If everybody was created equal...y r we so prejudiced...
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guys.......comments pls
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Because we want people to look at us.
"Look at me! I'm special!"
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that's because not everyone is created equal...but we try to level the playing field by giving theoretically equal oppurtunity....
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I'm special too...
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I am unique
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tssk tssk tsskk...
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All of us are equal in the sense that we are each loved by God to one and the same degree; so that in dying for us upon the Cross, Christ can be said to have done something that he would have been willing to do for each of us individually.Originally posted by Othello_Red:that's because not everyone is created equal...but we try to level the playing field by giving theoretically equal oppurtunity....
Not all of us are endowed with the same gifts (or with any one gift to one and the same degree) but that doesn't mean that the use that a given person might have made of a gift which he might have been given (and assuming too that the gift in question can be supposed to have been given to him to some determinate degree), cannot be validly compared with the use that someone else may have made of a lesser gift or of the same gift to a lesser degree.
The point is basic: for if a person who has 2 dollars to begin with can be validly spoken of as having doubled his money (if he had used his 2 dollars in such a way as to make himself 2 dollars more), then obviously what he will have done in this regard can be said (in this sense) to have been the literal equivalent of what a millionaire should have done in turning 2 million dollars of his own money into 4 million dollars.
Whether we 'level the playing field' is therefore irrelevant to the question of whether God will value each of us to the same extent; and since the value of a human being resides in his identity as a person bearing God's own image, we can be sure therefore that God values each person as much as he values anyone else; by the same token, we can also be sure that our lack of 'gifts' will not make for a dimunition of our ultimate value.
To God, a child afflicted with Down's syndrome is every bit as precious as a child without this affliction; and the life of such a child must therefore be as strenuously defend as the life of any other.
This is Christianity; any poistion that detracts from what I have said here isn't Christianity.
This is the fundamental reason why the Catholic Church opposes abortion as a form of murder.
Ben -
Ask the penguins.
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thx for d long explanation....bt i appreciate itOriginally posted by MrBach:All of us are equal in the sense that we are each loved by God to one and the same degree; so that in dying for us upon the Cross, Christ can be said to have done something that he would have been willing to do for each of us individually.
Not all of us are endowed with the same gifts (or with any one gift to one and the same degree) but that doesn't mean that the use that a given person might have made of a gift which he might have been given (and assuming too that the gift in question can be supposed to have been given to him to some determinate degree), cannot be validly compared with the use that someone else may have made of a lesser gift or of the same gift to a lesser degree.
The point is basic: for if a person who has 2 dollars to begin with can be validly spoken of as having doubled his money (if he had used his 2 dollars in such a way as to make himself 2 dollars more), then obviously what he will have done in this regard can be said (in this sense) to have been the literal equivalent of what a millionaire should have done in turning 2 million dollars of his own money into 4 million dollars.
Whether we 'level the playing field' is therefore irrelevant to the question of whether God will value each of us to the same extent; and since the value of a human being resides in his identity as a person bearing God's own image, we can be sure therefore that God values each person as much as he values anyone else; by the same token, we can also be sure that our lack of 'gifts' will not make for a dimunition of our ultimate value.
To God, a child afflicted with Down's syndrome is every bit as precious as a child without this affliction; and the life of such a child must therefore be as strenuously defend as the life of any other.
This is Christianity; any poistion that detracts from what I have said here isn't Christianity.
This is the fundamental reason why the Catholic Church opposes abortion as a form of murder.
Ben
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I must correct you. NOBODY IS BORN EQUAL. NOBODY DIES EQUALLY AS WELL.
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seriously,wat has karma got to do wit dis....Originally posted by shade343:I must correct you. NOBODY IS BORN EQUAL. NOBODY DIES EQUALLY AS WELL.
This is because of Karma.
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We are equal cos we are all born with 2 eyes, 2 ears, a nose and a mouth and the colour of our blood is red.
I guess we are prejudiced because we don't understand. We become too quick to judge others without even trying to understand them in the first place. -
nice....thx....Originally posted by ^spidee^:We are equal cos we are all born with 2 eyes, 2 ears, a nose and a mouth and the colour of our blood is red.
I guess we are prejudiced because we don't understand. We become too quick to judge others without even trying to understand them in the first place. -
if everyone is equal, how is the world going to function and progress?
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Only when we're not equal, there are always challenges in life. More exciting.
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even stars in an astrology chart are NOT of equal status, how can humans be equal???
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Then North Korea is doing the right thing, and we're all not.
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I suspect that many of you are confusing the terms 'equal' and 'identical'.
Obviously two objects need not be identical to each other; but as long as whatever differences there are between them are not differences of value, then the two objects can be said to be of the same value as each other; and therefore to be of equal value.
Christianity affirms the same thing about human beings: person A and person B can be as different as you like from each other (and in fact person A can even possess more 'gifts' than person B, however you may care to define the term 'gifts') but so long as A and B aren't differentiated from one another by any difference in which a difference of value should be implicated, it would still be the case that A and B are each of one and the same value.
The argument can be put like this:
1) If my value as a human being derives from the value assigned to me by God (and if human beings are distinguishable from one another by means of the gifts which each possesses but which each could have not possessed and yet have still remained the same person), then it has to follow that:
2) Whatever differences there are between myself and some other person ( where the differences in question turn on our possession of one or more of the aforesaid 'gifts'), simply do not involve a difference in value.
Therefore on the Christian view, A and B can be different from each other (and A can even have gifts that B lacks or have more gifts than B) and yet be each assigned the same value by God.
The point to be grasped here is that what differentiates A and B most fundamentally is not the possession by either of any given set of gifts (since on the view we are considering the set of gifts in question could just as easily have been assigned to someone else without impairing the indivduality of each) but rather their respective individualities; and that this would mean in turn that A and B can both be equally loved by God and be validly deemed to be each as ultimately important as the other.
You don't define the value of a human being in an ultimate sense in terms of whatever 'gifts' he may possess (though obviously the 'gifts' that he possesses would be relevant to defining his ultilitarian value in relation to some particular function or other); that is why human equality (as defined by Christianity) is no way undermined by the consideration that human beings are different or are even differently gifted.
The example of North Korea is misleading; for in the first place human beings are not equally adept at performing a particular function (which may be essential to the overall functioning or flourishing of a state) and given that some functions are more important than others for the flourishing or functioning of a state, it may be a mistake to put in place a system that makes it impossible for those with the gifts requisite to the efficient execution of the more important functions (relative to the end of the perpetuation of a state), to achieve a greater temporal reward than those who lack these gifts.
Thus a state which does not put in place such a system, need not be held to have discountenanced Christian equality in the sense that I have defined it above; conversely, any state that does put in place such a system need not be held to countenance Christian equality (as North Korea, in fact, does not).
The equality obtaining between men, as conceived by Christianity, exists on a higher (so to speak) plane; to see what it means, look at the Crucifix.
In the Crucifix (and in the Passion which it represents), you see how unfathomably important each human being is; and you see also the ultimate ground of our fundamental equality with each other.
His Sacred Blood makes for your value as much as it makes for mine; and it also makes for the fact that we are all ultimately each equal to each other.
This is the heart of Christianity; that, at least, is what the Catholic Faith teaches.
Ben (fully 'Christian' and fully 'Catholic') -
Human nature. a summary of that long post up there
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Karma dictates the type of suffering you deserve.Originally posted by ashtina82:seriously,wat has karma got to do wit dis.... -
Jesus was sentenced to death by the Jews and killed by Romans on the cross
He did not die for us
The cross is commonly used for displaying corpses -
NO 1 is borned equal and no 1 is never prejudiced
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just remember, you're unique, just like everyone else...
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Agree...Originally posted by ChingAlvin:NO 1 is borned equal and no 1 is never prejudiced -
we are all created equal...................ly unequal.