Butch and lesbian. any difference?

• PriscillaTang

  27 Jan 06, 06:30

  Gender/Sex topics always attract so many comments. sigh..
• leilan84

  27 Jan 06, 07:19

  Originally posted by HENG@:
  
  thats a very funny accusation to level against me after saying something like "im worried for the future"
  
  seriously, how much more rubbish an excuse can u give me?
  
  And yea i AM heated. Why? Because the one thing i believe in most is under attack by people like u. Whats that one thing?
  
  [b]JUSTICE[/b]

  crap.
• HENG@

  27 Jan 06, 07:55

  Originally posted by leilan84:

  crap.

  talking about yourself?
• leilan84

  27 Jan 06, 10:03

  Originally posted by HENG@:
  
  thats a very funny accusation to level against me after saying something like "im worried for the future"
  
  seriously, how much more rubbish an excuse can u give me?
  
  And yea i AM heated. Why? Because the one thing i believe in most is under attack by people like u. Whats that one thing?
  
  [b]JUSTICE[/b]

  where is the excuse? where is the attack?
  
  why do you keep on thinking that i'm attacking when you're the one doing so?
  did i ever say anything like i hate gay/les? yes? no?
  
  just curious, you know what's moral?
  
• HENG@

  27 Jan 06, 10:38

  Originally posted by leilan84:

  where is the excuse? where is the attack?
  
  why do you keep on thinking that i'm attacking when you're the one doing so?
  did i ever say anything like i hate gay/les? yes? no?
  
  just curious, you know what's moral?
  

  if there is no intention of attack, whats the point of saying this?
  
  "is it going to ripe any fruits at all?
  love between the same sex?
  
  haiz... "
  
  like, u think we didn't know that? u also think that there won't be enough straight people to continue reproducing?
  
  seriously, if u got nothing against them, why say something like that?
  
  and yes i know what's moral. I know its immoral to discriminate against others just because they are different.
• leilan84

  27 Jan 06, 12:41

  Originally posted by HENG@:

  if there is no intention of attack, whats the point of saying this?
  
  "is it going to ripe any fruits at all?
  love between the same sex?
  
  haiz... "
  
  like, u think we didn't know that? u also think that there won't be enough straight people to continue reproducing?
  
  seriously, if u got nothing against them, why say something like that?
  
  and yes i know what's moral. I know its immoral to discriminate against others just because they are different.

  if ever i discriminate others, should i be nasty like you did when i'm typing my reply? pls watch your words and tone
• HENG@

  27 Jan 06, 13:02

  Originally posted by leilan84:

  if ever i discriminate others, should i be nasty like you did when i'm typing my reply? pls watch your words and tone

  u've already been fairly nasty by pointing out a fact which we all know, and which is not significant in contribution to the argument is it? Like im asking u, whats the point? Up till now u still can't answer, and need to shoot off on all different sorts of angles to avoid answering
  
  Or maybe u weren't thinking? Then maybe u shouldn't be telling me to watch my words.
• PriscillaTang

  27 Jan 06, 15:52

  leilan84 seldom pass his/her essays cuz they are usually off-topic. Btw, you asked HENG@ if he knows what is moral? If everyone in the world has the same definition of morals, we wouldn't be in this heated debate now, would we? Morals can never be defined. It's just based on one's self thinking of what is morals so don't go questioning others what morals is.
  
  P.S leilan84: You sure you're 22? Hmm...
• JennTS

  27 Jan 06, 15:59

  Originally posted by xinyi!:

  Butch and lesbian. any difference?

  this is the most retarded question i've ever seen or heard.
• M©+square

  27 Jan 06, 16:01

  Originally posted by JennTS:

  this is the most retarded question i've ever seen or heard.

  I'm sure you haven't seen the rest of her/his threads.
• leilan84

  27 Jan 06, 18:21

  Originally posted by HENG@:
  
  u've already been fairly nasty by pointing out a fact which we all know, and which is not significant in contribution to the argument is it? Like im asking u, whats the point? Up till now u still can't answer, and need to shoot off on all different sorts of angles to avoid answering
  
  Or maybe u weren't thinking? Then maybe u shouldn't be telling me to watch my words.

  so you agree that it is a fact that i've pointed out
• HENG@

  27 Jan 06, 22:20

  Originally posted by leilan84:

  so you agree that it is a fact that i've pointed out

  no doubt is a fact, but its a very insignificant one. If u're using it on the pretext of saying u're worried for the future, that is just lame, because we know there will always be both straight and gay people in this world, so WHY should it matter that they can't produce offspring?
  
  Indeed, many of them will adopt, and give abandoned children (abandoned by heartless STRAIGHT people no less ) a chance to grow up in a loving family.
  
  So u are STILL avoiding the question. Whats the point u're trying to make in pointing it out? Thats quite obviously discrimination of some sort isn't it?
• Nelstar

  31 Jan 06, 01:42

  Originally posted by iveco:

  At least Britain allowed civil union between same-sex couples. Kudos to them.

  The problem is, civil union is against spiritual beliefs. May result in disruptive towards religious harmony.
  
  
• iveco

  31 Jan 06, 13:13

  Originally posted by Nelstar:

  The problem is, civil union is against spiritual beliefs. May result in disruptive towards religious harmony.
  
  

  If it harm no one, do what you will.
  
  I don't see how gay marriage can harm others. After all, it involves the union of two persons who are truly in love.
  
  As for religious harmony, it can be achieved when the world embraces Wicca as the main belief system.
• sinicker

  31 Jan 06, 13:16

  butches are ugly. lesbians are hot.
• leo-kun

  31 Jan 06, 13:22

  i think they are both sick!
  
• nana13

  31 Jan 06, 13:47

  aiya. care so much for wad.
  i think butches are those nt tt lesbian..
  lesbians are those TRULY like gals only...
  aiya. acty no diff de lor.
  any butches here ?
• knnbeh

  31 Jan 06, 20:35

  well, just wonder if they have try the "Real" thing before they decide to try something else??
  
  
• so_what

  31 Jan 06, 21:18

  i would say butch wants to be a man but not confidence for the sex change yet can appear like a man outside. Lesbian just simply likes woman. I have heard that either butch or lesbian they are quite loyal - i mean although they like woman, they only have ONE partner !
  
  Ask urself wat's the difference between transvetite and gays?
• hyperactivechatterbox

  31 Jan 06, 21:29

  Originally posted by sinicker:

  butches are ugly. lesbians are hot.

  
• FBI

  31 Jan 06, 21:53

  Originally posted by M©+square:

  I'm sure you haven't seen the rest of her/his threads.

  she often post topics and don reply it. Sometimes yes a few times
• tt3

  31 Jan 06, 21:57

  les still ok... at least can c 2 chio bu (usually...) 2gether... still ok... but u c butch n a gal (usually chio oso....) 2gether... damn wat leh... e butch act like guy... c liao feel like slappin them...
• HENG@

  31 Jan 06, 22:40

  Originally posted by tt3:

  les still ok... at least can c 2 chio bu (usually...) 2gether... still ok... but u c butch n a gal (usually chio oso....) 2gether... damn wat leh... e butch act like guy... c liao feel like slappin them...

  ya n when i see guys acting like perverts here and else where, i also feel like slapping them. so what?
  
  come on man guys, u really think U are that much better? U behave worse. U want to cast the 1st stone, make sure u're beyond reproach, or else u can just F*ck off.
• HENG@

  31 Jan 06, 22:44

  for guys here, i will be very brutally honest. u like lesbians because they're both visually appealing to you, and i bet many of u fantasize about having a 3some with lesbians, and being the hero who turns then "straight" again.
  
  u hate butches because they're not visually appealing to u, they compete with u for women, and because they break free of traditional gender roles and can be who they want to be.
  
  In reality, u're just hating them because u're thinking with your COCK, not your brains. Thats what everything is about for men isn't it? Everything is just about sex.
• htc

  31 Jan 06, 23:47

  i feel that many argue here only for the sake of arguing, sometimes we all need to sit down and think/talk in a cool and rationale way, indeed, many people have different opinions and there will always be conflicting beliefs. therefore in order to win a contest of beliefs, the only way is to present ur thoughts clearly and be articulative. please try not to bash either party as this will serve to make this session degenerate into a useless shouting match.
  i am sure many people have witness a debate before, have u ever wonder how is it that, with odds against them, a team can win over the panel and spellbound the audience? i'm pretty sure this is food for thought...
  taking my hat off heng@ because he/she seems to be the only person standing up to whoever he/she represents, it may not reflect my thoughts, but he/she has done a good job despite she overtly hash words