Has Anyone Discovered Noah's Ark?
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Over the last two decades the search for Noah's Ark has received international attention. Dozens of expeditions to the Ararat region of eastern Turkey, mostly by American Christian groups, have led to numerous claims - but no proof.
According to the Bible, Noah's Ark was a large barge constructed of wood and sealed with bitumen. Its overall dimensions were at least 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high with three interior decks. A "window" appeared to be constructed around the top (Genesis 6:14-16). Incidentally, the overall size of the Ark makes it the largest seagoing vessel known before the 20th century, and its proportions are amazingly similar to the large ocean liners of today.
The Bible says Noah's boat came to rest on "the mountains of Ararat" (Genesis 8:4). "Ararat" probably designated a region (the ancient kingdom of Urartu) and not a specific mountain peak. After Noah and his family left the Ark on the mountain, the boat virtually disappeared from the pages of the Bible. Later Biblical writers never suggested they knew it could still be seen.
The mountain called Ararat today is more like a mountain range with twin peaks. Interestingly, there have been numerous reports throughout history of a large boat on a mountain in this region. Earliest references (beginning in the 3rd century B.C.) suggested it was common knowledge that the Ark could still be viewed on Mount Ararat.
Reports over the past century range from visits to the vessel, to recovery of wooden timber, to aerial photographs. It is generally believed that at least large part of the Ark is intact, not on the highest peak, but somewhere above the 10,000 foot level. Apparently encased in snow and ice for most of the year, only during certain warm summers can the structure be witnessed or accessed. Some have spoken of climbing onto the roof, others say they have walked inside.
In the 1980s, "ark-eology" was given an air of respectability with the active participation of former NASA astronaut James Irwin in expeditions up the mountain. In addition, Ark investigation was also given a boost with the breakup of the former Soviet Union, because the mountain was right on the Turkey-Soviet border. Expeditions up the mountain had been considered a security threat by the Soviet government.
Unfortunately, return visits to proposed sites have produced no further evidence, the whereabouts of all photographs are presently unknown, and different sightings do not suggest the same location on the mountain. Furthermore, Astronaut James Irwin has since died, a purported eyewitness has recently recanted publicly, and there have been few new expeditions up the mountain in the 1990s. Further expeditions have taken place in the new millennium, but no proof of the Ark has yet been found.
But efforts are still ongoing. While the Associates for Biblical Research is not engaged in any of these efforts, we are aware of continued research into ancient reports, further testimony from eyewitnesses and renewed efforts to pinpoint the Ark's resting place. More expeditions are pending. If it's up there, we will certainly hear about it. -
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Does the Bible really claim that the Flood covered the ENTIRE Earth?
Nine Biblical Evidences that the Flood was Global
Some evangelical teachers today are claiming that Noah's flood did not cover the entire Earth nor all the mountains of the day. Further, they claim that Noah and the animals floated on a shallow, temporary inland sea caused by the flood, somehow covering only the Mesopotamian region. Thus, they must claim that the Earth's entire human population was limited to this area, or that not all humans were killed in the flood. Is there really biblical evidence for claims of this nature?
1. All The Mountains Were Covered. The tops of all the high mountains under the entire heavens were at least 20 feet beneath the waters surface (Genesis 7:19-20). It would be absurd to think that a flood covering the highest mountains of the Middle East would not affect the rest of the world. In addition, the waters remained at this awesome, mountain-covering height for five months! (Genesis 7:18-24, 8:1-5).
2. The Ark Was Huge. The ark was necessary to prevent the extinction of humans and animals. If the Flood were merely local, God could have sent them to a safer part of the world. God warned Noah about the Flood 120 years prior to its start. Surely, Noah and his family could have traveled a great distance in that time. Also, if the Flood was local, the ark was unnecessarily large. Until the first metal ships were constructed in modern times, the ark was the largest ship ever built. It was big enough to house representative pairs of every created-kind of air-breathing, land animal on Earth.
3. Humans Populated The Entire World. After more than 1600 years of habitation on Earth, the planet's population was surely large (millions or billions). The Bible confirms that (a) Man had multiplied upon the face of the Earth (Genesis 6:1), (b) Violence and corruption filled the Earth (Genesis 6:11-12). The Bible is clear that man could not have existed only in the Mesopotamian region - a region too small to support such a large population, especially considering the natural dispersion affect of a violent society.
4. All Humans Were Killed. The Bible clearly teaches that all flesh died...every man (Genesis 7:21). Genesis 9:1 confirms that only Noah's family was saved and that every person living today is descended from his family.
5. All Air-Breathing, Land Animals Killed. The world's entire population of air-breathing, land animals died, except those taken into the ark (Genesis 7:21) - "everything on Earth" (Genesis 6:17) - "all living creatures of every kind on the Earth" (Genesis 9:16). If only those animals in a specific geographic location died, it would seem unnecessary for God to protect pairs in the ark for the express purpose of preventing their extinction. Surely there would be representatives of their kinds in other areas. If, on the other hand, there were some unique kinds of animals in the local flood's path, then it would seem more logical for God to send representative pairs out of the area, rather than to the ark, as He did. The Bible is clear that all the air-breathing, land animals perished during the flood, except those preserved with Noah - from which all modern animals are descended.
6. A "Cataclysm," Not A Mere Flood. Both Hebrew (Old Testament) and Greek (New Testament) use words to describe Noah's flood which are different than the ordinary words for flood. In this way, Noah's flood was represented as a totally unique occurrence. [Hebrew / "Mabbool" - Greek / "Kataklusmos" (cataclysm)].
7. God's Rainbow Promise. God promised never again to send a global flood (Genesis 8:21, 9:8-17). This promise is demonstrated by the symbol of the rainbow, a sign for God's promise to all the Earth. The rainbow is a sign to every living creature, mankind and animals. If this promise was not made to all creatures on Earth, then God has broken His promise. Local floods have repeatedly killed hundreds and even thousands of humans and animals since Noah's time.
8. Why Stay In The Ark A Year?! Noah was in the ark for more than a year, not just 40 days (Genesis 8:14). 53 weeks is absurdly long to stay in the ark for a local flood since dry land would have been just over the horizon. After the flood waters had been going down for 4 months, the dove could still find no suitable ground (Genesis 8:9). This does not seem to fit the circumstances for a local flood in which the dove could fly to dry land. However, these situations are consistent if the Flood was global.
9. The Whole Earth Was Devastated. God said, "I am surely going to destroy both them (the people) and the Earth" (Genesis 6:13b). The global extent of the Flood is referred to more than 30 times in Genesis 6-9 alone! In Isaiah 54:9, God states, "I swore that the waters of Noah would never again cover the Earth." Peter delivered a clear global warning, confirming that God created the Earth, devastated it by the Flood, and will one day destroy it again by fire (2 Peter 3:5-7). Peter certainly did not mean that just a local area on Earth would be burned. Just as the Flood was global, so will be the final judgment.
The Bible specifically teaches that the Flood of Noah's time was global in extent and that all air-breathing, land animals and all humans were killed, except those saved in the Ark. How could the Bible be any more clear concerning the global nature of the Flood?! Or, if this was actually a local flood, how could the Bible have been any more misleading about its extent?! -
This guy found not only the ark, but read on and be amaze on his findings of the Ark of the Covenant
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How many people survived the greatest disaster of all times?
Today's news is often filled with terrible disasters which kill hundreds or even thousands of people. But, can you imagine a disaster so terrible that only 8 people in the whole world survived. Its true, Noah and his wife, his three sons, and their wives were the only people saved from the largest flood of all time.
The Bible tells of a great flood that covered the entire earth - the Flood described in Genesis.
This was the greatest disaster in history. Nothing else has even come close. The Flood waters rose above all the world's mountains and killed most of the air-breathing, land animals. It destroyed the entire surface of the earth.
Great supplies of water stored underground came bursting out. The earth's crust heaved and buckled unleashing terrible volcanic eruptions and massive earthquakes like the world has never seen before or since.
Rain poured out from dark, thundering skies in unending torrents. Waves of loosened earth and trees slid down hillsides burying plants by the thousands. All of the cities were totally destroyed. And so was God's Garden in Eden. For forty days the rains continued. And the waves continued to rise, fed by vast amounts of underground water which used to feed the rivers and springs of the world, including the Garden in the land of Eden.
Under the pressure of this worldwide disaster, the earth shook again and again causing huge tsunami waves to sweep across the sinking land. So great was the destruction that every human being died and with them, millions of animals and plants.
The only people spared were Noah's faithful family. According to God's instructions, Noah built a great barge-shaped boat to save his family and thousands of animals to be used to refill the earth. God protected this precious ship and its passengers throughout the disaster which lasted over one year.
When the destruction was finished, peace slowly began to return to the earth. Eventually, the waters dropped to a level safe enough for Noah and his family to leave the Ark on dry ground. -
during Noah's time, that rain that brought the flood was the first time in history it rained.
how and what might have caused such a huge rain to happen out of the sudden? -
because havent rain for very long timeOriginally posted by starblue:during Noah's time, that rain that brought the flood was the first time in history it rained.
how and what might have caused such a huge rain to happen out of the sudden? -
one flaw in the story. where did that huge amount of water come from and where did it go?
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but God made the water "fall" on the surface of the earth as dew and mist. why suddenly changing watering technique?Originally posted by crazy monkey:because havent rain for very long time -
astronomy has an answer to that... although i doubt very much anyone's interested, or would believe it.Originally posted by skyfoo:one flaw in the story. where did that huge amount of water come from and where did it go? -
Where did the human races come from?
http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/race-definition.html
According to the Bible, all humans on earth today are descended from Noah and his wife, his three sons and their wives, and before that from Adam and Eve (Genesis 1-11). But today we have many different groups, often called "races," with what seem to be greatly differing features. The most obvious of these is skin color. Many see this as a reason to doubt the Bible's record of history. They believe that the various groups could have arisen only by evolving separately over tens of thousands of years. However, as we shall see, this does not follow from the biological evidence.
The Bible tells us how the population that descended from Noah's family had one language and by living in one place were disobeying God's command to "fill the earth" (Genesis 9:1, 11:4). God confused their language, causing a break-up of the population into smaller groups which scattered over the earth (Genesis 11:8-9). Modern genetics show how, following such a break-up of a population, variations in skin color, for example, can develop in only a few generations. There is good evidence that the various people groups we have today have not been separated for huge periods of time.1 -
stored as ice in AntarticarOriginally posted by skyfoo:one flaw in the story. where did that huge amount of water come from and where did it go? -
just tell us. i'll be very objectiveOriginally posted by starblue:astronomy has an answer to that... although i doubt very much anyone's interested, or would believe it. -
say leh me interested in astronomyOriginally posted by starblue:astronomy has an answer to that... although i doubt very much anyone's interested, or would believe it. -
y do we have to find the ark? Does it contains valuables or diamonds? I did not read the story abt noah ark b4
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i dun believe tat how long will it take to build such a ark? the design n manpower come from where?
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there are basically two theories.Originally posted by skyfoo:just tell us. i'll be very objective
one, a huge outer space object fell to the earth's surface, bringing along with it large amounts of water in the form of ice. that is how water came to be on earth anyway, says astronomers. cos earth is a rocky planet that is formed when heavier metals and silicate condensed out of interstellar materials. so water couldnt have been on primitive earth. it has to be brought in by something. (one problem with this theory is that water ice can only reach earth's surface if earth does not have a thick atmosphere to "burn up" all the water. but if earth has no atmosphere then, Noah wouldn't have been there.)
second, huge amounts of water (H20) was suddenly and spontaneously formed from i cant remember what astronomical event... think it's got to do with a sudden change in earth's magnetic field or something.... -
that is why Noah and his family used 120 years to build it.Originally posted by RaTtY81:i dun believe tat how long will it take to build such a ark? the design n manpower come from where? -
There are too many theories and camps regarding Creationism.
Adamic dispensation.
How to finish the discussion....
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den the latter part of my qn? that amount water cant evaporate within one yr right. even so, through water cycle, shldnt the water can processed into other forms and i dont see it presentlyOriginally posted by starblue:there are basically two theories.
one, a huge outer space object fell to the earth's surface, bringing along with it large amounts of water in the form of ice. that is how water came to be on earth anyway, says astronomers. cos earth is a rocky planet that is formed when heavier metals and silicate condensed out of interstellar materials. so water couldnt have been on primitive earth. it has to be brought in by something. (one problem with this theory is that water ice can only reach earth's surface if earth does not have a thick atmosphere to "burn up" all the water. but if earth has no atmosphere then, Noah wouldn't have been there.)
second, huge amounts of water (H20) was suddenly and spontaneously formed from i cant remember what astronomical event... think it's got to do with a sudden change in earth's magnetic field or something.... -
hmm den they successfully built it in 1 attempt? no prototype? they nvr think that whether it float or sink? where to get those wood, nails, mask,\ n necessary materials? den how long they took to collect those animals? did they preduade the dino on board the ark? paiseh alot of qnsOriginally posted by starblue:that is why Noah and his family used 120 years to build it. -
But do you agree that the human species come from one source?Originally posted by crazy monkey:Where did the human races come from?
http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/race-definition.html
According to the Bible, all humans on earth today are descended from Noah and his wife, his three sons and their wives, and before that from Adam and Eve (Genesis 1-11). But today we have many different groups, often called "races," with what seem to be greatly differing features. The most obvious of these is skin color. Many see this as a reason to doubt the Bible's record of history. They believe that the various groups could have arisen only by evolving separately over tens of thousands of years. However, as we shall see, this does not follow from the biological evidence.
The Bible tells us how the population that descended from Noah's family had one language and by living in one place were disobeying God's command to "fill the earth" (Genesis 9:1, 11:4). God confused their language, causing a break-up of the population into smaller groups which scattered over the earth (Genesis 11:8-9). Modern genetics show how, following such a break-up of a population, variations in skin color, for example, can develop in only a few generations. There is good evidence that the various people groups we have today have not been separated for huge periods of time.1
Even the Genographic Project's findings points towards that direction, i.e. humans evolved from one point source. -
erm.... actually, i do not agree much on the astronomical theories about noah's flood. because the basic crux is that the water brought into earth became collected in the oceans. but the bible says that the oceans (rivers, actually) existed when man was formed.Originally posted by skyfoo:den the latter part of my qn? that amount water cant evaporate within one yr right. even so, through water cycle, shldnt the water can processed into other forms and i dont see it presently
anyway, the water cycle thing began only after Noah.. like i said, there wasnt rain in the old days. -
hmm africa?Originally posted by sillyme:But do you agree that the human species come from one source?
Even the Genographic Project's findings points towards that direction, i.e. humans evolved from one point source.