If Liu Bei won the war instead of Cao Cao...
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is becos Liu Bei go and borrow Jin Zhou and dun want to return...Originally posted by Qing^.^:All becos of Wu la.. go attack Shu's east for wat.. killed Guan Yu and cre8 the farcas tt allow Cao Cao to reap the rewards..
of cos they have to kill Guan yu to take back Jin Zhou...
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Ya if onli they didnt promise..Originally posted by goaler:is becos Liu Bei go and borrow Jin Zhou and dun want to return...
of cos they have to kill Guan yu to take back Jin Zhou... 
they shld hav said:" show me the evidence!! when i say to u? show me video lor!" -
and guan yu shud have left Guan Ping at jingzhou to defend.Originally posted by Qing^.^:Ya if onli they didnt promise..
they shld hav said:" show me the evidence!! when i say to u? show me video lor!" -
What if Liu Bei, Guan Yu, and Zhang Fei never swear as brothers because Liu Bei want to swear at his house? Then Lu Bu did not fight the 3 brothers but kill Liu Bei & Zhang Fei because Guan Yu when on his own to join the army?
Then Dong Zhou did not commit an atrocity. And Yuan Shao did not go to the River Pan & did not meet Gongsun Zan to fight him?
Failing which Lu Bu could not kill Dong Zhou instead Lu Bu bride Li Su. Dong Zhuo wanted to denounces Ding Yuan at the Wenming Garden but dare not?
Lu Bu fail to defests Cao Cao near Puyang so Cao Cao do not have to retake Yanzhou from Lu Bu but when on the take an other city? Lu Bu was too exhaust to lead the night raid against Xuzhou. Xiahou Due was hit at the throat & loses his life instead. Then Lu Bu narrowly excape death at White Gate Tower and went on to kill Cao Cao.
Guan Yu and Zhang Fei did not capture the 2 gernarls since they did not swear to be brothers at the begining. Sima Hui recommended a idiot scholar to Liu Bei who knows nuts. Zhuge Liang agress with the southern scholars. Sun Quan did not attack Cao Cao. Cao Cao wife did not bore him a son Cao Ren but a daugther named Cao Zheebai? Cao Cao letter never reach Han Sui, he ran out of ink & paper.
Zhang Fei never relasee Yan Yan. Yang Fu fail to borrow any soldiers so could not destroy Ma Chao. The Seven Armies was not drown by Guan Yu as there was a dought at that time. Guan Yu never recover from the scarped-bone surgery and went home to retire as a fisherman.
sigh....what the h*&^ so why change history? -
At that time it was not strength & power that wins the war.
It is an act of malicious scheme, backstabbing & not giving in to emotions that wins the war & unified the whole of CHina -
Very soon, many others (like me) will know the full story of ROTK liao ....
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If Liu Bei won, People would be asking..
If Cao Cao won the wat instead of Liu Bei -
5 Hu Jiang or 5 valor generals
1) Guan Yu
2) Zhao Yun
3) Zhang Fei
4) Ma Chao
5) Huang Chong
Anyway, another reason why Guan Yu got killed because he don't want to surrender himself to Wu.
And also there's a famous story of Guan Yu and Hua Tuo. -
Personally, I think while Liu Bei may have some charm, he is a hypocrite at heart.
Throwing Liu Chan to the ground is an attempt to have Zhao Yun's undying loyalty. Asking Zhuge Liang to take over Shu if Liu Chan is incompetent is done with a similar intent - to get Zhuge Liang to ensure the Lius will continue to rule Shu. -
if liu bei won...cao cao....i will be richer by 10 dollars
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Is it the one about Guan Yu not applying anaesthetic when Hua Tuo had to operate on his arm?Originally posted by babymac13:And also there's a famous story of Guan Yu and Hua Tuo. -
Y u richer ???Originally posted by newmanmback:if liu bei won...cao cao....i will be richer by 10 dollars -
yeah.Originally posted by ^spidee^:Is it the one about Guan Yu not applying anaesthetic when Hua Tuo had to operate on his arm?
Big deal .. Hua Tuo opened Cao Cao's brain and did an operation. -
lol, he did?Originally posted by Icemoon:yeah.
Big deal .. Hua Tuo opened Cao Cao's brain and did an operation. -
sure or not?Originally posted by Icemoon:yeah.
Big deal .. Hua Tuo opened Cao Cao's brain and did an operation. -
dont think Hua tuo did... he suggested it to Cao Cao but the latter thought Hua Tuo wanted to assassinate him and sent him to jail instead.
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did Hua Tuo thought Cao Cao was going bonkers?Originally posted by connor88:dont think Hua tuo did... he suggested it to Cao Cao but the latter thought Hua Tuo wanted to assassinate him and sent him to jail instead. -
no.. Cao Cao always have very bad headaches. Hua Tuo diagnosed that this was due to "wind" caught within his skull and wanted to open up the skull to release the wind. Cao Cao thought Hua Tuo had wanted to use this as an excuse to murder him... so he had Hua Tuo jailed lor...
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because i bet on liu bei win chao chao so i win 10 dollars lorOriginally posted by gd4u:Y u richer ??? -
i see.. so interesting, all these historical stuff!Originally posted by connor88:no.. Cao Cao always have very bad headaches. Hua Tuo diagnosed that this was due to "wind" caught within his skull and wanted to open up the skull to release the wind. Cao Cao thought Hua Tuo had wanted to use this as an excuse to murder him... so he had Hua Tuo jailed lor...
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cao cao think too much uh
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wah, ur got read sgyy one ar? noe so well abt this
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Neither of them won the war...it was Sima Yan, if I am not wrong.
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How did Sima Zhao died ah?
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Originally posted by felirox:How did Sima Zhao died ah?