually easier to do?
if you are the more outgoing one, perhaps marketing is more u
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i see... but i thought UOL's BA doesn't have presentation? and marks only depend on the exams. my reason against chosing RMIT is i'm not out-going enough, and the reason against chosing UOL is that i'm too slack, might not make it in the exams... so now i've got to see which is the greater evil huh...
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oh i was talking abt RMIT BA and Marketing
eh UOL BA no presentations? hmm, but having a good presentation skills is part and parcel of the business world... -
Does anyone know about RMIT's Accouting degree course? How's it like? Presentations? Exams? I kinda applied for it... starting in aug, just need some opinions about it... really appreciate. thanks
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Better than nothing!Originally posted by pat33:Anyone says study = job? I think no one says so.
Does NO CERT NO JOB sounds nicer to you then? -
Well.. alot of my friends, infact most of them grad and started working in less than a month.. with banks and accounting firms.. of coz as freshies they start from scratch...
However, there's still a minority who's really that suay being jobless for so long after graduation... maybe it's their luck.. or perhaps some other factors..
Well..besides getting a job with that cert... i am sure people learn more stuffz after that 3 year course right? At least you're better than an empty vessel... -
no matter wat, having a cert still beats not having any at all. just wondering, what helped you guys who are in SIM choose between UOL and RMIT?
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UOL >>Originally posted by ^reality:no matter wat, having a cert still beats not having any at all. just wondering, what helped you guys who are in SIM choose between UOL and RMIT?
RMIT>> Projects, Assignments,Tests, Exams, Presentations (Having a very
busy schedule)
Which is quite similar to what the local unis are doing... Gotta put in
more effort, however it's easier to pass coz exams do not have 100%
weightage, if marks from your daily will may help to pull you through
the finals.
UOL>> Lectures& consultations(not compulsory) all the way till the end of the
year which ends with an exam. (12hours a week) In other words, alot
slackier..no one forces you to study..gotta strive on ur own..the
exams's 100% weightage..fail and u'll have to repeat the module.
RMIT's more expensive than UOL.
UOL's slackier than RMIT.
If you prefer a slackier course...choose UOL
Both are still degrees... both are as good -
rmit more expensive den UOL meh
i always tht UOL more expensive..coz of the exchange rate -
RMIT The total fees in SDG -> S$29,620.50Originally posted by BufPuf:rmit more expensive den UOL meh
i always tht UOL more expensive..coz of the exchange rate
Total fee estimated to be S$22,800 for 12 units/three years
It's around 7k difference... Even if UK's Exchange rate flucuates and increases... the difference won't be as huge as $7K right (If it does.. i think i'll go speculate in pounds now..)? Aussie's exchange rate is not stagnant either... so eventually... UOL will still be cheaper....
Anywayz i got the numbers from the SIM website, you can go have a look yourself -
Do you know what makes people get kick out of UOL and eh is it any diploma from any poly can applied into any SIM courses or u have to have a specified like business diploma for business degress?
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Any diploma from any local poly will do...Originally posted by mapleleaf:Do you know what makes people get kick out of UOL and eh is it any diploma from any poly can applied into any SIM courses or u have to have a specified like business diploma for business degress?
UOL usually don't kick people outta their school.. i haven't heard of any of such cases yet... unless that fella keeps on failing his exams...I heard there are limited attempts to each paper... but definately more than 3.. -
Can also take courses from OUC (Open University)
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but i thought UOL's school fees is not inclusive of exam fees, subsequent years registeration fees etc? but RMIT's is already inclusive of all that? so if u add up, UOL's only slightly cheaper than RMIT?
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The limit is 3...Once you fail to clear the Unit on your 3rd (serious) attempt, you cannot proceed with your degree...(i.e. change to another course which does not have this subject as a pre-requisite)Originally posted by silv3rgal:Any diploma from any local poly will do...
UOL usually don't kick people outta their school.. i haven't heard of any of such cases yet... unless that fella keeps on failing his exams...I heard there are limited attempts to each paper... but definately more than 3..
A common subject that people affect a number of people's ascension would be Sociology (needed for Organisation Theory).. -
sociology is not that bad
initially u may find it quite hard to understand..but as long as u pay attention..read the required readings..shd be not be a problem..
this year paper i find it quite okie..probably becoz our lecturer ask us to do this assignment..and it comes out in the exam..
but this year..sociology and elements of accounts..changing syllabus liao..so not sure abt the standard.. -
Hmm...Dr. Wong, you say? Mr Sunny Goh was my lecturer for my second attempt at Soci last year and the prevailing OT lecturer for this AY..
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We have to pay $4200 to SIM for their classes and stuff...and around a thousand to UOL for registration/continuation registration each year.. and finally.. the Exam fees which varies with the number of subjects you take... it's around $1.7K if i am not wriong... 400 plus SGD for a subject..and worse still..that RELC swallows alot of admin fee when you register exams with them..(and u have no choice too)....Originally posted by ^reality:but i thought UOL's school fees is not inclusive of exam fees, subsequent years registeration fees etc? but RMIT's is already inclusive of all that? so if u add up, UOL's only slightly cheaper than RMIT?
And times flies man...after a few months of lectures.. they'll ask you to pay for exam fees... and later.. when you proceed to the next year.. they'll ask you to pay again... Xim Tia siaz... Heng I gonna grad liao... i'm not going to let them earn anymore!!!! Hee.... -
Anyone kena taught by bernard Ong b4? For Stats1 / 2?
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I think UOL more "xiong" wor ... esp if u studying for last min for ur yrly exam. It's can be a slow torturing process.Originally posted by silv3rgal:UOL >>
RMIT>> Projects, Assignments,Tests, Exams, Presentations (Having a very
busy schedule)
Which is quite similar to what the local unis are doing... Gotta put in
more effort, however it's easier to pass coz exams do not have 100%
weightage, if marks from your daily will may help to pull you through
the finals.
UOL>> Lectures& consultations(not compulsory) all the way till the end of the
year which ends with an exam. (12hours a week) In other words, alot
slackier..no one forces you to study..gotta strive on ur own..the
exams's 100% weightage..fail and u'll have to repeat the module.
RMIT's more expensive than UOL.
UOL's slackier than RMIT.
If you prefer a slackier course...choose UOL
Both are still degrees... both are as good
I will say choose UOL if u think u r the person who crap & write very well. Sure can bluff ur way through.