50 young women visit Pulau Tekong for taste of army life
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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/200527/1/.html
SINGAPORE : 50 young women from the National Youth Achievement Award Council had a taste of army life at the Basic Military Training Centre on Wednesday.
The tour at Pulau Tekong aims to help them understand the importance of defence and National Service.
They got a first look, first touch and even first taste of what the men, who could be their brothers or boyfriends, go through on Pulau Tekong.
They visited the bunks, were shown the hardware and were treated to combat rations.
The girls are part of a youth leadership programme (LEAF@NYAA) led by the council's advisor Irene Ng, who is also the Government Parliamentary Committee Chairman for Defence.
"From my dialogues with young women, I find that they have interest in security issues but lack awareness of the threats that are apparent in everyday life. For instance, the terrorist threats that we face or the occasional threats we hear from the region about our security. That's what makes us want to build up a strong SAF. They lack this sense of deep knowledge and conviction, which I think can only come through if you go through two years of NS," said Irene Ng, chairman of GPC Defence & Foreign Affairs.
"It opens my eyes to what the guys go through in Singapore. They are ever ready to defend the country, sometimes you ask yourself as a female, are you ready to go through what they go through," said Meishan Krishnan, who participated in the LEAF@NYAA programme.
"At least you get a clearer idea of what they go through. Prior to that, you only have this fuzzy idea that they go in and come out but you don't know what they actually go through. Now, we can fully appreciate what they go through," said Denise He, a participant of LEAF@NYAA programme.
Following this experience, the girls can put forward their views on National Defence when they meet Defence Minister Teo Chee Hean next month.
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I suggest the goverment to enforce a rule for the girls to attend national service too. Not just the males but the females should protect singapore too, just like the Israelis females.
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It was mentioned before "unofficially", Singapore had a few times considered female NS, but they have issues to settle because the Singapore attitude and situation is different.Originally posted by Anti-RuleSS:I suggest the goverment to enforce a rule for the girls to attend national service too. Not just the males but the females should protect singapore too, just like the Israelis females.
They have to find a solution if a girl is pregnant, and wary of if girls will intentionally get pregnant (with parental support) just to escape NS.
The general Israeli attitude is they WANT to serve NS because they are proud of their land and the history and the land they are in means alot to them.
Singapore... no need to say so much. -
Hahaha.... Singaporeans... all servce NS lah.. then i guess the bond will be stronger.. i man look lah there will always be slack buggers...those who downgrade.. among males and perhaps those who get pregnant among females.. so what the hell just go forth with the Female NS thingy.. see waht happens....
Itll be nice to get forigners involved too.....
Get forign freeloaders who stay for mor that 3 yrs.. to do some kinda social service.. compulsary, or pay fine or something -
Since, the garmen commented that this country has lower birth rates than before. Implementing NS for females might just boost up the birth rates. And, maybe, there wouldn't be so much sg gals thinking of late marriage?Originally posted by Ponders:It was mentioned before "unofficially", Singapore had a few times considered female NS, but they have issues to settle because the Singapore attitude and situation is different.
They have to find a solution if a girl is pregnant, and wary of if girls will intentionally get pregnant (with parental support) just to escape NS.
The general Israeli attitude is they WANT to serve NS because they are proud of their land and the history and the land they are in means alot to them.
Singapore... no need to say so much.
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gu niang soldiers???Originally posted by Anti-RuleSS:I suggest the goverment to enforce a rule for the girls to attend national service too. Not just the males but the females should protect singapore too, just like the Israelis females.
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why is there a shortage of GI jane?
women or girls bleed............a monthly routine
guys or men don't! -
I think the term applies better to those sissy guys in NS.Originally posted by Ah Cek:gu niang soldiers??? 
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If Im not wrong, there are other considerations also?
For example, if female soldiers are captured and taken prisoner, it will demoralize the male soldiers.
And, male soldiers are more likely to act rashly or disobey orders, for example to protect the females in the heat of battle.
Not to mention, what if.....after they got captured, then the enemy decided to do psy-op warfare by......raping them....this will severely demoralize the entire army.
I think I read something like that. Something got to do with the presence of females srewing up the males psychologically and therefore affect the military effectiveness aspect. -
tell that to the israelis.
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If it works in Israel, why doesn't here?
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Israel doesn't have maids.Originally posted by MacNaiker:If it works in Israel, why doesn't here? -
Isreal is also having the same problems, but they still go ahead with it, because no choice. They really need the extra manpower.
For Singapore, the MINDEF already say no need, enough manpower already.
So why still want to?
Well, actually if people say it's to instill national pride, or serve a contribution to the nation, then it's fine also......but no need to make them go into the military right? Maybe let them go into nursing or what.... -
i also feel women in Sg are living in their own comfort zones.
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B'cuz Singapore is not Israel, our culture is totally different from themOriginally posted by MacNaiker:If it works in Israel, why doesn't here? -
I protest.. is not good idea for women to join army. If they did then we guys ...............
10 Reasons
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1) cannot walk ard butt naked anymore.
2) easier to find sexual release rather than before have to wait weekend bookout so yeah ... dampens our fighting edge.
3) ..... I think of another 7 reasons I let you know. -
Yes, i fully agree with u, at least make them serve as a nurse. 2 years of national service as nurse.Originally posted by Li Ka Shing:Isreal is also having the same problems, but they still go ahead with it, because no choice. They really need the extra manpower.
For Singapore, the MINDEF already say no need, enough manpower already.
So why still want to?
Well, actually if people say it's to instill national pride, or serve a contribution to the nation, then it's fine also......but no need to make them go into the military right? Maybe let them go into nursing or what.... -
Originally posted by Anti-RuleSS:I suggest the goverment to enforce a rule for the girls to attend national service too. Not just the males but the females should protect singapore too, just like the Israelis females.
Strongly agreed. Upheld decision. -
bravo
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Wicked! Check this! have the balls to express urself for god's sake =) -
Getting girls to serve in national service can come in many other ways. For example, they can be trained as nurses or paramedic and serve in hospitals etc. Since there is a shortage of nurses out there and the hospitals kept importing nurses into Singapore, the government might as well make use of training girls and letting them serve in hospitals for 2 years. Moreover their skills could be useful in times of war. 1 day in Tekong will not make those 50 women know alot about army life.
Its like in secondary school where CCAs have their open house. They will tell you how good their CCA is and what you can get when you join them. But after you join the ugly side of them comes out. You will never whats in the ugly side of life until you truely experience it. -
no lar.. make them go for basic social work training 3 mths..
den assign them by "PES status" hahaha n perfomance.. to
different welfare n charity organisations to help out as low wage social workers... or can juz make them go help out once a week.. but will not be paid... yeah... den they contribute to society too -
For nursing is also not a viable choice. Not all men is cut out for medic vocations, similar to that not all women is cut out for nursing.
Previously, we also seen suggestion like streaming women into other civil service, etc, etc. But think of the problems, how it will cost the budget which will indirectly affect the bulk of the population in taxes. How it will cause the admin problems of streaming correct ppl into the correct civil service not as simple as the SAF.
And at the end of the day. We live in a imperfect and unfair world. If men should shoulder the responsibilty of the defending the national then so be it. Why need to complain/whine that women need to serve also. -
tt time go tekong despatch den saw those gals... chio sia...
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I doubt you can ever have an accurate acount of army life in one PRE-PLANNED ( most people call it WAYANG) day...