Typical Singaporeans
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perhaps some people should consider that people have become so jaded by the society and system that singapore is, that they prefer not to be associated with a system n society as narrow-minded, willfully blind and gutless as singapore's.
Its people's personal choice which country's citizen they wish to identify as. They don't give u stick for being contented being chickens in a farm factory, u don't give them stick for deciding they don't want to live their lives for other people's benefit alone. -
Uh,how does German national anthem come into the picture with regards to the topic?Originally posted by nullifi3d:Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
über alles in der Welt,
wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
brüderlich zusammenhält!
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
von der Etsch bis an den Belt:
|: Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
über alles in der Welt!
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang
sollen in der Welt behalten
ihren alten schönen Klang,
uns zu edler Tat begeistern
unser ganzes Leben lang:
|: Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang!
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
für das deutsche Vaterland!
Danach lasst uns alle streben
brüderlich mit Herz und Hand!
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
sind des Glückes Unterpfand;
|: blüh' im Glanze dieses Glückes,
blühe, deutsches Vaterland.
ADD:Actually only the last stanza,from "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" onwards,is still being used as German national anthem. -
Thats a backlash, which results from Singapore's system putting national interest(or more like, govt official's interests) ahead of the people's interest, and failing to acknowledge each human as a sentinent individual. When people have had enough of being treated as nothing more than a disposable asset, do u seriously expect them to love their country? U talk as tho humans are emotionless robots who can be abused and still remain unerringly loyal.Originally posted by dork3d:Self-interest supercedes national interest. -
From what i read and what i understand with regards to general Singaporean mentality,it is possible that we value our 'faces' too much and tend to be vocally conservative,thus lack of cheering for our sportsmen/women.Originally posted by Ponders:Singaporeans in a "first world" country, will try not to identify themselves as a Singaporean but will act as if they are a local of that "first world" country.
Singaporeans in a "third world" country will flaunt wealth and make as much noise as possible so that everybody in 1km radius of them will recognise them as Singaporeans!!
look at this story below,
http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/forum/story/0,5562,380871,00.html?
I was in a "First world" country and the Singaporea association there orgainsed a National Day Dinner.
SIngapore national anthem played, NOBODY except the Singapore Ambassador and family SANG!!!
That "first world" country's national anthem played, every Singaporeans sang loudly!!!
WTF!! THey are not even citizens of that country. -
they got singapore citizenship in a blink of the eye!!!Originally posted by Anti-RuleSS:What's the big deal of not cheering for our sportmans when some are not even singaporeans!
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it's sad dat most players in the commonwealth games representing spore are not local. the real singaporeans like the netball team was beaten 18-108 by aussie when i watched it half way. and the aussie coach commented "sorry spore but we had to do this in order to bring out the aussie rankin........."
it's kinda sad, spore dosent have much support frm the locals in the first place.. -
we're all learning their cultures and national histroy and anthems... getting ready to leave this place....
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There is where quitters come into the picture....i think i should migrate to US to further enhance my talent....
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Well you people don't address the root problem. If you're not happy with things, get the balls to change it. But since we don't have anyone else voicing discontent, we can assume the majority of citizens are happy with things, even though i hear horror stories of people not feeling they "have a stake" in things.
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got la. those who come out n try to change it end up being sued for "defamation" and run into exile, or else always bo tai bo ji get charged for some chicken feet pi sai thing n fined here n there, or go jail here n there.Originally posted by mixedblooder:Well you people don't address the root problem. If you're not happy with things, get the balls to change it. But since we don't have anyone else voicing discontent, we can assume the majority of citizens are happy with things, even though i hear horror stories of people not feeling they "have a stake" in things.
The country run until like a dictatorship, who dare to come out n address the root problem? Peaceful demonstrations also not allowed, 4 ppl demonstrate need 40 riot police come n flex muscle, how u expect people to "get the balls to change it"? join PAP ah? join liao sooner or later u'll be forced or brainwashed into falling in line with the party line, what effect u think they can make?
Nobody voicing discontent dun mean people are happy hor. This kind of cock-up assumption u also can make ah? -_-" -
well historically.. to get things the way people want them to, it has always involved a lot more than just 1 or 2 defamtion suits and 40 riot policemen. It has involved much bloodshed, massive massives and possies and tearing down of monuments and guillotines and a lot more stuff. Oh and it took hundreds of years. So just be patient Singapore.. although judging by the number of you ppl who are SO INTO Christianity like our ancestors in 1300, it'll take a long time.
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hang over from our colonial days perhaps ....
I was laughing so hard when I read about how the RSAF's detachments in the United States were experiencing a "baby boom" ...... of course, what the parents were really thinking, was to give birth in the United States so the kids can perhaps claim US citizenship in the future ...
and that's the regular servicemen who's sworn to defend you and me ....
whatever the root cause ... something is seriously wrong here ... -
its france, not the us.Originally posted by Fatum:hang over from our colonial days perhaps ....
I was laughing so hard when I read about how the RSAF's detachments in the United States were experiencing a "baby boom" ...... of course, what the parents were really thinking, was to give birth in the United States so the kids can perhaps claim US citizenship in the future ...
and that's the regular servicemen who's sworn to defend you and me ....
whatever the root cause ... something is seriously wrong here ... and hey, with tv stations airing stuff in a language you can hardly understand and nearly no nightlife(rural area) you're bound to keep farking like hamsters. -
oh no ... it was the US alright ... definitely not france ...Originally posted by vito_corleone:its france, not the us. and hey, with tv stations airing stuff in a language you can hardly understand and nearly no nightlife(rural area) you're bound to keep farking like hamsters.
I don't suppose many chaps would pick French citizenship over Singapore's (but then perhaps it's just me ... I have this thing against froggies and all things gallic ... )... but US citizenship on the other hand ... -
same here... the FT policy is nothing but another way to invite other country ppl into SG and take our ricebowlsOriginally posted by vito_corleone:don't get me wrong...i love the country but i hate the government. -
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Those Singaporeans who sang other countries national anthems are so fake!
As for not singing our national anthem, I can understand because in school every day I heard the song till I sian liao. Second, I can't remember all the words and never understood them because they are in Malay. I only know "mari kita" means "we go" ... -
That reminds me of my NSF days. Trudging up and down Lim Chu Kang during the night on a 32klick route march I sang the XXXX (Specific Foreign Nationality will be omitted to preserve my anonymity) National Anthem. Some of the platoon hummed along cause they sure as heck didn't know the words. That was hilarious considering I was working my butt off to become a Singapore officer and citizen.
Being a Singaporean is a state of mind. We don't have to ostentatiously show off to the rest of the world how proud we are to be a citizen. Understatement is the key to emphasis.
Cheers -
Totally agree, but when the national anthem of one's country is being played yet he can still chat with friends, then it is very much a disrespect to the country as well as himselfOriginally posted by FireIce:in ur heart can liao, no need to sing or show out -
sekali sing out loud and tio pak by other ppl...Originally posted by chenc:Totally agree, but when the national anthem of one's country is being played yet he can still chat with friends, then it is very much a disrespect to the country as well as himself -
Thats what happened in my school lor. Morning no one sing 1. All like embarrassedOriginally posted by dcx:sekali sing out loud and tio pak by other ppl...