SIM – RMIT BBBA
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I differ in ur comments above saying that "person to flew there is rich enough to go."Originally posted by M©+square:Hmm...there are also people who fly all the way to Oz to study in Curtin. However it doesn't mean anything.
Curtin in my time, is known to be the most despised Uni in terms of discipline and modules.
My point: People who flys to the home site of the Uni doesn't speak much about the school. It tells me that the person to flew there is rich enough to go. Period.
Cheers!
There are employers that I HAD been to that expects the student to have been either a full-time or part-time student ON CAMPUS in Australia/whichever overseas university, rather than distance learning.
Those are mainly huge organizations that actually look into this. And those certs and transcripts that students who study distance learning, some actually can tell the employer whether you were studying on campus or not. Or whether u were studying full-time. -
I should add that RMIT is a good uni, as far as BBBA is concerned I'm not too sure. On campus learning is definitely a big booster in terms of CV, there is a stigma (and it's true) that distant learning isn't half as effective or efficient. I'll say for sure that HR @ Big4 don't take too kindly to any distant learning courses, I have a friend who's from UQ on site finance and he landed a job as a team leader in portfolio mngment (big $$$); another friend of mine who was very insistent that distance or not employers couldn't tell, did a LSE course back home and is still unemployed as we speak, has been for past few months now. If you can, go overseas, it's a good experience and will increase your sellability, even more so if it's a top uni, if not, I'd rather you aim to go into SMU or SIM, which I feel are equally good unis when compared to overseas business schools. I'll go to the extent of saying that they are better than NUS/NTU's business schools for sure, and you definitely will have a future provided you play your cards.
Alot of people here feel that paper qualifications do matter, and I'll say for sure that they do, they increase the chances of landing you that interview, and that's it. Once inside, it's up to you to prove yourself. Employers look for experience and past results. If you put a Monash Biz grad & RMIT Biz grad together, no doubt the Monash Biz grad will get the interview, but if the RMIT Biz grad has good experience, they'll be on equal standing, or the RMIT grad will have the upperhand. Either way they'll probably call both anyway, so I'll just say for sure now, that don't worry too much about your degree, think more about your skills, experience, past results, and what you can bring to the table that will have a company hire you.
Paper qualifications matter when you're starting out to land that interview, beyond that, not really. What is more important is you don't f uck up when you're working, then, even if you're from harvard, no one will give 2 sh its.
Good luck and all the best
Supafatty -
Employers look for experience and past results. If you put a Monash Biz grad & RMIT Biz grad together, no doubt the Monash Biz grad will get the interview, but if the RMIT Biz grad has good experience, they'll be on equal standing, or the RMIT grad will have the upperhand. Either way they'll probably call both anyway, so I'll just say for sure now, that don't worry too much about your degree, think more about your skills, experience, past results, and what you can bring to the table that will have a company hire you.
Yeahz I totally agree on this! -
Now we are comparing Monash Biz and RMIT Biz objectively.Originally posted by supafatty:I should add that RMIT is a good uni, as far as BBBA is concerned I'm not too sure. On campus learning is definitely a big booster in terms of CV, there is a stigma (and it's true) that distant learning isn't half as effective or efficient. I'll say for sure that HR @ Big4 don't take too kindly to any distant learning courses, I have a friend who's from UQ on site finance and he landed a job as a team leader in portfolio mngment (big $$$); another friend of mine who was very insistent that distance or not employers couldn't tell, did a LSE course back home and is still unemployed as we speak, has been for past few months now. If you can, go overseas, it's a good experience and will increase your sellability, even more so if it's a top uni, if not, I'd rather you aim to go into SMU or SIM, which I feel are equally good unis when compared to overseas business schools. I'll go to the extent of saying that they are better than NUS/NTU's business schools for sure, and you definitely will have a future provided you play your cards.
Alot of people here feel that paper qualifications do matter, and I'll say for sure that they do, they increase the chances of landing you that interview, and that's it. Once inside, it's up to you to prove yourself. Employers look for experience and past results. If you put a Monash Biz grad & RMIT Biz grad together, no doubt the Monash Biz grad will get the interview, but if the RMIT Biz grad has good experience, they'll be on equal standing, or the RMIT grad will have the upperhand. Either way they'll probably call both anyway, so I'll just say for sure now, that don't worry too much about your degree, think more about your skills, experience, past results, and what you can bring to the table that will have a company hire you.
Paper qualifications matter when you're starting out to land that interview, beyond that, not really. What is more important is you don't f uck up when you're working, then, even if you're from harvard, no one will give 2 sh its.
Good luck and all the best
Supafatty
When placing two cert on the balancing scale. It is obvious.
On other experiences and graduate's own credentials, needless to say. Definately a huge offer to the company. -
I agree. Well my quote was only a part of what i was going to say.Originally posted by icebaby0:I differ in ur comments above saying that "person to flew there is rich enough to go."
There are employers that I HAD been to that expects the student to have been either a full-time or part-time student ON CAMPUS in Australia/whichever overseas university, rather than distance learning.
Those are mainly huge organizations that actually look into this. And those certs and transcripts that students who study distance learning, some actually can tell the employer whether you were studying on campus or not. Or whether u were studying full-time.
Was actually targetting the point that going to home site doesn't neccessarily meant the AUST Uni has it's status to draw students there. -
Oh yah...let's not forget the fact that in Australia there are "different" campus. Different campus = different "grading"Originally posted by M©+square:Now we are comparing Monash Biz and RMIT Biz objectively.
When placing two cert on the balancing scale. It is obvious.
On other experiences and graduate's own credentials, needless to say. Definately a huge offer to the company.
Well, alot depends on the company and also the HR. If HR and company is NOT particular, employees are safe. -
Thanx for the detailed advices supafatty...
Agreed largely with what u said... I think there is a significant diff b/w attending on-campus (be it local or oversea uni) and getting a degree via distance learning
Whilst some of my peers seemed to firmly believe that most employees can't tell the diff, i guess pursuing a degree is not only abt getting the cert. The quality of education if u attend a gd campus--- networking with frens, learning from good teachers is more essential.
And of course, getting the cert is only the 1st step... what happens beyond that depends on many other factors -
Yeah me did that.. over and done with next.Originally posted by adistar13:anyone has any opinions to share on RMIT'S ACCOUNTING degree course? -
just to share my thoughts..
in Uk.. there used to be many polytechnics and they were converted to uni..results..bad quality.. RMIT if i am not wrong used to be a poly..then convert to uni status..ok use civil service as a bench mark..
civil service does not recognise RMIT y i said so.. cos i got a friend working as a teacher, she got a BA from RMIT yet she was placed on division 2 scale (meaning poly /A level salary scale)..reason only recognised degrees are placed on division 1 payscale..aka the 3 unis..
for pondering -
Originally posted by tomhunk:
Hello? RMIT is an Aussie uni.. not from UK
just to share my thoughts..
[b]in Uk.. there used to be many polytechnics and they were converted to uni..results..bad quality.. RMIT if i am not wrong used to be a poly..then convert to uni status..ok use civil service as a bench mark..
civil service does not recognise RMIT y i said so.. cos i got a friend working as a teacher, she got a BA from RMIT yet she was placed on division 2 scale (meaning poly /A level salary scale)..reason only recognised degrees are placed on division 1 payscale..aka the 3 unis..
for pondering[/b]
Just for ur info.. RMIT = Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology
And.. RMIT was never a polytechnic.. it started as a college..and it's one of the leading unis in Aussie..
You can check their website out...
Anywayz about the payscale thingy.. issit true or did you just based it on your assumption that RMIT was a converted uni? -
Hmm, about the MOE thing, we can assume that just because MOE doesnt recognise RMIT means the whole civil service wont.
maybe your friend did a degree not related to the job scope, thats why
I have many friends. doing external degrees at the SIM-OUC open university, who are actually TEACHERS. MOE actually accredits the SIM-OUC degree. and will consider placing teachers on div 1 scale if he/she is capable.
definately i would agree that overseas degrees will lose out to the GOVT degrees when it comes to employment in the civil service aka GOVT sector. it will be a mockery if the govt doesnt employ thier own breed of graduates.
for people like me, the private sector is the way to go. im not dissing the govt sector, both sectors have its good and bad points. i mean, we got to look on the bright side of life. already cannot get a place in local uni, so might as well try something else. work sincerely and dedicately.