Do employers know what they want?
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nothin' ...Originally posted by kopiosatu:just to sweep roads.
first year, general cleaning...
lesson 1 : how to hold a friggin broom
lesson 2 : proper posture when sweeping...
What is this world coming to??
just another alternative for the academic world to earn some money since they are passing the knowledge to u... anyway, there is no free lunch in this world... -
haha.. actually, this phenomeon is only happening in asia... take the case of one country for instance... Holland... the country doesn't look at ur qualifications even if u have master or pHd... they just want to know whether u can do or get the job done at the end of the day...Originally posted by stormax:No matter what they studied, as long as they are a degree holder then are they allow for interview. In HKG, also increase facing this problem
For Singapore, it's just matter of time now.......
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well, either they ended up wokin' overseas or the gahmen will be trying to attract some companies to try to hire these 'others' in which u mentioned...Originally posted by kopiosatu:Ok, now... if everyone wants a degree holder for any job.
What happens to the others?
anyway, the gahmen knows that if there ain't enough job for everyone for each qualification... then they will know that there will be political domestic problems... who knows what might happen...
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there is always a cause and effect...Originally posted by kopiosatu:problem is, singapore is too saturated... gotta head overseas...
cause: singaporeans go overseas to work...
Effect: foreigners come into singapore to work..
how about singaporeans stayin' in singapore to work..
cause: singaporeans stayin' in singpore to work...
effect: country under pressure to produce more jobs...
anyway, employers are only businessmen... remember this... -
true.. maybe these rumours are trying to help schools to increase their enrollment in their degree courses... hence, these so-called complusory degree needed in every individual.... haha...Originally posted by terohoh:Yah employers want every employee to be a degree holder. But maybe you'll feel better if you realise that almost everyone's a degree holder nowadays. It's no big deal. Just like maybe 10 years ago, diploma holders or A level cert holders were considered "up there". It's considered nothing nowadays. -
are you serious about this?Originally posted by kopiosatu:They want a clerk... with a degree.
They want a officeboy... with a degree.
Do they know what they are asking for???
in singapore? -
i don't think so... it depends... some o lvl holders are managers in some private companes...Originally posted by terohoh:Haha...bo bian lor, degree holder work as clerk, poly grad still ok cos' they're specialized in a field. "A" level & "O" level cert holders become roadsweeper and kopi kia lor. Anything lower...too bad. Well, that's Singapore. -
i think he's creating rumours or somethin'...Originally posted by dragg:are you serious about this?
in singapore? -
it happened in japan a long time ago. thats why only people from the top universities are offered jobs at big corporations. to the japanese, not joining a big corporation is like 'career over'. i think the koreans thik likewise.Originally posted by mistyblue:Its like this in Japan already... its going to happen here.
some without just go start their own biz, work in jobs that don't ask to be degree
but it does not mean earn less in these jobs...
so the rest have to take less promising jobs or go overseas. -
i think he's creating rumours or somethin'...Originally posted by dragg:are you serious about this?
in singapore? -
nope, read our classifiedsOriginally posted by organization:i think he's creating rumours or somethin'... -
having a degree is something but nt everything...
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true.. sometimes, i wonder why take us along when in the end it abandons us... s'pore education system can be attested to that... less promising degree graduates have to take up less promising jobs... haix...Originally posted by dragg:it happened in japan a long time ago. thats why only people from the top universities are offered jobs at big corporations. to the japanese, not joining a big corporation is like 'career over'. i think the koreans thik likewise.
so the rest have to take less promising jobs or go overseas. -
i see... thanks...Originally posted by kopiosatu:nope, read our classifieds
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it is true that society has changed.
it is only a matter of time our market is saturated with degree holders. so the only way out is shift down or shift out.
degree holders take the jobs of poly grads.
poly grads take the jobs of ITE grads.
ITE grads take the jobs of o levels grads.
o levels grads take the jobs of the uneducated. -
come to think of it, these people who are less promising degree graduates make up the bulk of the 'quantity' who failed to make it to the top...Originally posted by kopiosatu:They want a clerk... with a degree.
They want a officeboy... with a degree.
Do they know what they are asking for???
if these happen right now in our soil, i do wonder if the local Uni can reduce the intake so as not to affect the quality of the degree graduates...
i guess evidence like this speaks for itself.. if everyone wants to have a degree.. that's where quality over quantity came in...
now the 'quantity' have to make do with whatever job that comes along... -
maybe... but i guess the one who stands out is the one who has work experience regardless of whatever qualification one has... if u can't perform , then what's the use of hiring a poly grad or ite or o lvl... i think scenario will be like this... if u can't perform, u will have to pick any job that comes along... if u can, u make it to the top...Originally posted by dragg:it is true that society has changed.
it is only a matter of time our market is saturated with degree holders. so the only way out is shift down or shift out.
degree holders take the jobs of poly grads.
poly grads take the jobs of ITE grads.
ITE grads take the jobs of o levels grads.
o levels grads take the jobs of the uneducated.
foreign workers came to s'pore without formal or any qualification to work, yet some of them do make it to the top meaning they are the best few among the industry and be promoted to supervisior positions... -
See what the island-wide paper chase has done.
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Annabel Chong also has a degree...heard she was PSC scholar some more..
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yes.Originally posted by kopiosatu:Do they know what they are asking for???
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also got poly grads taking on degree holders' jobs lehz...Originally posted by dragg:degree holders take the jobs of poly grads.
poly grads take the jobs of ITE grads.