Jesus had a daugther!
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ghimpheng said:
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Originally posted by Northwind:
So the Bible is the only truth of christianity is it?
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Yes................
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Then you simply further my point....
So then the Knights Templar did not exist, as they are not mentioned in the Bible.
All of the documents written down at the time of Jesus, outside of the 12 disciples also is false, because they are not referenced in the Bible too.
Do you worship Jesus, or do you worship the Romans who crucified him, then editted the Bible, and then controlled the entire religion itself for years after that?
What you claim is the same as going to one restraunt your whole life and claiming that their Menu is the only food that really is in existant truth.... -
I have reported it to MITA to monitor...Sedition Act can be brought against anyone who stirs up ill-feelings in any community or religious group. Be careful of your words.Originally posted by ShutterBug:MODERATORS:
This topic is very close to being Blasphemous!
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Oh please. I am not the one who started the thread. And I have said nothing against christianity. I am saying that people should simply embrace their religion and study more about it....duh....
And please tell me which "Sedition Act" you are talking about....the one of 1918 in the USA??? -
And I think you'd find it interesting to know that I am Christian....
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Not interesting.Originally posted by Northwind:And I think you'd find it interesting to know that I am Christian.... -
I Don't think Oxford Mushroom is talking about you.Originally posted by Northwind:Oh please. I am not the one who started the thread. And I have said nothing against christianity. I am saying that people should simply embrace their religion and study more about it....duh....
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Neither are you. I come with logical & friendly debate, as an addition to the forum. But it seems you are content with "not interesting" conclusions. Fine by me. Different strokes for different folks. I was honestly hoping for just good & interesting conversation...lol wrong assumptionOriginally posted by M©+square:Not interesting. -
Ah okay. My mistakeOriginally posted by Honeybunz:I Don't think Oxford Mushroom is talking about you.
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What can come out from a topic like this?Originally posted by Northwind:Neither are you. I come with logical & friendly debate, as an addition to the forum. But it seems you are content with "not interesting" conclusions. Fine by me. Different strokes for different folks. I was honestly hoping for just good & interesting conversation...lol wrong assumption
Interesting?
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Originally posted by ghimpheng:I had Some VCDs on Evidence that Jesus exist in the past and if u had watch The prince of Egypt u would know that the chariots chased and try to kill the jews and moses was drowned by the water and chariots are now found in the Same Sea In Egypt...
Actually, that's the reason why I asked ghimpheng to rephrase - what has this got to do with the topic???Originally posted by Northwind:How does this relate to the topic?
My earlier point was that kopikia used a popular novel as a point for factual reference......
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Aiyah, so what if its a non fictional history book? then someone will say history books written by historians because they want to earn money nia, documentaries produced are for money nia...etc etc
sheesh
everyday, someone out there will have proof against christianity, proof for christianity
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These long threads get too confusing lol...
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You have a lot more to learn...Originally posted by ghimpheng:Yes..........
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errr who gey gao hah???? me ar????Originally posted by laurence82:gey gao stil want to argue? shake head -
both sidesOriginally posted by Chin Eng:errr who gey gao hah???? me ar????
but lucky u no say historians only want to earn money... -
Jie Dao Sha Ren ???Originally posted by laurence82:both sides
but lucky u no say historians only want to earn money... -
sir, can i have some more knives pls?Originally posted by M©+square:Jie Dao Sha Ren ??? -
orr okay..... no problemo.....Originally posted by laurence82:both sides
but lucky u no say historians only want to earn money...
I have the utmost respect for historians and archaelogists, regardless of which sides of theology they lean towards. These people has real passion in whatever they are doing.
Dan Brown??? Money grabbing novelist.... trying to masquerade as a truth presenter. -
Get it from Chin Eng.Originally posted by laurence82:sir, can i have some more knives pls?
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I think i got ask b4...did he say his work is totally true?Originally posted by Chin Eng:orr okay..... no problemo.....
I have the utmost respect for historians and archaelogists, regardless of which sides of theology they lean towards. These people has real passion in whatever they are doing.
Dan Brown??? Money grabbing novelist.... trying to masquerade as a truth presenter.
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actually it's implied very strongly in each book, in the preface. It goes something like: the events are fictious but the premises behind the events are real.... otherwise why would the Catholic church responded, protestant writers wrote tons of stuffs, plus people here in EH keep posting the "facts" behind the books. Not to mention his TV appearances and his refusal to back down from his claims.... His claims are a lot stronger that the typical "Base on a true story" claim that we might find in some movies.Originally posted by laurence82:I think i got ask b4...did he say his work is totally true? -
Aaa? How you know I collect sharp weapons....??? You'd been to my house???Originally posted by M©+square:Get it from Chin Eng. -
If indeed Jesus had a daughter then it had to be conceived after he was crucified. The logic is simple, his sacred duty was to shed blood to wash away all we human sins. By that it means to perform that task he cannot contaminate his blood with any human cuz they are now labelled sinful. If he violate that he would have defeated G*d purpose in sending his only Son to die for our sins.
However after he resurrected and completed his task, he can by all means copulate and have babies which I believe is possible. About Mary Magdalene being his wife it is possible also assume they do not copulate until the sacred task is completed. I read some say at point of cruxifixion, she is already pregnant? That is impossible cuz it will violate the reason in the above paragraph or it is only possible but the father of her baby is not Jesus himself -
You know, actually, we won't know the truth. Maybe, the truth is that the Bible might be wrong.(no offence) Maybe the book was right? Somehow Jesus had a daughter, Mary Mangdalene was his wife, Knight of Templars existed? Who knows for sure.That's what make History fun. =D
The world surrounding us is a mystery. I actually like having these kinds of topic, as it shows you different opinions by other individualist. That's what a forums is for. To socialise, share opinons about certain topics etc etc. (im getting out of topic i know.)
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Wrong. You're taking things out of context and mixing and matching so that it agrees with your accusation of the man.Originally posted by Chin Eng:actually it's implied very strongly in each book, in the preface. It goes something like: the events are fictious but the premises behind the events are real.... otherwise why would the Catholic church responded, protestant writers wrote tons of stuffs, plus people here in EH keep posting the "facts" behind the books. Not to mention his TV appearances and his refusal to back down from his claims.... His claims are a lot stronger that the typical "Base on a true story" claim that we might find in some movies.
He clearly states it is a work of fiction. It is a novel. There are certain undisputable "facts" that he uses in the novel, and twists them around, becuase....it's a novel....There are zero "claims".....
He has talent, because it's best-selling. Not to mention he did much more research about the various topics than most people here will ever do...
In all his public appearances he states what I've said above. His comment about the "outcry" was that it hopefully pushed more people to embrace their faith by futher study.