Is it truly copyrighted?
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I wonder if anybody thought of this? Its probably bullshit, but do take a moment to think about it.
Downloading games, mp3s, software and video files from the internet, is that truly an infringement of copyrighted material?
A lecturer once told my lecture class, you can copy work, as long as you change it a little, even just a little, its your work.
Whenever we download files from the internet, its always the case where the files are already modified.
Lets give a few examples:
Game/Software: These files usually come in the form of ISO or .EXE format. And usually the .EXE format files are being edited already, edited as in already cracked or hacked by some people. And ISO files are not the original format of these files. I mean Game/Software they usually comes in CD form and ISO files and CDs are different right? Its not like we copy an exact duplicated of the CD for others. The entire format is different, how is it being copyrigted?
mp3s: These music files were probably ripped from some CDs. Same case as above.
Video files: These video files were probably ripped from some CDs or recorded directly from the television. The files recorded directly from television, the file is only unique to the person who recorded it as he created the file and if he decides to share it, whats wrong? Its not like he stole the film from the backstage of the studio and made a duplicate of it, its a completely different file.
And fansubs, the video files are even edited to placed subtitles, its an edited, its even more changed, how is it copyrighted?
Heck, even people selling piracy, they aren't selling the exact same thing as the original company right? Usually the Disc picture and packaging are different. How is it piracy when everything is different?
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Hannor Hannor...
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Err, artiste's no need earn money ar?
Piracy is not encouraging the industry to produce more stuffs. How would you feel when you don't get paid for your job? -
tis part he say change ur work..must put reference one. If he didnt say it, he is crappy lecturer.Originally posted by Ayukat:I wonder if anybody thought of this? Its probably bullshit, but do take a moment to think about it.
Downloading games, mp3s, software and video files from the internet, is that truly an infringement of copyrighted material?
A lecturer once told my lecture class, you can copy work, as long as you change it a little, even just a little, its your work.
Whenever we download files from the internet, its always the case where the files are already modified. -
Imagine your friend take your report, changed it teeny weeny bit and hand it up saying its his work and you had no part in it. How would you feel?
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I never say artiste no need earn money mah, I only say what we are doing is not really intruding copyright, since the entire thing we are getting is of a different format from the original.Originally posted by DrTech:Err, artiste's no need earn money ar?
Piracy is not encouraging the industry to produce more stuffs. How would you feel when you don't get paid for your job? -
Usually, is I take their stuff... and redo everyting myself...Originally posted by ditzy:Imagine your friend take your report, changed it teeny weeny bit and hand it up saying its his work and you had no part in it. How would you feel?
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work given by lecturer needs referencing.. other media like mp3, video, how to reference? Unless they say sth like 'xxx taken frm yyy' like pictures.. so acceptable.
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Fucking plagiariser!Originally posted by Ayukat:Usually, is I take their stuff... and redo everyting myself...
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Hehehehe....
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He never say need reference... you copy from friend work...u still go put there reference ar?Originally posted by alexkusu:work given by lecturer needs referencing.. other media like mp3, video, how to reference? Unless they say sth like 'xxx taken frm yyy' like pictures.. so acceptable.
Actually for files, they are not just reference they are already credited... TV shows always credit de mah..software also... -
he lousy lecturer loh.. no standards one.Originally posted by Ayukat:He never say need reference... you copy from friend work...u still go put there reference ar?
Actually for files, they are not just reference they are already credited... TV shows always credit de mah..software also... -
The file extension may differ. but the contents DID NOT change, right?
So how can u claim that it is 'entirely different'? -
I meant its not entirely the same...Originally posted by Lim Beh Ka Li Kong:
The file extension may differ. but the contents DID NOT change, right?
So how can u claim that it is 'entirely different'? The filename is also different...and some ripping like to credit themselves within the content itself...doesn't that change content a little too? -
Generally speaking, what your lect mention is true.
as long as you change something, it does not invade the copyright rule,
BUT, please take a look at the ORIGINAL cd that you brought, read it's fine-print.
"No part of this cd content may be copy or distributed without the owner's permission", (read the words, "No part")as such, by this line, it will binds the copyright rule together.
You do not need to copy the entire cd to be prosecuted, all you need to do is to just copy a song and you are against the copyright law.
btw, unless you are thinking about taking the song, recut your own album just YOUR singing...
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how can u just change abit of others work can call it your own..you have to state the source of content..
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I agree with you.That's why Digital Rights Management is a thorny issue.When we stretch the legal argument to the limit, the mere conversion of formats means some form of signal degradation.But copyright lawsuits often focus on the whole collection of bytes as a unique piece of work.Originally posted by Ayukat:I meant its not entirely the same...
But look at the cassette tape issue..it's been considered legal after decades.It's also about the mindset of people.We copy something but the quality is degraded to a certain extent.
Even the actual act of composition and release in digital form is a form of modification.Where do we draw the line? -
Isn't there a flaw in that sentence? "No part of this cd content may be copy or distributed without the owner's permission"Originally posted by ejb:Generally speaking, what your lect mention is true.
as long as you change something, it does not invade the copyright rule,
BUT, please take a look at the ORIGINAL cd that you brought, read it's fine-print.
"No part of this cd content may be copy or distributed without the owner's permission", (read the words, "No part")as such, by this line, it will binds the copyright rule together.
You do not need to copy the entire cd to be prosecuted, all you need to do is to just copy a song and you are against the copyright law.
btw, unless you are thinking about taking the song, recut your own album just YOUR singing...
OWNER? Who is the owner? They never stated who is the owner of the CD? The owner can be the one who owns the CDs...
And for TV-Rips... they dun include this sentence... -
ru looking for people's opnions or seeking justification?
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It's the CONTENTS, and not the FORM, that matters lah...
If u were to copy a movie, then edit one line at the end of it, 99.999% of the 'edited/modified movie' still infringes the copyright, yah? -
Nah, just want to get famous.Originally posted by alexkusu:ru looking for people's opnions or seeking justification?
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Are you saying by quoting this post of yours, you can sue me for copyrighting?Originally posted by Lim Beh Ka Li Kong:It's the CONTENTS, and not the FORM, that matters lah...
If u were to copy a movie, then edit one line at the end of it, 99.999% of the 'edited/modified movie' still infringes the copyright, yah? -
Nah... I'm no lawyer to answer that...Originally posted by Ayukat:Are you saying by quoting this post of yours, you can sue me for copyrighting?
but now tt I have also quoted ur post, we can counter-sue each other... -
Duh, quoting is a form of proper referencing.
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The cracking part already violated DMCA liao.Originally posted by Ayukat:Game/Software: These files usually come in the form of ISO or .EXE format. And usually the .EXE format files are being edited already, edited as in already cracked or hacked by some people. And ISO files are not the original format of these files. I mean Game/Software they usually comes in CD form and ISO files and CDs are different right? Its not like we copy an exact duplicated of the CD for others. The entire format is different, how is it being copyrigted?
ISO is CD image .. of course in general it is a duplicate, the copy protection nonwithstanding. Hello .. it is like you ghost a drive .. then install the image in the lab computers.
Anyway .. maybe you're not clear about derivative works and the dangers of proclaiming your work as one.
By the way .. in case you not heard .. some girl guides were sued for singing the happy birthday song (i tink) around their campfire.