Ultraterrestrials - Do they walk among us?
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Yes! Alot of people have begun to think about this.Originally posted by The man who was death:I like another theory that aliens are air life, species that live in the air.
there's marine life and life on earth and aliens are life in the air
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one thing i dont get it is when those organisations who search for aliens in other planets only consider Mars..they say the other planets cant "sustain life".i mean thats dumb..the reason y they r called aliens r bcos they r different from us!so they might be even able to survive 100000 degree celcius.Do u agree?
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Tachions travel faster then the photons.Originally posted by SixSentinels:Today, we see the speed of light as a barrier that cannot be broken. The one thing that is different about this barrier is that we already know that, at least in theory, the ability to travel faster than the speed of light...and thus travel back in time is a possibility.
If you look at the rate of technological advance in the past 100 years, it's astounding. What we have accomplished in that small amount of time is mind-boggling. -
Some theories say that we are the product of the aliens, that they came to our planet to make genetical experiments and the animals and humans are the result of these experiments, I think also the plants.
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http://www.serpo.org
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then how abt godsOriginally posted by thinkdifferent:Some theories say that we are the product of the aliens, that they came to our planet to make genetical experiments and the animals and humans are the result of these experiments, I think also the plants. -
Some cultures consider the aliens as gods, for example the aborigines in Australia.Originally posted by ha8n:then how abt gods -
Originally posted by SixSentinels:If you look throughout history, you see example after example of "barriers" being broken.
One example is that the Earth was flat and that if you were to sail far enough, you'd fall off the edge.
This barrier was never broken, only proven wrong.
Another example is that the speed of sound couldn't be breached. When test pilots had gotten close to it and felt the turbulence it only strengthened the concept.
Yet people were able to break both barriers.
Today, we see the speed of light as a barrier that cannot be broken. The one thing that is different about this barrier is that we already know that, at least in theory, the ability to travel faster than the speed of light...and thus travel back in time is a possibility.
Travelling back in time concept doesn't mean travelling faster than the speed of light. The most common theory is to link it to black holes. That's because black holes gravitational pull is so strong. Even if we are able to move at 3.01 x 10^8, it won't make us travel back in time. Simply because we don't know how strong a black hole is. Even if we escape the black hole, we are probably back to a square one. There's nothing inside a black hole.
Assuming that we didn't enter the black hole, we still can't go back in time. It only makes time seem shorter because everything is travelling so fast.
If you look at the rate of technological advance in the past 100 years, it's astounding. What we have accomplished in that small amount of time is mind-boggling.
If we have advanced beyond what was already thought possible in the past 100 years, who's to say we can't advance beyond the "barriers" that Einstein laid down?
There's a threshold for everything. Even for computers, we thought it would keep increasing. Alas, time proved it wrong. Single chip speed is no longer increasing exponentially. In fact, it slowed down. Now, there's duo core chips. As technology improves, duo core chips speed will no longer increase exponentially. Another kind of chip would replace it. This process will repeat so long as Earth isn't destroyed by any kind of disaster.
Throughout human history, we have extended ourselves beyond what we thought (at one time) to be possible.
Why is it not then possible to believe that the "UFO's" we see are not indeed ourselves in the future who have been able to traverse the known barrier of space and time?
It is possible to believe everything, it is also impossible to believe everything. It's only whether we could convince ourselves. Using theories on Earth and apply it somewhere else might not work. Who says that Mars has water and we can survive? If you consider what kind of air is there, you are bound to die if you jump straight in. Besides, Mars gravity is lower than us. Our body might not be able to take that. There are lots of factors besides water. Applying it in this case, there are lots of reasons which can convince us besides this UFO theory. Not everybody sees everything the same way. What you believe in, others will not. -
Hmm, where did you learn of this from? As far as I know, those organizations which search for aliens look beyond Mars. They even look on Earth for signs of aliens. Mars, it's more like for scientists. Those organizations look further than that. From Earth historical records to other weird happenings, you name it, they will search.Originally posted by loneFighter:one thing i dont get it is when those organisations who search for aliens in other planets only consider Mars..they say the other planets cant "sustain life".i mean thats dumb..the reason y they r called aliens r bcos they r different from us!so they might be even able to survive 100000 degree celcius.Do u agree? -
raelians too.Originally posted by thinkdifferent:Some cultures consider the aliens as gods, for example the aborigines in Australia. -
wtf i cant view page 2 of this thread im writing this post now so that the forum will auto-direct me to page 2 im not sure if it will work
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wtf i STILL cant see page 2 i've tried every possible method i know of and it always brings me to a 'Page not found' page..can anyone help me please give me a PM coz i cant see page 2 of this thread thanks
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search for this thread and access from there or use subforum url to surfOriginally posted by SixSentinels:wtf i STILL cant see page 2 i've tried every possible method i know of and it always brings me to a 'Page not found' page..can anyone help me please give me a PM coz i cant see page 2 of this thread thanks 
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Have u read Erich Von Daniken's Chariot of the Gods, published 1969? I have, and it has a theory, much like the storyline of 'Aliens Vs Predator', where the aliens came to our planet to breed with us (in the Bible, these alien(s) is God(s) and the Giants often mentioned are the human/alien hybrid species, the result of cross-species reproduction between the aliens and humans), and because of their advanced technology, our simple minds at that time thought that these aliens must be Gods, for they used technology comparable to magic...Originally posted by thinkdifferent:Some cultures consider the aliens as gods, for example the aborigines in Australia.
There is another theory called Panspermia which says that life on Earth came from elsewhere in the universe.
It is now known that for most of the history of Earth, the most sophisticated form of life was simple algae – “pond scum.” From about four and a half billion years ago up until about six hundred million years before the Present, a relatively narrow range of algae were the most advanced organisms living anywhere on the planet.
Then, at the boundary between the last two great geological epochs -- known as the great “Pre-Cambrian/Cambrian transition” -- there was a veritable “explosion” of much more complex life … which formed the pattern for the development of all the future “kingdoms,” “phyla,” “genera,” “families” and “species” that we now recognize on Earth.
This so-called “Cambrian Explosion” is without doubt the single biggest mystery of life on Earth—
Save, of course, for the even more mysterious appearance of Life itself.
Why, for literally billions of years, was Earth home to only an extremely narrow range of microscopic cyanobacteria, some organized in great algal mats (below) called “stromatolites” … ? And then, in the space of less than 5 million years (as judged by the latest evidence) – BANG!! – every form of life currently appearing on Earth suddenly emerged …?
Earth at the dawn of history:
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This explains why the 'Grey' species of alien looks so similiar to us humans, because when chunks of rocks containing 'Grey' life-forms in the early stages of evolution broke off from their homeworld, some of these pieces may have penetrated our atmosphere and the simple organisms within have grown to complex life forms that we are today. But, due to differences in planetary atmospheres and environs, we look different yet vaguely similiar (basic configuration of bi-pedalled creatures, eg. head, arms, legs, spine)
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sentinel where u copy all theses from..
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u can read here if ur interestedOriginally posted by loneFighter:sentinel where u copy all theses from..
http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon1.htm -
haha thx but wat i want to say is plz summarise for us
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The previous Homo species are also looked different yet vaguely similar. Homo erectus, the nearest I can think of, looks very similar to us.Originally posted by SixSentinels:This explains why the 'Grey' species of alien looks so similiar to us humans, because when chunks of rocks containing 'Grey' life-forms in the early stages of evolution broke off from their homeworld, some of these pieces may have penetrated our atmosphere and the simple organisms within have grown to complex life forms that we are today. But, due to differences in planetary atmospheres and environs, we look different yet vaguely similiar (basic configuration of bi-pedalled creatures, eg. head, arms, legs, spine) -
I bet he can't even see this messageOriginally posted by The man who was death:search for this thread and access from there or use subforum url to surf -
Are we still Homo Sapiens? Our daily use and integration of technology has made us depend on it so much I believe we have evolved into a new species altogether, a species I call Homo Cyberneticus.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:The previous Homo species are also looked different yet vaguely similar. Homo erectus, the nearest I can think of, looks very similar to us. -
Its a cycle. You think by thinking it through and come out with this theory, we will one day be able to unveil alien? Don't forget it is our own "egotistical assumption that we are the species at the top of the heap" that comes up with this theory. So where does it lead us to? If time travelling is possible, ever wonder where are all the future tourists? Should not we be hearing from them since ages ago? Don't think so much lah. Like you say, we all think we all very clever that we might not know there are cleverer things out there. SO don't be so clever and come out with all this theories.Originally posted by SixSentinels:The most popular belief today is that UFOs are spaceships piloted by aliens from other planets and other solar systems. But another good theory which never gets as much press is that UFOs may, in fact, originate right here on earth. Instead of being Extraterrestrials, UFO aliens might be Ultraterrestrials -- a species that has always been here, which evolved on earth along with homo sapiens, but which represent a species far advanced.These Ultraterrestrials are so superior to us itÂ’s almost impossible for us to comprehend their existence. All we know of them are fleeting glimpses of light in the sky, occasional bizarre encounters between human beings and so-called aliens, and other unexplainable phenomenon.Think of how a group of chimpanzees in the wild perceive human beings. Because their own level of consciousness is limited compared to ours, they cannot comprehend what we humans are beyond being just another kind of animal.A chimp may think of an airplane as some kind of magical, giant bird.
They relate to it with the level of understanding they have about their environment. The speculation of the chimp, at best, is a crude idea about the total truth of an airplane, and the fact that it represents entire levels of consciousness that are so advanced, they are literally invisible to chimp mind.Now think of a human being who encounters a UFO. To us a UFO seems to be some kind of flying, mechanical aircraft -- but the true nature of the UFO may be as different from a spacecraft as a bird is from an airplane. Like the chimp, we just donÂ’t have the advanced levels of consciousness we need to comprehend the true nature of a UFO.As humans, we make the naturally egotistical assumption that we are the species at the top of the heap -- we see ourselves as the peak achievement of evolution. We even make the bold claim that God, the supreme architect of the entire universe, created us in his own image!But itÂ’s not a big leap to consider that we are just another link in a vast chain of species, many which are below us, and some which may be above us.
People who support the Ultraterrestrial theory, such as authors Jacques Vallee and John Keel, point out that supernatural beings seemingly superior to humans have been reported throughout history. In previous eras they were called gods, angels, ogres, fairies, brownies, little people, demons, and more.The Bible is filled with references to supernatural creatures, including giants, “wheels” flying in the sky out of which incredible creatures emerge, and more.But references to flying disks were recorded centuries before the texts of the Bible. Cave drawing dating to 30,000 B.C. depict disks floating around in the sky, remarkably similar to modern UFO photographs.Maverick UFO investigators like Vallee and Keel have pointed out the amazing similarities of modern UFO aliens to that of elves, fairies and the various “little people” famous in the folklore of many cultures.Fairies are known for kidnapping people, the same irritating habit UFO aliens have. People who are abducted report incidents of missing time, a phenomenon very similar to time lapses reported by people taken to and returned from “fairyland.”Fairies, like modern aliens, tend to be diminutive creatures with large magical eyes. Many reports of alien abduction even include “power rods” used to paralyze abducties, just as fairies wield “magic wands.”One of the most interesting comparisons between aliens and fairies is that both are interested in stealing babies.
One of the most common fairy activities is swiping babies from cribs, and sometimes replacing them with a false double, or “changeling” as they are sometimes called.A large part of modern UFO literature involves aliens abducting women, impregnating them, and then later abducting them again, only to remove and take the unborn baby right out of the womb.Clearly, both UFO occupants and fairies have a strong affinity for the baby business.Fairies are closely associated with nature, just as modern aliens also display a certain obsession with environmental issues. One of the most common alien abduction scenarios involves aliens who force people to watch “movies” depicting massive environmental degradation caused by modern human civizilation. The aliens then give them a lecture on environmental issues and let them go.If aliens truly are a superior species from earth and evolved on earth, it would make sense that they would be concerned about another species wrecking the planet.But then you might ask, why don’t the Ultraterrestrials simply step in and “manage” us the same way humans “manage” wildlife, including chimps and other large primates? The Ultraterrestrial theorists answer: “They are!” That’s what all the abduction and experiments are about!Just as human beings capture and tag various species, UFO abducties report experiences of extreme similarity.
Many people report being “tagged” during frightening sessions on a UFO operating table. Some of these “tags” have even been recovered, or show up on MRI exams, and remain unexplained.It’s also possible that Ultraterrestrials comprehend and operate within higher levels of dimension than we experience at the human level. A chimp, for example, does not comprehend the dimension of time like humans can, and a chimp could never understand that time and space are actually two parts of the same dimension, as scientists have discovered.Mathematicians tell us that many additional dimensions of reality exist -- dimensions which only the most brilliant math minds can glimpse through numbers, although they cannot experience them psychologically in any meaningful way.If Ultraterrestrials can exist “above” or “beyond” spacetime, that means they can easily see us, trick us and manipulate our existence, while we can’t see them at all, or only in the most crude manner, or perhaps only when they allow us to see them.Imagine when a bear is shot with a drugged dart from a helicopter hovering above him. Imagine how terrified the bear is of the bizarre flying monster, and the noise and lights that come out of it. Now imagine what the bear thinks of the strange beings that emerge fromm the flying monster. The strange beings poke and prod him, look inside his mouth, apply a tag to his ear, and then let him go. Why? How can a bear understand or interpret the meaning of this incident on its level of consciousness? It can’t. Human beings are so advanced and superior as to be incomprehensible.Is it so difficult to believe that the ongoing bizarre and seemingly incomprehensible phenomenon of UFOs and their activities are the actions of an earth-born species far advanced and superior to human beings? Just ask a bear or a chimp. -
No!No!No! It's technology that evolves but we remain same specie altogether.Originally posted by SixSentinels:Are we still Homo Sapiens? Our daily use and integration of technology has made us depend on it so much I believe we have evolved into a new species altogether, a species I call Homo Cyberneticus. -
since the area 51 inciident u guys have been giving us FBi enough probs.
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I have read many Daniken's books and other UFO books as a child, I grew up on them, besides quantum physics and astrophysics books and other books.Originally posted by SixSentinels:Have u read Erich Von Daniken's Chariot of the Gods, published 1969? I have, and it has a theory, much like the storyline of 'Aliens Vs Predator', where the aliens came to our planet to breed with us (in the Bible, these alien(s) is God(s) and the Giants often mentioned are the human/alien hybrid species, the result of cross-species reproduction between the aliens and humans), and because of their advanced technology, our simple minds at that time thought that these aliens must be Gods, for they used technology comparable to magic...
There is another theory called Panspermia which says that life on Earth came from elsewhere in the universe.
It is now known that for most of the history of Earth, the most sophisticated form of life was simple algae – “pond scum.” From about four and a half billion years ago up until about six hundred million years before the Present, a relatively narrow range of algae were the most advanced organisms living anywhere on the planet.
Then, at the boundary between the last two great geological epochs -- known as the great “Pre-Cambrian/Cambrian transition” -- there was a veritable “explosion” of much more complex life … which formed the pattern for the development of all the future “kingdoms,” “phyla,” “genera,” “families” and “species” that we now recognize on Earth.
This so-called “Cambrian Explosion” is without doubt the single biggest mystery of life on Earth—
Save, of course, for the even more mysterious appearance of Life itself.
Why, for literally billions of years, was Earth home to only an extremely narrow range of microscopic cyanobacteria, some organized in great algal mats (below) called “stromatolites” … ? And then, in the space of less than 5 million years (as judged by the latest evidence) – BANG!! – every form of life currently appearing on Earth suddenly emerged …?
Earth at the dawn of history: