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the usaOriginally posted by dragg:northwind,
which country are you from?
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Yeah right, take time to know white trash like you? No thanks. Maybe I should say "go back from where you come from". What high horse I talking about? From the way you wrote about your unemployed status - as though we did you so wrong, as though every word you said was the truth. Geez get real, moron ....Originally posted by Northwind:Ang moh like me? You dont even know me. What high horse, moron? I have zero money, no job, no family, no friends, and waaaay too many people "like you" who dont take the time to know the truth about someone - but just treat them because of their skin color. Where the hell is the area to be on high horse??? Ang moh like me....English lessons...lmao...try again... -
I read your first post Northwind. Evidently, you are either living in your own world or plain stupid. All I can say is "Get real grip of this world and not the other way round."Originally posted by Northwind:LOL!!!!
You are not racist and do not condone it, right? LOL!!!
Evidently you didn't read my first post...
Where am I giving lessons? Simply because you twisted my word to make it look like I was giving an insult, and it didnt work?
Of course you have no sympathy - I have done much wrong to you...(sarcasm)...
I can just go back to my country izzit? Okay, buy me an airplane ticket. Buy me a home to live in over there, and find me a job. Otherwise, talk about things with truth please. Don't even try to incite people - you are trying to make it Singapore vs. the ang moh. Get a clue and learn more that people do not fit nicely into boxes that you have stereotyped...
Simple and clear Northwind. You can't get job here in Sg because you don't have the skill employers want. It is not Racism you facing.
Buy you an airplane ticket? We local say wait long long for ppl like you. Oh yes you can crawl or swim back Mr for all we care.
Oh, the same song again. You can't get job and we sterotyping you? Put you in a box? Get real man whiner like you won't make it here in Sg or for this matter anywhere in this world. -
Tell me how and why I am white trash, Mr. "I don't condone racism"?Originally posted by pat33:Yeah right, take time to know white trash like you? No thanks. Maybe I should say "go back from where you come from". What high horse I talking about? From the way you wrote about your unemployed status - as though we did you so wrong. Geez get real, moron ....
Yeah - you can say "go back where I came from". Does it bother me? Yes, of course. But I doubt its the reasons your mind could come up with...I will have to learn how to deal with that.
The way I wrote about my unemployed status - as thought "we" did you so wrong...- You get real moron. You are trying again to do the Singapore vs. Ang moh thing. How many other people do you see in the forum backing you up? Me accusing Singaporeans people as a whole of anything? I have never said anything of the sort. My finger is only pointing at you "my friend." You're the one who is blindly racist, yet saying you're not, and yet calling me "trash" for what reason, may I ask? What wrong have I done you? None. -
Lol...Me get a grip? Tell me how ANY of what I said in that first post is incorrect.Originally posted by pat33:I read your first post Northwind. Evidently, you are either living in your own world or plain stupid. All I can say is "Get real grip of this world and not the other way round."
LMAO...Riiight bruddah...I never said I was having difficulty in my job search due to racism...Originally posted by pat33:Simple and clear Northwind. You can't get job here in Sg because you don't have the skill employers want. It is not Racism you facing.
You know what local say for ppl like you? Racist ignorant fool. I say that too. People like me? Describe people like me - or is it too difficult for you?Originally posted by pat33:Buy you an airplane ticket? We local say wait long long for ppl like you. Oh yes you can crawl or swim back Mr for all we care.
Look at you trying the "We" thing again...pittiful
LMAO...same song for you...Grow up and realize people are unique...Originally posted by pat33:Oh, the same song again. You can't get job and we sterotyping you? Put you in a box? Get real man whiner like you won't make it here in Sg or for this matter anywhere in this world.
Whiner? Lmao.....
When you do happen to grow up, let "us" know... -
do they have cases of gender issues in usaa alsoOriginally posted by Northwind:Racism does exist everywhere. In the usa it does exist. But you will not find this extreme of ads in the papers, etc. Most of it is only in history - but old small towns, you can still find ignorance, like you find here.
Democracy is not Enlightenment....And neither word has anything to do with racism...However I don't see that defending racism by saying it is everywhere is a good thing...Let's just try to have a little more heart and see every person as a person with unique traits, and value them for who they are.
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Me doing a Singapore vs Ang Mo? Who you think your are, so important that we have to do you in? Just Because I call you a white trash means I am for racism? Get real you stupid falla. I did not said all white are trash but YOU. Did I said you are accusing Singaporean as a whole? Yeah putting words in the mouth of ppl is your forte, isn't it? MoronOriginally posted by Northwind:Tell me how and why I am white trash, Mr. "I don't condone racism"?
Yeah - you can say "go back where I came from". Does it bother me? Yes, of course. But I doubt its the reasons your mind could come up with...I will have to learn how to deal with that.
The way I wrote about my unemployed status - as thought "we" did you so wrong...- You get real moron. You are trying again to do the Singapore vs. Ang moh thing. How many other people do you see in the forum backing you up? Me accusing Singaporeans people as a whole of anything? I have never said anything of the sort. My finger is only pointing at you "my friend." You're the one who is blindly racist, yet saying you're not, and yet calling me "trash" for what reason, may I ask? What wrong have I done you? None. -
In the past, yes. But none that I know of for the past 30 or so years. I've heard of one or two isolated cases, but it's not like ads in the paper or anything - probably some small "redneck" town. In the big cities, you're guaranteed not to have any such cases like that.Originally posted by ha8n:Do they have cases of gender issues in usaa also -
So you now saying that you can't find job in sg because you don't have the skill employers want. Admit it if you are man enough.
LMAO...Riiight bruddah...I never said I was having difficulty in my job search due to racism...
So exposing you mean ppl like me is racist. So we must quietly hide while you rant and rave about Sg. You get real, moron......
You know what local say for ppl like you? Racist ignorant fool. I say that too. People like me? Describe people like me - or is it too difficult for you?
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I think ignoring you is my best option at this point...Foolish children were meant to be treated that way.Originally posted by pat33:Me doing a Singapore vs Ang Mo? Who you think your are, so important that we have to do you in? Just Because I call you a white trash means I am for racism? Get real you stupid falla. I did not said all white are trash but YOU. Did I said you are accusing Singaporean as a whole? Yeah putting words in the mouth of ppl is your forte, isn't it? Moron -
thats y also heard there quite equalOriginally posted by Northwind:In the past, yes. But none that I know of for the past 30 or so years. I've heard of one or two isolated cases, but it's not like ads in the paper or anything - probably some small "redneck" town. In the big cities, you're guaranteed not to have any such cases like that. -
If your profile says you born in 1972, I am older than you Northwind. You were sperm swimming in your you-know-what while I was seeing and walking in this world. I see and know more thing than you man.Originally posted by Northwind:I think ignoring you is my best option at this point...Foolish children were meant to be treated that way. -
aiyo , pat >> every1 has their views so cool down , btw which profession ur inOriginally posted by pat33:If your profile says you born in 1972, I am older than you Northwind. You were sperm swimming in your You know-what while I was seeing and walking in this world. I see and know more thing than you man. 
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Yes, you know much more, and are proving it with your empty insults.Originally posted by pat33:If your profile says you born in 1972, I am older than you Northwind. You were sperm swimming in your you-know-what while I was seeing and walking in this world. I see and know more thing than you man. -
Rant and rave about singapore, is it? lol...Originally posted by pat33:So exposing you mean ppl like me is racist. So we must quietly hide while you rant and rave about Sg. You get real, moron......
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Eh, discrimination doesnt always mean racism. There are positive discrimination and negative discrimination. Positive like racial quota in HDB flats from a social point of view, negative like choosing employees based on race. So I don't discrimination is that bad.
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if that is the case then you should drop the whole issue and cool it man.Originally posted by pat33:If your profile says you born in 1972, I am older than you Northwind. You were sperm swimming in your you-know-what while I was seeing and walking in this world. I see and know more thing than you man. -
So I see you can't sleep last night and have to get up early to shoot from you mouth? LOLOriginally posted by Northwind:Rant and rave about singapore, is it? lol...
Exposing what, silly child?
I'm not a white-hater by the way you put it. What I don't like about you is the way you come here and twist Sg about being racism, stereotyping, apathy discrimination etc just because you can't get job here?
You may not believe this but I read each and every word in your first posting, including the tone and texture of your post. Then your background became clear to me.
Your case is one where you can't get job here in Sg not because of racism, sterotyping, apathy, discrimination etc. Yeah blame others for your failure. You can't get job here simply because you don't have the skill sets employers here looking for.
I can go on and on with silly fella like you but it just a waste of my time. Maybe now you may not agree with me. Come back here maybe in a month or two and read this statement again. Maybe by then you see the truth in what I said. -
So I see you can't sleep last night and have to get up early to shoot from you mouth? LOLOriginally posted by Northwind:Rant and rave about singapore, is it? lol...
Exposing what, silly child?
I'm not a white-hater by the way you put it. What I don't like about you is the way you come here and twist Sg about being racism, stereotyping, apathy discrimination etc just because you can't get job here?
You may not believe this but I read each and every word in your first posting, including the tone and texture of your post. Then your background became clear to me.
Your case is one where you can't get job here in Sg not because of racism, sterotyping, apathy, discrimination etc. Yeah blame others for your failure. You can't get job here simply because you don't have the skill sets employers here looking for.
I can go on and on with silly fella like you but it just a waste of my time. Maybe now you may not agree with me. Come back here maybe in a month or two and read this statement again. Maybe by then you see the truth in what I said. -
So I see you can't sleep last night and have to get up early to shoot from you mouth? LOLOriginally posted by Northwind:Rant and rave about singapore, is it? lol...
Exposing what, silly child?
I'm not a white-hater by the way you put it. What I don't like about you is the way you come here and twist Sg about being racism, stereotyping, apathy discrimination etc just because you can't get job here?
You may not believe this but I read each and every word in your first posting, including the tone and texture of your post. Then your background became clear to me.
Your case is one where you can't get job here in Sg not because of racism, sterotyping, apathy, discrimination etc. Yeah blame others for your failure. You can't get job here simply because you don't have the skill sets employers here looking for.
I can go on and on with silly fella like you but it just a waste of my time. Maybe now you may not agree with me. Come back here maybe in a month or two and read this statement again. Maybe by then you see the truth in what I said. -
Wah...3 posts onli ??? mebe nxt time try 4 or 5 more power!Originally posted by pat33:So I see you can't sleep last night and have to get up early to shoot from you mouth? LOL...................
Dude...You're a riot...No, really...What do you hope to achieve with your endless lunacy? Think I'm gonna go sit in the corner and cry? Think again bruddah... Anyway, post some more, and have fun, Junior! -
From The New Paper:
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He deals with Chinese nationals but says...
I never needed Chinese in my work
On 26 Dec, we ran a report on whether not knowing Mandarin can cost you a job. Readers respond
By Shree Ann Mathavan
December 30, 2005
MR ALVIN Ho (right), 40, is a business development manager in an IT company. He failed his Mandarin in school.
Mr Alvin Ho.
But he doesn't have to use Chinese at work.
The Chinese nationals he deals with usually understand English.
'Unless the company intends to send a successful job applicant to China for an extended working stint of three to six months or longer, I would say there is probably no need to understand Chinese while working in Singapore.'
He added that many Chinese want to learn to speak English as they know it is the only way to improve their grasp of this international language of commerce.
Mr Ho was among many readers, both Chinese and non-Chinese, who responded to The New Paper's 26 Dec report, I Put Bosses To The Test.
The gist of it: Do job advertisements which mention Mandarin skills as a requirement discriminate against non-Chinese Singaporeans looking for work?
The New Paper sent me, a non-Chinese, to 'test the waters' by applying for jobs which had Mandarin as a requirement.
TOUCHED A RAW NERVE
Reporter Shree Ann (left), asking Ms Cynthia Yeo, manager of a travel agency, whether knowledge of Mandarin was a job requirement, for her Boxing Day report.
We decided to do the story after letters on job discrimination appeared in the press.
This was followed by several political and community leaders, among them Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and labour chief Lim Boon Heng, cautioning employers not to use Mandarin to discriminate against applicants if the job did not require such language skills.
For a few readers, the subject touched a raw nerve.
One thing was clear: Whatever stand they took, no one was sitting on the fence.
Some non-Chinese readers wrote in with examples of how race was involved when some firms hire workers.
Ms Kamaleswari Balakrishnan, 29, who can speak Mandarin, has been looking for a clerical job for the past six months.
She said administrative work involved mainly English, yet the employers asked her if she was Chinese and rejected her when she said no.
She wrote: 'What potential employers ask is: 'Are you Chinese?' They fail to see my skills and potential for the job.
'I have told many employers I can speak Mandarin, and I have even been put to the test. But, eventually, they wanted a Chinese, as in race, not someone who can speak the language.'
Another reader, Ms Niza Hamzah, who has had a similar experience, said: 'We live in a multi-racial society where English is important.'
Other readers shared their positive experience in predominantly Chinese workplaces.
One of them, Mr Muhammad Putra, 17, a graphics designer at Pearl Centre who often designs and prints materials in Chinese, which he does not understand. His customers, mainly Chinese nationals, have helped him.
'For example, they were willing to write down both the Chinese character and its hanyu pinyin pronunciation to help me type out the characters.'
He said he was lucky that his employers looked at his abilities, not his race.
A few said some bosses were justified in looking for Chinese speakers for certain jobs.
Mr Tan Ying, 61, a retiree, wrote: 'Some bosses really need to employ someone who can speak a little Chinese so that they can please their Chinese customers, especially those from Hong Kong, Taiwan or China.'
'It is easier to clinch business contracts.'
Mr Koh Juan Kiat, 53, from the String not found, STYL = STYL.INL, PC = 3B33 Singapore National Employers Federation, said that mentioning language abilities in ads are 'legitimate requirements for the job'.
'Language abilities like English, Mandarin, Malay, Japanese, Korean to handle customers, or for developing businesses in specific countries are business requirements.'
Madam Halimah Yacob, 51, NTUC assistant secretary-general, said recently that when bosses ask for knowledge of Mandarin in jobs that do not require it, people can become resentful and view the requirement as discriminatory.
EDUCATE EMPLOYERS
On employers who discriminate based on race, she said publicising such cases can help correct the situation.
'We need to educate employers that all forms of discrimination, whether on the basis of race, religion, gender, or age is bad for business as it deprives them of the best person for the job,' she said.
Madam Halimah added that racial discrimination was not a major problem in Singapore.