7 confirmed blasts in London.
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I hope Singapore tone down some of its clearly Anglo-Saxon leaning in its international geo-politics. By all means, do what is neccessary for Singapore's own national self-interest, but don't be high profile about it.
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Put it this way, we will not bend over to let them shaft us.And realpolitik or not, I'd like to think that we are a nation who has made enough pals on both sides.Originally posted by Li Ka Shing:I hope Singapore tone down some of its clearly Anglo-Saxon leaning in its international geo-politics. By all means, do what is neccessary for Singapore's own national self-interest, but don't be high profile about it.
But if the shit hits the fan, I feel there are lots of trigger happy, bloodthirsty ppl here who would love to cap some raghead dung. -
Some folks here are saying it's time to bring back the ancient punishment of 'hanging, drawing and quartering'.
Once they capture the terrorist, he should be dragged through the streets of London by a horse till his back is bloody and raw, then hanged till almost dead, then cut down semi-conscious, cut open his belly and pull out his intestines to burn in front of him, then cut out his genitals and burn in the usual way...let him slowly die of pain and blood loss, before finally cut off his head and chop his body into 4 parts to scatter at the four corners of the country.
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News has moderated it to 4 blasts instead of 7.
Unconfirmed reports of police finding 2 more unexploded bombs.
Seriously, i find these attacks the most cowardly of all. Terrorists are by far the biggest cowards of the 21st century by resorting to the mass murdering of civilians. I wonder what they're thinking. They get no sympathy for targeting unarmed people.
And that rumour about murdering the Egyptian Envoy, i hope it's not true. Then again, the backlash will be to swing Egypt's support against Muslim extremists.
One by one, they will lose the support and sympathy of all muslims around the world.
I sincerely hope they get sold out by their own people one day. Karma as a way of coming round. -
Interesting... are the folks who suggested the above Japanese?Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Some folks here are saying it's time to bring back the ancient punishment of 'hanging, drawing and quartering'.
Once they capture the terrorist, he should be dragged through the streets of London by a horse till his back is bloody and raw, then hanged till almost dead, then cut down semi-conscious, cut open his belly and pull out his intestines to burn in front of him, then cut out his genitals and burn in the usual way...let him slowly die of pain and blood loss, before finally cut off his head and chop his body into 4 parts to scatter at the four corners of the country.
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SOmeone @ Military Nuts said France won't stoop so low as that. ANyway, Al-Qaeda has claimed that blasts were their handiwork. I think all those countries with troops in Iraq better start bringing them home.Originally posted by HENG@:we WERE joking that its the French. They not happy we got the 2012 olympics -
The people who claimed it not necessarily did itOriginally posted by SBS9611D:SOmeone @ Military Nuts said France won't stoop so low as that. ANyway, Al-Qaeda has claimed that blasts were their handiwork. I think all those countries with troops in Iraq better start bringing them home.
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yeah, i STILL think it is the damn frenchys....Originally posted by deathscythe99:The people who claimed it not necessarily did it -
I think it's a splinter pseudo Islamo-facist group that claimed the name of Al Qaeda for fame and recognition.
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WOW!~!!!Originally posted by DriftingGuy:In case u didnt notice, i posted exactly the same time that u did... U dont need a fortune teller to realise that
zhen chong ming! -
Hamas actually condemned the bombings..hmm shady bunch these people are...
Hamas also condemned the bombings. "Targeting civilians' lives and their means of transportation is denounced and rejected," Moussa Abu Marzouk, deputy chief of the group's political bureau said Thursday in Damascus.
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Seems like Hamas is being a 2-headed snake. They were responsible for many attacks on buses in West Jerusalem, but spoke out against the London blasts.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Hamas actually condemned the bombings..hmm shady bunch these people are...
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Friday July 8, 11:31 AM
Bus 'Suicide Bomber' Spotted By Passengers
Survivors of the bomb blast on London's Tavistock Square have told how they saw a "suicide bomber" on board.The packed Number 30 bus was ripped apart by the explosion at 9.47am.Richard Jones, who was travelling on the bus, said he is convinced he saw a bomber setting a device.
The 61-year-old told The Sun: "I noticed him as he looked nervous. He was continually diving into his bag, rummaging round and looking in it."
Seconds after Mr Jones stepped off the bus, it exploded with the "bomber" still on board.
Terence Mutasa, 27, a staff nurse at University College hospital, told The Sun: "I treated two girls in their 20s who were involved in the bus bomb.
"They were saying some guy came and sat down and that he exploded."
He added: "They said the guy just sat down and the explosion happened. They thought it was a suicide bomber."
Joely Ward, 36, was walking alongside the bus when it exploded. She told the Daily Mirror: "There was a huge bang and a pile of glass flew over my head. As I looked down there was a mound of flesh at my feet.
"I did not even register what it was, and then I saw a hand sticking out of it. It was a torso at my feet. It was blown apart."
A student who was near the explosion and helped medics at the scene said she saw "seven people obviously dead".
"There were so many bodies," another witness said.
Stephanie Riak Akuei told The Sun: "There was a lot of body parts and human debris. There were people trapped on the bus."
"At first there was an eerie quiet and a very profuse smell of blood."
She added: "I think there were at least 20 people on the bus. At least five were beyond recognition and we covered them up with blankets."
Other passengers spoke of people remaining in their seats with limbs and body parts missing.
One man was pulled out with bones sticking out of his flesh and chunks ripped out of his skin.
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ru one of them?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Put it this way, we will not bend over to let them shaft us.And realpolitik or not, I'd like to think that we are a nation who has made enough pals on both sides.
But if the shit hits the fan, I feel there are lots of trigger happy, bloodthirsty ppl here who would love to cap some raghead dung. -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimesOriginally posted by BillyBong:News has moderated it to 4 blasts instead of 7.
Unconfirmed reports of police finding 2 more unexploded bombs.
Seriously, i find these attacks the most cowardly of all. Terrorists are by far the biggest cowards of the 21st century by resorting to the mass murdering of civilians. I wonder what they're thinking. They get no sympathy for targeting unarmed people.
And that rumour about murdering the Egyptian Envoy, i hope it's not true. Then again, the backlash will be to swing Egypt's support against Muslim extremists.
One by one, they will lose the support and sympathy of all muslims around the world.
I sincerely hope they get sold out by their own people one day. Karma as a way of coming round.
Many war crimes occurred during the period of Japanese imperialism from the late 19th to mid-20th centuries.
In China during 1937–45, there are said to have been 8.4 million "non-military casualties", not including civilians killed accidentally during battle. (See Chinese Casualties in the Sino-Japanese War.) The most infamous incident during this period was the Nanjing Massacre, when the Japanese army massacred more than 100,000 civilians — some accounts say 300,000.
Military personnel from the Empire of Japan were accused — and in many cases were later convicted — of conducting a series of human rights abuses against civilians and prisoners of war (POWs) throughout east Asia and the western Pacific. These events reached their height during the Sino-Japanese War of 1937–45 and the Pacific War of 1941-45.
Historians and the governments of many countries officially hold the Japanese military, namely the Imperial Japanese Army (especially the military police, or Kempeitai) and the Imperial Japanese Navy, responsible for the deaths of many millions of civilians and prisoners of war (POWs) during the early 20th century.
These events are often compared to similar suffering imposed by Nazi Germany during 1933–45. The historian Chalmers Johnson has written that:
It may be pointless to try to establish which World War Two Axis aggressor, Germany or Japan, was the more brutal to the peoples it victimised. The Germans killed six million Jews and 20 million Russians; the Japanese slaughtered as many as 30 million Filipinos, Malays, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Indonesians and Burmese, at least 23 million of them ethnic Chinese. Both nations looted the countries they conquered on a monumental scale, though Japan plundered more, over a longer period, than the Nazis. Both conquerors enslaved millions and exploited them as forced labourers — and, in the case of the Japanese, as prostitutes for front-line troops. If you were a Nazi prisoner of war from Britain, America, Australia, New Zealand or Canada (but not Russia) you faced a 4 per cent chance of not surviving the war; [by comparison] the death rate for Allied POWs held by the Japanese was nearly 30 per cent.[1]
The Japanese military's use of forced labour, by Asian civilians and POWs also caused many deaths — more than 100,000 in the case of the Burma Railway.
Deaths caused by the diversion of resources to the Japanese military in occupied countries are also regarded as war crimes by many people. Millions of civilians in South East Asia, a major rice-growing region, died during a preventable famine in 1944–45.
Some sources claim the Japanese military was responsible for the deaths of more than 20 million non-combatants during 1937–45, although all such figures are controversial.
In the early 21st century, some activists, both inside and outside Japan, have attempted to reinterpret Japanese imperialism. For example, the views of a South Korean, Ji Man-Won, have caused controversy in Korea and further abroad. Ji has praised Japan for "modernising" Korea, and has said of women forced to become sex slaves: "most of the old women claiming to be former comfort women, or sex slaves to the Japanese military during World War II, are fakes." In Korea, such views are widely regarded as being offensive, libellous of the women concerned, and as representing historical revisionism. [2]
Another complicating matter is that some people from Asian and Pacific countries invaded by Japan collaborated with the Japanese military, or even served in it, for a wide variety of reasons, such as economic hardship, coercion, or antipathy to other imperialist powers. Many of these people were never investigated or tried and brought to justice after 1945. However, during the 1990s, the South Korean government started investigating some individuals who had allegedly become wealthy while collaborating with the Japanese military. In South Korea it is also alleged that, during the political climate of the Cold War, many such individuals — and/or their associates or relatives — were able to acquire influence and to assist in the covering-up, or non-investigation, of war crimes in order not to incriminate themselves.
Non-government bodies and individuals have also undertaken their own investigations. For example, in 2005, a South Korean freelance journalist, Jung Soo-woong, located in Japan some descendants of people involved in the 1895 assassination of Empress Myeongseong (Queen Min), the last Empress of Korea. The assassination was conducted by Japanese government agents, because of the Empress's involvement in attempts to reduce Japanese influence in Korea. Jung recorded the apologies of the individuals. -
digressed to japan world war crimes?
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yes, i think that is most likely. Remember, AQ has turned into a brand name and a rallying flag for many wannabe terrorists.Originally posted by LazerLordz:I think it's a splinter pseudo Islamo-facist group that claimed the name of Al Qaeda for fame and recognition.
LL, On another note, did you just quote the Sun? I hope not because that is, imo, one of the worst among the Briitsh Gutter press. I call it 'The Scum'.
And for all those calling for draconic policing practices and public lynchings, i leave you with a quote that Lord Hoffman made when he rejected a british anti-terrorism bill as being a violation of Human rights:
The real threat to the life of the nation, in the sense of a people living in accordance with its traditional laws and political values, comes not from terrorism but from laws such as these. That is the true measure of what terrorism may achieve. It is for Parliament to decide whether to give the terrorists such a victory." -
It was The Sun, but a similar report appeared in the BBC.
Passenger believes he saw bomber
Richard Jones - picture from INS
Mr Jones said he saw a man in an agitated state on the bus
A bus passenger says he may have seen one of those responsible for the bomb attacks in London.
Richard Jones, from Binfield, near Bracknell, Berks, had got off a bus just before it was blown up in Tavistock Square on Thursday.
Mr Jones, 61, an IT consultant, has told BBC News he saw a man acting suspiciously on the bus.
He said the man was fiddling with something in his bag and seemed in an agitated state.
Everybody is standing face-to-face and this guy kept dipping into this bag
Richard Jones
Mr Jones, who was forced to take the bus from Euston after Tube services were suspended, said: "He was standing next to me with a bag at his feet and he kept dipping into this bag and fiddling about with something.
"I was getting quite annoyed with this because it was a crowded bus.
"Everybody is standing face-to-face and this guy kept dipping into this bag."
Mr Jones, who said he got off the bus because it was in heavy traffic, has given a statement to police.
Police have yet been unable to establish whether a suicide bomber was responsible for the attack on the bus.
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Fair enough, but i have real doubts about the accuracy of a report that actually quotes the Sun.
Just to provide some balance to the report, a press conference held just this afternoon has denied that there is any evidence pointing to a suicide bomb. -
So the BBC picked it up in a hurry?Let's see how it goes.Originally posted by lwflee:Yea, i found the source. Fair enough, but i have real doubts about the accuracy of a report that actually quotes the Sun.
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Ah, yes, At least the BBC doesn't throw words like 'suicide bomber' out quite so hastily as the other report. O well.