*IMPT* - Please tell pple do NOT throw drinks into dustbins!
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If it hasn't killed anyone it just isn't worth finding a solutionOriginally posted by UltimaOnline:It it saddening how many Singaporeans are insensitive and inconsiderate, even if they do not deliberately mean harm, but lack of concern and caring can also cause unnecessary difficulty to others.
Throwing half-finished drinks, liquids or ice into dustbins, is an inconsiderate act because the water makes a horrid mess of the rubbish. Decomposers (ie. bacteria and fungi) reply on enzymes to carry out their decomposition work, which in turn needs water to work. (This is why drying food can preserve it).
When pple throw drinks, liquids, ice, or even wet stuff that is not properly tied up in plastic bags, they are causing a lot of unnecessary unpleasantness to the rubbish cleaners (who are already doing Singaporeans a very huge service performing cleaning tasks that most pple won't be willing to do, without getting any thanks or appreciation, or even a decent pay for their service), as well as those poor elderly auntie/uncle who rumage through rubbish bins every day to find some tin cans to sell to buy their next meal.
If you have thrown drinks into rubbish bins in the past, it's ok if you didn't realize that it causes others this problem. But please, remember not to do it again. And just as importantly, please tell your friends, classmates and others around you (spread the message whenever you see someone about to throw a drink or ice into a bin), let them understand the consequences of such an inconsiderate act. I'm sure once they realize, they also wouldn't want to cause suffering to others deliberately.
Then where to throw the drink, liquid or ice? If outside, pour it down a drain, or even on the nearby grass patch. For ice cubes, you can even throw in on the road (it'll dissolve and evaporate rapidly under singapore heat). None of this is littering, because as long as you do in intelligently (eg. unfinished sweet drinks don't pour it on concrete floors, or inconvenience others in any way), you're helping to water the plants and cool the environment. And doing your bit to make the already unpleasant and thankless tasks of the rubbish cleaners, at least a little less unpleasant or painful.
Same for toilets and hawker centres. Pls be considerate for the toilet cleaners and hawker cleaners. Don't make a mess of the urinals, cubicles and basins. (I even remember seeing shit on a man's urinal before!). For hawker centres, pls don't spit, spill or dump food material onto the table, and if you're using tissue paper and your food is soup based, pls do NOT throw ur tissue paper into ur unfinished soup.
As long as you care, common sense is enough to advise you what is considerate behaviour and what is not. Please remember to let others know about this. Again, I believe it's not that Singaporeans are really evil, it's just ignorance. So this is where you can help them, let them know, help them to understand.
Thank you for being a nice person, wishing you a nice day.
Bedok Ah Beng -
Thank you for telling us!! I didn't know it actually. But the ice throwing at the road? LOL. Throw it at the GRASS. It eventually melts and the water will help grow the grass!
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LOL. what you say maybe right.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Throw ice cubes and if people never, slip and fell on them, you pay medical bills is it? What about old people? You very considerate hor.
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People are not largely ignorant here, they are mostly burnt out from trying to make a living.Originally posted by UltimaOnline:It it saddening how many Singaporeans are insensitive and inconsiderate, even if they do not deliberately mean harm, but lack of concern and caring can also cause unnecessary difficulty to others.
Throwing half-finished drinks, liquids or ice into dustbins, is an inconsiderate act because the water makes a horrid mess of the rubbish. Decomposers (ie. bacteria and fungi) reply on enzymes to carry out their decomposition work, which in turn needs water to work. (This is why drying food can preserve it).
When pple throw drinks, liquids, ice, or even wet stuff that is not properly tied up in plastic bags, they are causing a lot of unnecessary unpleasantness to the rubbish cleaners (who are already doing Singaporeans a very huge service performing cleaning tasks that most pple won't be willing to do, without getting any thanks or appreciation, or even a decent pay for their service), as well as those poor elderly auntie/uncle who rumage through rubbish bins every day to find some tin cans to sell to buy their next meal.
If you have thrown drinks into rubbish bins in the past, it's ok if you didn't realize that it causes others this problem. But please, remember not to do it again. And just as importantly, please tell your friends, classmates and others around you (spread the message whenever you see someone about to throw a drink or ice into a bin), let them understand the consequences of such an inconsiderate act. I'm sure once they realize, they also wouldn't want to cause suffering to others deliberately.
Then where to throw the drink, liquid or ice? If outside, pour it down a drain, or even on the nearby grass patch. For ice cubes, you can even throw in on the road (it'll dissolve and evaporate rapidly under singapore heat). None of this is littering, because as long as you do in intelligently (eg. unfinished sweet drinks don't pour it on concrete floors, or inconvenience others in any way), you're helping to water the plants and cool the environment. And doing your bit to make the already unpleasant and thankless tasks of the rubbish cleaners, at least a little less unpleasant or painful.
Same for toilets and hawker centres. Pls be considerate for the toilet cleaners and hawker cleaners. Don't make a mess of the urinals, cubicles and basins. (I even remember seeing shit on a man's urinal before!). For hawker centres, pls don't spit, spill or dump food material onto the table, and if you're using tissue paper and your food is soup based, pls do NOT throw ur tissue paper into ur unfinished soup.
As long as you care, common sense is enough to advise you what is considerate behaviour and what is not. Please remember to let others know about this. Again, I believe it's not that Singaporeans are really evil, it's just ignorance. So this is where you can help them, let them know, help them to understand.
Thank you for being a nice person, wishing you a nice day.
Bedok Ah Beng
So stuff like this, don't register well in their minds and are least, in their concern. -
fluids will still leak from tied plastic bags.. but it does help! (: eh pardon me for sayin.. dun pour into drains >_< it will end up in e sea..
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onli reward for doing so?
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Does anyone rememebr if we go out-field freash rations training, ppl will just pour syrup water into the soil!!!
Crap... come back few days later and you swear you think there's decomposing body nearby. -
Bedok Ah Beng ? LOLS
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This Bedok Ah Beng is a stubborn mule... he refuses to accept other explanation other than his... He thinks that what he said is 100% correct.... but if u weigh the costs and benefits, you may not be right afterall.... when someone tries to add in their own point of views, they get personal attacks from Bedok Ah Beng... cos he indirectly implied that these people are not humans and they're brainless....Bedok can never be a nice place with such stuck-up resisdents....
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So imagine if you do it in a dustbin, much lagi worse hor. Why should rubbish workers or anyone have to suffer such awful smells? So let everybody do his/her part to reduce this, by not wetting rubbish.Originally posted by Ponders:Does anyone rememebr if we go out-field freash rations training, ppl will just pour syrup water into the soil!!! Crap... come back few days later and you swear you think there's decomposing body nearby.
For myself, if there's unfinished drink, I throw in toilet. If it's ice cubes, I water the plant. If you have better ideas, please carry them out *yourself*.
As I told 'Andy Lau', self-responsibility means you understand it's not helpful to just criticize, without coming up with your own solution (you don't have to post your solution (though it's called 'sharing'), what's impt is that you have to *do* it. Actions speak louder than words).
Anyone can complain about SAF, PAP, etc etc. But can you do a better job? Are you willing to do it? The wise will focus productively on solutions, instead of simply criticizing, complaining and lamenting.
Please may everyone be wise, helpful and loving. -
Freakass no need to be defensive. If you think I implied " these people are not humans and they're brainless", you totally don't understand my point. My point is that if you have other views (which is a good thing), then the self-responsible thing to do is to carry them out.Originally posted by freakass:This Bedok Ah Beng is a stubborn mule... he refuses to accept other explanation other than his... He thinks that what he said is 100% correct.... but if u weigh the costs and benefits, you may not be right afterall.... when someone tries to add in their own point of views, they get personal attacks from Bedok Ah Beng... cos he indirectly implied that these people are not humans and they're brainless....Bedok can never be a nice place with such stuck-up resisdents....
I repeat (the point which you didn't get) - use your own intelligence to come up with your own solutions, and carry your solutions out. No need to criticize other pple's ideas or attack them (personal attacks like u said), you only need to carry out your own solutions.
Amazing how many pple misunderstand things so badly on internet forums. -
being guilty adds on to the woes..Originally posted by UltimaOnline:Freakass no need to be defensive. If you think I implied " these people are not humans and they're brainless", you totally don't understand my point. My point is that if you have other views (which is a good thing), then the self-responsible thing to do is to carry them out.
I repeat (the point which you didn't get) - use your own intelligence to come up with your own solutions, and carry your solutions out. No need to criticize other pple's ideas or attack them (personal attacks like u said), you only need to carry out your own solutions.
Amazing how many pple misunderstand things so badly on internet forums. -
In truth, no one is guilty (or innocent, for that matter), of anything. There's just a lot of miscommunication, which is not uncommon.Originally posted by stellazio:being guilty adds on to the woes..
The fact is, everyone is seeing only (false) ideas of everyone else, and not their actual being. So when you're upset and you attack someone online, you're only attacking your idea of that person online (ie. what he represents to you), and not actually that person himself.
And by Clarification, Law of Reflection and self-responsibility, when you say, "pple should not misunderstand me or throw personal attacks at me", what you're really saying (what the experience is teaching you), is that "I should not misunderstand others or throw personal attacks at others", as well as "I should not misunderstand me or throw personal attacks at me".
So anyways, even if there has been miscommunication or misunderstanding, but in the end it's all ok. Since you realize that we are really only seeing ourselves in others, in everyone that we interact with (this is the inner reflective meaning of relationships, with the outer being Evolutionary Duo, in support of each other's evolution); ultimately what matters is yourself, how you see all these aspects in yourself, do you accept and love them in yourself, and how you may continue to improve and evolve these aspects within yourself.
And then, you can share this with others around you as well.
Have a nice day
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err...throw half finished tetra pack drinks not so bad hor??
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Solution 1
Give a little boy 20 cents and say, "Little boy, can you help Uncle to finish up this drink?"
Solution 2
Feed the drink to any stray cats or dogs.
Solution 3
Secretly pour the leftover drink into someone's bag, be it your friend or a stranger.
Solution 4
Never drink when you go out, or if u must, ask the kopitiam auntie to dispense the soft drink directly down your throat.
Solution 5
Force the leftover drink and ice down your throat. Then, eat up the cup/can/bottle if you can, to reduce waste production. -
Nice of u to want to share your ideas, even if it was done in sacarsm. The thing is to focus on solutions, not criticisms or attacks (personal or otherwise). And also on sharing, which is the purpose of the internet.
May everyone adopt a collegial attitude of sharing and mutual help, we're all in this together on this planet. Let's make it beautiful.Originally posted by freakass:
[b]Solution 1
Give a little boy 20 cents and say, "Little boy, can you help Uncle to finish up this drink?"
Solution 2
Feed the drink to any stray cats or dogs.
Solution 3
Secretly pour the leftover drink into someone's bag, be it your friend or a stranger.
Solution 4
Never drink when you go out, or if u must, ask the kopitiam auntie to dispense the soft drink directly down your throat.
Solution 5
Force the leftover drink and ice down your throat. Then, eat up the cup/can/bottle if you can, to reduce waste production.[/b] -
*IMPT* Please put the fking black trash bag in the fking dustbin!!!
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Thanks Bedok Ah Beng... So does that mean that I can be labelled as an intelligent human being now?
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Actually if there's a toilet nearby I will just dump my unfinished drinks into the sink before throwing the cup/can away. If not, just empty it onto the grass patch or sth lor.. Some ppl say it will attract ants, but let's put it this way - grass patches are not free from ants either even if u dun dump your drinks there. Unless you are saying it will breed more ants?
At the end of the day, best solution is to finish the bloody drink la... -
yupz KangZ... you're right... the bottomline is: FINISH YOUR DRINK! If you decide to buy a can of drink, make sure u can finish it.... or else buy a bottled one where u can put the cap back on and bring the leftover home.... for those who have the habit of bringing along unfinished drinks from kopitiams, fastfood places, coffee cafes etc, make sure u finish them... if not, leave them there and dont bring them along with u!
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No problem, Freakass.Originally posted by freakass:Thanks Bedok Ah Beng... So does that mean that I can be labelled as an intelligent human being now?
You see what I was saying about misunderstanding? The fact is, I *never* labelled (or even implied) that you or 'Andy Lau' were non-intelligent human beings (which you misunderstood me to do so).
What I was saying about the 'intelligence' bit is this. Some started criticizing and attacking in a non-productive way, such as, "what if pple slip on ice cube? or what if the sweet drink cause ant problem?", instead of offering productive solutions to the problems they speak of.
So I'm saying, use your intelligence (because everyone here is intelligent!) to *work out a solution* to the problem you mention, instead of unproductively just criticizing, "nope, your suggestion got problem. this got problem. that got problem", which is honestly not helping the situation. In fact, my concern is that pple who read their post, may get the wrong idea, and continue to throw drinks into rubbish bin.
So remember, I *never* do personal attacks. My "do u understand now? if not forget it", is not mean to say "u are not intelligent", it is merely an expression of my frustration at being misunderstood again and again. And my "if not, forget it" isn't signifying "i give up coz u can't understand", but my intention was, "i don't want to start a flame war on internet forum, so i'm gonna leave it alone", which is basically what 'andy lau' did, which I appreciated.
I don't like flame wars nor personal attacks, which is why I try not to start any such things. But misunderstandings are commonplace, so it's nobody's fault here (it's not productive to put blame on anyone), let's all just work together for a better tomorrow. -
x2 agree...Originally posted by browniebaobao:I read it before I post.
I understand ur intention, but I dun think it's a good solution.
Well, there are recyle bins out there collecting drinks cans etc right?
Why would u advise people to pour away the drinks in drains etc. If u think u are very intelligent to come out with this solution, then I'm telling u that more problem will arise.
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Et Tu, Brutus?Originally posted by BrUtUs:x2 agree... 
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Touching on to what Ultima has quoted on the issue of unfinished drinks can and containers that are disposed in the bins, how about unfinished food containers? Isn't food having higher decomposition rate than beverage?
Often me see people dispose their food, either with dripping sauces and not consumed completely into the bins, which pose the same problematic issues as beverages? The worst of all is that food invites even bigger pests, birds to swamp in to pick on the food and littering the floor with more debris.
No doubt that there will be people who are unhappy that things turn out, but we have to understand that it's all human nature and upbringings. If you ask me whether would me do the same, frankly speaking, me would also like throwing unfinished drinks and food into bins, but most of the times that me had to do such a way is due to constraints and rush of events. At least fundamentally we have people disposing the items into bins and not anywhere else, at this moment of time, there will always be a minority group to do things differently. -
come on!! just listen to the man!
