i feel that many argue here only for the sake of arguing, sometimes we all need to sit down and think/talk in a cool and rationale way, indeed, many people have different opinions and there will always be conflicting beliefs. therefore in order to win a contest of beliefs, the only way is to present ur thoughts clearly and be articulative. please try not to bash either party as this will serve to make this session degenerate into a useless shouting match.
i am sure many people have witness a debate before, have u ever wonder how is it that, with odds against them, a team can win over the panel and spellbound the audience? i'm pretty sure this is food for thought...
taking my hat off heng@ because he/she seems to be the only person standing up to whoever he/she represents, it may not reflect my thoughts, but he/she has done a good job despite she overtly hash words