Is studying for degree worth it?
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Just concentrate on ur studies first , If u are thinking too much now, does it helps? get a good degree, 1st class honour or 2nd class. Company will hunt for u and send u for further course and it's not big problem to earn big bucks.
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this is true for most private sectors. but of course, pay scale wld be lower for a dip holder if compared to a deg holder of the same position.Originally posted by BillGates:Got a fren who keeps telling me that diploma and degree is the same for engineering.
He added that company would prefer dip holders cos they are cheaper to employ and get the job done anyway.
He even cited an example of so and so who had a dip and is as an engineer in the company.
Can't really debuke his theory cos there seems to hold some truth.
So what's the value and edge I have when I get my degree?
for statutory boards, govt ministries or GLCs, differences between dip and deg holders are more obvious in terms of career advancement, pay scale, fringe benefits, etc...class of honours also count wor -
this is true for most private sectors. but of course, pay scale wld be lower for a dip holder if compared to a deg holder of the same position.
for statutory boards, govt ministries or GLCs, differences between dip and deg holders are more obvious in terms of career advancement, pay scale, fringe benefits, etc...class of honours also count wor
Agree totally. If one intend to do in private sector the certificate may not make such a big difference but if you are toking abt gahmen jobs THEN the certificate is so much more valuable. As I said before, wanna work for and earn money from gahmen, you better have a very big piece of paper else you will lose out in terms of even securing a job interview!
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Papers are important in government sector. the difference between degree and diploma is already around $600 for both fresh graduates. Morever, the performance bonus for degree holder is at least 1.5month while diploma holder is 0.5 month. Is studying for degree worth it? it's an extra bonus.
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Alot of the MNCs are looking for degree holders for engineering. If you take a look at Saturday's Recruit, there are some engineering positions that demand degree and nothing less and there are some that ask for degree or diploma with working experience...
Ultimately I believe it depends on how you perceive things. If you think degree is not worth it then it won't be.. for you that is. If you think a degree is a passport/insurance/whatever and that you are looking into opportunities that will make your investment count then a degree is the best thing you can get
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Forget to add, rank is also much difference.
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...i presume u mean rank between dip and degOriginally posted by gallenng:Forget to add, rank is also much difference.
yea, how can a dip holder rank above a deg holder asuming everything equal? -
i'm juz stating the facts...Need not u to elaborate further. if u keep saying "how can" this and that, there's no ending.Originally posted by Ah Cek:...i presume u mean rank between dip and deg
yea, how can a dip holder rank above a deg holder asuming everything equal? -
I've got a 2Upper Engineering degree from a local university and I'm in SAF,
is it worth for me to continue as a spec and eventually a WO?
I don't know, but I think by being a spec , I'll be limited in many ways and career opportunities will be limited too.
Why do I go for my studies in the first place? 3 years of no pay leave, 3 years of fees and 3 years of seniority.... Why?
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Yes u r rite. In the private sector, there's little distinction between general degree holders and diploma holders. A starting pay of $1600-$1800 is the norm for fresh grads. And this is even more true if your degree is from a private school one...Originally posted by Pullup Addict:2.5k starting pay?????u will be lucky if u can get 2k in the first place!Unless u are doctor or some hot shot honours guy, u better be prepared for 1.8-2.2k starting pay.
Yeah, admit I got my degree thru peer pressure... everyone is getting one nowadays
so better not be seen as the odd one out. 
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Let's admit something here; who doesn't want to further one's career and pay? Who doesn't want to be one step higher than the others? Rite
But I found out about 1 thing after graduation... employers are looking more for experience and specialised skills than education qualifications, so if a fresh grad and an experienced dip holder applied for the same position, the dip holder will more likely to get the job...
well, just my 2 cents worth... -
Why ur pay so low huh?Originally posted by Pappy Lee:Yes u r rite. In the private sector, there's little distinction between general degree holders and diploma holders. A starting pay of $1600-$1800 is the norm for fresh grads. And this is even more true if your degree is from a private school one...
Yeah, admit I got my degree thru peer pressure... everyone is getting one nowadays so better not be seen as the odd one out.
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Let's admit something here; who doesn't want to further one's career and pay? Who doesn't want to be one step higher than the others? Rite
But I found out about 1 thing after graduation... employers are looking more for experience and specialised skills than education qualifications, so if a fresh grad and an experienced dip holder applied for the same position, the dip holder will more likely to get the job...
well, just my 2 cents worth...
Asked my frens ard and read recent forums, none of them as low as urs.
Or urs is some mickey-mouse degree, no value one?
I even suspect if u been to a real uni after all.. -
I also suspect u have been laying at home your whole life and expecting a degree to change your loser life to one that earns 2.5k a month?Originally posted by BillGates:Why ur pay so low huh?
Asked my frens ard and read recent forums, none of them as low as urs.
Or urs is some mickey-mouse degree, no value one?
I even suspect if u been to a real uni after all..
I recommend u get out of your cave and get a job now...
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studying for a degree......well it depends.......but let me give you my choice of things........say between two persons who applied for a job........
1.very educated......but personality flawed.......very arrogant.......pushy........has an attitude
2.less educated.........but personality better..........responsible.........KNOWS when to say SORRY..........has the attitude to want to excel in everything he/she does
i take the 2nd choice.not the 1st one who will become some sort of social degenerate later in the company. -
some professions need recognized degrees in order to practice...