Your diamond is (most prob) FAKE~!!!

• Mr Fugue

  6 Dec 05, 14:21

  below pix: a boule of synthetic ruby created by flame fusion method (at top) with cut samples (at bottom)
  
  
  Synthetic (or "created") gemstones are grown in a laboratory instead of being formed in the ground by nature. They are physically and chemically identical to natural-grown gems but cost much less to produce and to buy.
  
  Just like natural gems, synthetics vary tremendously in quality. Using low-quality processes, synthetic sapphires and rubies can be created for less than a dollar a carat, whereas high-quality (or "luxury") synthetics can cost a hundred times more to create and sell for several hundred dollars a carat at retail.
  
  METHODS TO CREATE SYNTHETIC GEMSTONES:
  
  Flame Fusion Method The first technology utilized for growing gemstones in a laboratory, flame fusion is still very widely used to create rubies, sapphires, and spinel. It's inexpensive, but yields low quality gems. These created gems are often used in "class rings" and cheap jewelry found in discount stores. It's relatively easy for any competent jeweler to detect synthetics created by flame fusion methods because the "dripped" molten material forms "growth striae" (thin, narrow grooves) as it hardens
  
  Pulled-Growth Czochralski pulled-growth is also commonly used to create rubies, sapphires, and spinel. It's a more complex and costly method, and creates better gems than flame fusion.
  
  Still, both these methods yield gems of questionable quality. Because they use very high temperatures, it is difficult for manufacturers to achieve uniform color (particularly in rubies and blue sapphires). The mechanical action of melting and reforming crystals introduces non-uniformities in the gems, which scatter light and give the stone a "dead" look - like a piece of colored glass.
  
  Flux Method In addition to creating the "big three" (emerald, ruby, and sapphire), the flux method is used to grow spinel and alexandrite. This method uses a supersaturated chemical bath to form the crystals. Flux Method or Flux Fusion - not to be confused with Flame Fusion - creates the highest quality and most expensive synthetic corundum (rubies and sapphires).
  
  Hydrothermal Method High quality emerald, as well as the less common aquamarine, morganite, and beryl, can be lab grown by the hydrothermal method. It uses a water solution at very high temperature and pressure and takes several months to create a batch of gems. That's one of the reasons higher quality created gems cost so much more.
• Mr Fugue

  6 Dec 05, 14:24

  that is why I dun buy gemstones.
  
  any ladies still want to buy??
• SMAPLionHeart

  6 Dec 05, 14:26

  Originally posted by Mr Fugue:

  that is why I dun buy gemstones.
  
  any ladies still want to buy??

  jessie sae she wans diamonds
  
  
• jeg

  6 Dec 05, 14:26

  Thanks for the warning!
  
  Everyone STOP BUYING GEMS! OH NOOOOO!!! ITS ALL FAKE !!!
  
  
• Mr Fugue

  6 Dec 05, 14:27

  These created gems are often used in "class rings" and cheap jewelry found in discount stores.

  Muahahahahahahhaha~!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  I've always seen many ladies at those ''common'' jewellery shops............ my condolences to them.
• Mr Fugue

  6 Dec 05, 14:28

  Originally posted by jeg:

  Thanks for the warning!
  
  Everyone STOP BUYING GEMS! OH NOOOOO!!! ITS ALL FAKE !!!
  
  

  you mean, NOW THEN you know??
• SMAPLionHeart

  6 Dec 05, 14:29

  Originally posted by Mr Fugue:

  Muahahahahahahhaha~!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  I've always seen many ladies at those ''common'' jewellery shops............ my condolences to them.

  diamonds and gold are classified as a valuable resource
  as for dzi beads , it's questionable leh~!!!!!!!!!!!!!
• jeg

  6 Dec 05, 14:29

  YEAH MAN OH SHIT!
  
  Looks like my cupboard full of gems and some more sitting around at the balcony near the fountain could all be made in the labs... OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......
  
  
• Mr Fugue

  6 Dec 05, 14:32

  Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:

  diamonds and gold are classified as a valuable resource

  yes, but synthetic ones are very cheap to manufacture and they sell at a much more higher retail price.

  as for dzi beads , it's questionable leh~!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  dzi beads I also know got fake and fake ones are easy to tell for someone like me. cannot fool me.
  
  but so far, no one can produce dzi beads that look like ancient dzi beads.
• jeg

  6 Dec 05, 14:33

  You should get yourself a PHD on dzi beads
• Mr Fugue

  6 Dec 05, 14:34

  Originally posted by jeg:

  You should get yourself a PHD on dzi beads

  when you ''play'' around long enough with ancient dzi, you'll know how one looks like.
  
  the thing with synthetic gemstones is........... no one can tell, not even the experts~!!
• pqr

  6 Dec 05, 14:36

  Originally posted by Mr Fugue:

  that is why I dun buy gemstones.
  
  any ladies still want to buy??

  I wonder then will those certifcate prove is REALLY real ?
  
  What is ur view Mr Fugue?
• Mr Fugue

  6 Dec 05, 14:39

  Originally posted by pqr:

  I wonder then will those certifcate prove is REALLY real ?
  
  What is ur view Mr Fugue?

  chemical and mineral composition of synthetic gemstones is the same as natural ones.
  
  so which means, physical properties like hardness and specific gravity is also the same.
  
  very hard to tell, even with a laboratory ceritificate/result.
• snop_coolz

  6 Dec 05, 14:39

  just buy lab 1 lar..since its almost the same..dont waste money goin for real..
• Mr Fugue

  6 Dec 05, 14:41

  Originally posted by snop_coolz:

  just buy lab 1 lar..since its almost the same..dont waste money goin for real..

  erm, synthetic gemstones only cost a few dollars to manufacture while you pay hundreds or even thousands of dollars for it~!!
  
  that isn't very clever, you know.
• snop_coolz

  6 Dec 05, 14:47

  thats wat i m saying..buy the fake/cheap 1...since it look the same...
• Mr Fugue

  6 Dec 05, 14:49

  Originally posted by snop_coolz:

  thats wat i m saying..buy the fake/cheap 1...since it look the same...

  then, buy directly from the manufacturer loh.
  
  in retail shops, you have to pay at least a 3-figure for something that cost $1 to manufacture.
• snop_coolz

  6 Dec 05, 14:51

  nope..i buy in bulk then sell to the retail shop at $50 or sell at pasar malam $30 one $.$
• Mr Fugue

  6 Dec 05, 14:53

  Originally posted by snop_coolz:

  nope..i buy in bulk then sell to the retail shop at $50 or sell at pasar malam $30 one $.$

  hey~!!
  
  that's a good way to make money from those gullible people~!!
• SMAPLionHeart

  6 Dec 05, 14:56

  people who can't afford synthetic diamonds will say that synthetic diamonds are useless
  
  cannot eat grape say grape sour
  
  
• Mr Fugue

  6 Dec 05, 14:57

  aiyoh, why should I waste a few dollars for some fake gemstones lehz??
• snop_coolz

  6 Dec 05, 14:59

  but u buy all these jewel for wat..ultimately still to jio zar bo only wat..dont tell me u buy to wear spend so much on something real..might as well buy fake 1 then cheaper..if break up ur jewel also gone leh..
• Mr Fugue

  6 Dec 05, 15:00

  Originally posted by snop_coolz:

  but u buy all these jewel for wat..ultimately still to jio zar bo only wat..dont tell me u buy to wear spend so much on something real..might as well buy fake 1 then cheaper..if break up ur jewel also gone leh..

  hanor, hanor.
  
  next time, your gf birthday, you just spend a few dollars on a gemstone for her, telling her it cost $1000++.
  
  she'll be sure to go over the moon one~!!
• snop_coolz

  6 Dec 05, 15:04

  lol...but she find out fake u also die die..there is a risk
• Mr Fugue

  6 Dec 05, 15:05

  Originally posted by snop_coolz:

  lol...but she find out fake u also die die..there is a risk

  insist that it's real (since cannot prove) + some honey words.
  
  gals very easy to please one.