Views on Gays???
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Ok people, here is a list of topics that will always go into an infinte loop:
>> Religion
>> Race
>> Gays/Lesbians
Pointless debates. They are all people. -
does it matter to you whether gays exist?
they're humping each other's arses not yours so shut the f up and stop biatching to gays, you holding hands with a partner of the opposite sex can be just as repelling as their actions are to you so who's right and who's wrong? -
true.. does it even matter? what did they do to you anyway..?
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maybe the author got fag-raped.Originally posted by papercut87:true.. does it even matter? what did they do to you anyway..? or maybe his/her gay lover dumped him/her. -
so if their children are gay, they should have to live their whole life in denial, grief and face unnecessary guilt and shame, thinking there is something wrong with themselves when there isn't, for the sake of adherence to religion? I don't see the logic thereOriginally posted by oxford mushroom:Gays have become more vocal about having greater participation in society. But if gays want greater acceptance, the biggest mistake is to put society on the defensive. We live in a relatively conservative society which is much more religious than many western nations.
It is a fact that adherents of two major religions believe homosexuality is contrary to the teachings of their faiths. They do not seek to convert homosexuals, but do not want gay people to turn their children against the teachings of their mosques and churches either.
Instead of reassuring religious Singaporeans that gays will respect their religions, I have seen gay people attacking religious teachings and trying to ridicule revered religious texts. That is the worse mistake they can make, for they have magnified the fears of the conservative majority in so doing.
My views on gays? I have no issue with they do in the privacy of their homes but it is the arrogance and complete disregard for the cultural and religious sensitivities of the majority that irks me. -
maybe he's just gay in denial!Originally posted by vito_corleone:maybe the author got fag-raped. or maybe his/her gay lover dumped him/her. thats why he want to find out what people think about people like him! -
like i said, he may have been dumped by his gay lover.Originally posted by HENG@:maybe he's just gay in denial! thats why he want to find out what people think about people like him! -
Originally posted by vito_corleone:like i said, he may have been dumped by his gay lover.
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why are we always repeating topics?
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Yes..tsk tsk..some caveman just cant adjust themselves to fit e enviroment they r in, n these pple r always stcuk in their generation-to generation old-fashioned way of thinking....haizOriginally posted by ShutterBug:Ok people, here is a list of topics that will always go into an infinte loop:
>> Religion
>> Race
>> Gays/Lesbians
Pointless debates. They are all people.
Think they shd learn from "Xiao Qiang" (aka Cockroach)...."Xiao Qiang" been in existence way b4 dinosaur revolution....but has been able to survive thorugh centuries up to 2day...Same look, stil as gross as ever (YiKES!)
The morale of e cockroach story is that "If a cockroach can survive thru such dramatic changes of our ever-changing society/ Era, then y not BIG BoYS of this thread whose views on gays are quite prejudiced(referring to all those ANTI(bisexuals / gays / les / butch ..etc
(but definitly not those CHILD RAPIST OR ABUSER!)
My heart realli bleed for the leg-less and arm-less beggars crawling on the streets and do u all know that they are left with no legs n hands, and e onli way to move thru the streets begging for alms is by dragging the onli remaining part of their body - "the torso) Cant imagine how they did it....and it must be damn painful process...goodness ...
A FINAL WARM MESSAGE and CALL To all Heterosexuals + Bisexuals + Homosexuals + Lesbains + Butches + Non-sexual + Anti-sexuals (ple who chose celibacy ) in all-mighty SGForums ....lets unite our individual powers, unique in each other's way, and generate this power to love n accept anyone ard us...be it straight or oherwise..
Cos its reali waste of time n tedious work typing all these post..
SO my MOTTO: Do keep focused on ur own life and instead of bothering other ppls views on gay (wich in e FIRST PLACE wld not affrct u in any way (mind ur owm biz,and..unless u r a sicko who has a sickening behaviour of exploiting gay pple / or any other weaker species of human (abnormal in their sexual orietaion n wsns drew attentrio -
Not everyone shares your views on homosexuality. Not everyone thinks there is nothing wrong with being gay and not everyone thinks it cannot be changed. You have your own views and that is fine. But the world does not revolve around you and those who choose to hold to their religious belief have the right to do so.Originally posted by HENG@:so if their children are gay, they should have to live their whole life in denial, grief and face unnecessary guilt and shame, thinking there is something wrong with themselves when there isn't, for the sake of adherence to religion? I don't see the logic there -
I beginning get sick from all these arguments abt gays.
Especially with some of their replies.
It only gets on my nerves more. -
u know, ignorance is nothing to be proud of. Religious beliefs have proven to be wrong time and time again. Earth at the center of the universe, earth is flat, it is right to kill in the name of (insert religion name here)'s God. Sounds familiar? Just because they don't believe that sexuality is diversified in all living beings, doesn't make that a fact, and the fact also remains that those gay people who were born into a religious family, will end up suffering. Should they be allowed to suffer due to ignorance? Is religion a good excuse for discrimination? There are some things u have to speak up against, even if it means speaking up against religion. The problem with too many people is they THINK the world revolves around their religion, to the extent they don't even respect other religions. I can name at least 2... C*******ns and M****ms. IF u wanna talk about religious sensitivity, maybe u;d do well to start off from them.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Not everyone shares your views on homosexuality. Not everyone thinks there is nothing wrong with being gay and not everyone thinks it cannot be changed. You have your own views and that is fine. But the world does not revolve around you and those who choose to hold to their religious belief have the right to do so. -
and im getting sick of the replies i see from bigots. Makes me wonder if society isn't going further backwards into the age of ignorance?Originally posted by NuLife:I beginning get sick from all these arguments abt gays.
Especially with some of their replies.
It only gets on my nerves more. -
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There are some things u have to speak up against, even if it means speaking up against religion.
If all gays take that stand, there will be no place for them in multi-racial, multi-religious Singapore. They will always be marginalized in society and it's their own fault. -
It is psychological. I have some gay/lesbian friends when I was younger. I'm straight . One very handsome chap was a gay and broke many girls' hearts seeing him holding hands with another chap. One gay friend told me how he had a fling with another man in HK.
Sometimes, "she" was more pretty and petty than a real woman. Is this natural?
You think you are trapped in a man's body and you feel like a woman. Or a trapped in a girl's body and feel like a boy.
You feel, you think but physically you are what you are! That is the fact. Many probably let their hearts rule their head. Some have troubled past.
No matter how you change yourself, your mindset, you are once a man or a woman. A woman and a man are meant to be together and they can be pro-creative. What can a man and another man produce?
I personally feel it is abnormal to be attracted to the same sex. You have flings, or you may have sex diseases, or live this way until you are old. When you reach menopause and then retirement, it will be worst. I wonder what this ends with? family? loneliness? or rejection? or a memory? -
The thing is, Society hides under the label of being "conservative" in order to segregate. Why is there a need to classify and segregate in the first place? Religious teachings always teaches good. Religious teachings do not teach you to fear gays or hate them. People who claim that these religious text teaches them to hate gays or go against them are obviously ignorant.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Gays have become more vocal about having greater participation in society. But if gays want greater acceptance, the biggest mistake is to put society on the defensive. We live in a relatively conservative society which is much more religious than many western nations.
It is a fact that adherents of two major religions believe homosexuality is contrary to the teachings of their faiths. They do not seek to convert homosexuals, but do not want gay people to turn their children against the teachings of their mosques and churches either.
Instead of reassuring religious Singaporeans that gays will respect their religions, I have seen gay people attacking religious teachings and trying to ridicule revered religious texts. That is the worse mistake they can make, for they have magnified the fears of the conservative majority in so doing.
My views on gays? I have no issue with they do in the privacy of their homes but it is the arrogance and complete disregard for the cultural and religious sensitivities of the majority that irks me. -
My do not believe in existance of god nor
agree entirely on muslims and christianity teachings,
and i expect differing views of others.
However, I still see the good things they bring to the society
while at the same time, there are some muslims and christians
who are "problematic" people.
(which is a personality problem, not the religious teachings)
Simliarly, I feel that gay is a psychological problem,
and others can differ from my view.
I can accept that many are nice people,
while others are #%^#$%^(fill in the blank)....
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But its a give and take thing. Bigotry has no place in sg, whether its bigotry against race or sexuality. Since singapore is a multi-racial society, combating bigotry is important to the society. So why do u have to differentiate between racial bigotry and sexuality bigotry? Or do u mean they should take bigotry lying down just "for the sake" of society?Originally posted by oxford mushroom:If all gays take that stand, there will be no place for them in multi-racial, multi-religious Singapore. They will always be marginalized in society and it's their own fault.
The way I see it, its the people who indulge in bigotry to begin with who are at fault for marginalizing others. The way I see it, its a no win situation. U either take bigotry lying down n get marginalized, or u speak up against it and get marginalized for speaking up against bigotry anyway. Meanwhile the REAL culprits don't get any blame. What stupid logic. -
1 Word:Originally posted by mumof2:What can a man and another man produce?
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agreed. ignorance rules most of singapore society i see.Originally posted by shade343:The thing is, Society hides under the label of being "conservative" in order to segregate. Why is there a need to classify and segregate in the first place? Religious teachings always teaches good. Religious teachings do not teach you to fear gays or hate them. People who claim that these religious text teaches them to hate gays or go against them are obviously ignorant. -
1st time i agree with u. gays, like straight ppl, got nice n nasty ones. personally i see b4 quite a few headFucks and sluts...Originally posted by NuLife:I can accept that many are nice people,
while others are #%^#$%^(fill in the blank).... -
if someone can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt
homosexuality is innate and beyond control,
we should be satisfied they're just physically / mentally challenged,
and start moving on already -
u're saying they're crazy abnormal people then? which cave did u crawl out from?Originally posted by boy in blues:if someone can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt
homosexuality is innate and beyond control,
we should be satisfied they're just physically/mentally challenged,
and start moving on already
u know what? I think bigoted people are even more mentally challenged. They seem to have trouble understanding simple concepts or be open minded about them. They must be all retarded, bigots.
or perhaps they're so insecure of themselves that they must belong to a group and then label themselves as 'normal' and anyone else who don't belong in the same group as being 'abnormal'
so take your pick bigots. Are u retarded, or insecure?