Some people were sent to DB
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Arent u a SAF regular?Originally posted by subarugal:after reading all the reply i was like.. wondering if i shld reply..
heh.. itch finger reply lor..
haaa
well there are always reason for punishment isn't it.
to the NSF or Man might be minor error. but during war time can we afford to make any error ? The answer everyone know
If during peacetime, they ani't able to ctrl the man how are they gonna ctrl them during the war time ?
so during NS be gd and listen to order. heh... it make ur life better everybody happy lor.. heee..
and jolly well there are always order to follow, its just the stubborness in us that we refuse to do so. So who to blame ?
Put on the thinking cap...
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Oh sorry . Misread. Haha.Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):hmmm can tell mi what is the chance of going to jail for scolding someone FUCK U??
unless of coz the person happened with Lee as his surname lor
SEE THE DIFFERENT?
Ok. But the chance of going into DB because of that is also slim. -
U served in SAF or CD? 6 years for what indention form. what is the severity of yr offence, care to elaborate more?Originally posted by fai:i got DB for 6 days for misplacing indention form... after i ORD i got a "Very Good" rating... . my overall performace during my service was good. Civil Defence for the win. -
it's 6 DAYS lah~!!Originally posted by About A GaL:U served in SAF or CD? 6 years for what indention form. what is the severity of yr offence, care to elaborate more?
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But, some of our instructors are behaving the opposite!
yah lah, always like this one. that's why i never respect most of the higher-ups in the army, except for 1 or 2 really admirable warrants.
want to listen to ironic case of my last time 2SG anot?
during parade, he warn us very fierecly not to smoke in toilet; if we kenna caught, we die like hell.
1 month later, our 2IC(Captain) caught him in toilet smoking on his own sweet time reading newspaper. see lah. such fools can be respected anot?
i tell u, in army.......if there's any respectable souls, usually it's warrant officers.
the current breed of specs(all those who're now MSG and below) are very pimpish one. officers also. got a few out of those 1WOs and above very very respectable one.
like last time, my camp got 1 warrant officer risk his own life to save NSF from the near-explosion ammo leakage/acid. in the end, his back and arms are now badly scarred(very very ugly, gross) and horrible from the attack.
army got moved by his act, so promote him to 2WO. -
slim??? u tell ur OC about that or even PC is enoughOriginally posted by TooFree:Oh sorry . Misread. Haha.
Ok. But the chance of going into DB because of that is also slim. -
6 days... not not 6 years..... so long i key siao sia..
my indention form is suppose to supply equipment for a battalion of reservists to take IPPT... indention forms have 2 ... one for my officer and the other for the requesting officer. i lost one because that day i am holding to alot of indention forms. i served in civil defence physical training wing in civil defence academy... -
Not that simple. The F-word they can use anyhow and when a lower rank NSF uses it, he gets charged. wtf rules is that?Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):slim??? u tell ur OC about that or even PC is enough
What is the f-word even doing in army, a supposedly disciplined organisation. Is that hypocritical? because the 3rd sergeants use it, so will the NSF too -
No. You are theoretically correct due to the directive on account of insubordination tho' not very practical to throw you in DB because of one word. Not unless you fight. In this case, SOL is more effective.Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):slim??? u tell ur OC about that or even PC is enough -
ur instructors are just finding an excuse to "punish" U...at the end of the day who benefits?its U....ur tekan sessions will show on ur IPPT and SOC results...although U might not really want to take it that way...Originally posted by chillz88:Hey me in NS now!
I'm in one of the Sergeant course and in one of my lecture, we are taught how to behave like a good instructor. But, some of our instructors are behaving the opposite!
Sometimes we all kena knuckle push ups though I thought it's already banned!
Our dorm inspection is worst! Everything is cleaned already, so thry try to find fault with us and look behind the locker instead which is placed by the wall. What they do is to push the locker out a bit and 'feel' the back of the locker and pull out some dust! After that, they pump us 100 push ups!
Welcome to NS life people!
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huh? what talking u????????Originally posted by About A GaL:Not that simple. The F-word they can use anyhow and when a lower rank NSF uses it, he gets charged. wtf rules is that?
What is the f-word even doing in army, a supposedly disciplined organisation. Is that hypocritical? because the 3rd sergeants use it, so will the NSF too
ya ya ya... u try saying it to ur PC or OC lor... just try guai ok...Originally posted by TooFree:No. You are theoretically correct due to the directive on account of insubordination tho' not very practical to throw you in DB because of one word. Not unless you fight. In this case, SOL is more effective. -
the F-word , ccb and hokkien vulgarities are for low-class people like Nikar.
pundeh is reserved for people like about a gal. -
1 hand they are trying to teach singaporeans to be courteous.
i don't see anything about being macho by scolding vulgars at NSF. -
i agree....Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:the F-word , ccb and hokkien vulgarities are for low-class people like Nikar.
pundeh is reserved for people like about a gal. -
i am not against insurbodination.
There was once in vietnam war , a higher ranking officer tried to kill a group of civilians by throwing a grenade at them.
This lower ranking officer came in and stood in between and saved the civilians.
If during war time , if anything is not right.
i don't care if you are a officer , you are going down. -
Take a recent case for example.
If i had seen the british policeman trying to pump 5 bullets into a suspect's head.
i would have restrained him immediately ...even as a lower-ranking officer or as colleague. and use another method to knock the terrorist out..or make him faint first.
i don't really see why SAF should charge all lower-ranking pple for insurbodination . the lower ranking person might be correct.
After all , we are all humans.doesn't mean higher ranking officers are correct , lower ranking officers are wrong. -
Even for insurance , you want people to insure a ship , you have to pay millions of dollars or a percentage as premium.
Just like houses , the bigger the houses , the more the premium
If you let people handle IFV/MBT , then they get peanuts , you get monkeys.
Same thing. If you want people to do a big job , you jolly well pay them more.
Why give them heavy responsibility ? Even managers who are given heavy responsibilities are paid very well.
Even insurance for big ticket properties are higher , cause the risker are higher.
If NSF are given huge responsibilities , they should be paid more.
You pay them $350 a month and expect them to be liable for a tank.
what kind of shit is that?
even insurance companies also demand a portion of the property value as a premium so they will help take liability if anything goes wrong. -
I fear that subarugal might have a problem with people management.Originally posted by SpeedStar:Oh no, its topic on NS again.
To gals;
No offence to ladies but I dun think u have the position to commend on any of the issue here...cos u never been throu anything in NS culture. What will u do if u r in that position...There could be many reasons behind each incident. Whatever it is reply to a thread like this will only get u flamed.
To guys,
Come on NS now is much more sin nang than last time. Anyway this case only teaches u one thing: responsiblity. If this kind of small thing u also cannot acheive( report RT on time ), how r going to work in the society??
Cheers,
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In the first place, if the government dun be so greedy or corrupt with their overpaid bank accounts, we might have enuff money to setup a milltary force as a organsation like the police. Dun say not enuff money 4 million ppl pay 10 dollars each yearly enuff for the "securitry budget"? But their living in mansions and high society lives means we all are slave to the army. Thanks for wasting 2 years of our lives. Not blaming the lee or anyone in particular, but some governement ppl are just 2 scare or braindead by all those studies to try anything new even if it works better.
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NSFs are tasked with the nation's biggest responsibilty - Defence. I couldnt think of anything more important.Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:Even for insurance , you want people to insure a ship , you have to pay millions of dollars or a percentage as premium.
Just like houses , the bigger the houses , the more the premium
If you let people handle IFV/MBT , then they get peanuts , you get monkeys.
Same thing. If you want people to do a big job , you jolly well pay them more.
Why give them heavy responsibility ? Even managers who are given heavy responsibilities are paid very well.
Even insurance for big ticket properties are higher , cause the risker are higher.
If NSF are given huge responsibilities , they should be paid more.
You pay them $350 a month and expect them to be liable for a tank.
what kind of shit is that?
even insurance companies also demand a portion of the property value as a premium so they will help take liability if anything goes wrong.
So why are they not getting their due wages? The Govt reasoning of paying high wages to those who holding key responsibilities is not refelcted here. So is this policy suited for their own needs only? -
In the case, NSFs shall deserve the moral authorithy to lead the nation instead of people who live in multi story houses with posh cars
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If u have to pay someone to be honest, I am afraid the people around u are already dishonest. If i am the govt i would rather have a separate department with highly paid loyal officers to check corruption.
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u frm ammo base? which depot? i tot ammo base give chance....last time i did quite abit of funny things. should have been charged but my OC always gave me a chance...Originally posted by Love Story:Sending people into DB just because they never go for their RT on saturday, what ammo base managment coming to. Yesterday i just saw a friend of mine, being hand curff and send to DB for 8 days. Although it's not very long, just think about the record he will have next time after NS when he's looking for a job.
http://www.gamersquare.com/forum/showthread.php?p=618885#post618885 -
But heard from ppl bef they dig trenched? True?