10 April 06 The New Paper : "Poly Students stupid & childish
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This is a useless argument that goes in circles.
Both institutions offer alternative schools of study. It's all about CHOICE.
Just because LKY, aka the govt, issued the decree that the GCE 'A' Lvl certificate would be the automatic passport into university, many to this day still stereotype (absurbly) that polytechnics are for losers and 2nd tier students.
This is absolute CRAP.
In fact, there are always at least 2 kinds of polytechnic students:
Classification (1): those who CHOOSE to go polytechnics for a specific specialisation.
Classification (2): those who HAVE NO CHOICE but to go polytechnics.
It's obvious that item (2) are for those who performed badly; but then again, which institution doesn't have such students? It's naive to think that item (2) represents the majority of poly students.
As for item (1), it illustrates a group of students who at a tender age of 16, have already DECIDED upon their path and are studying their course of interest and possibly, their future career. What does that speak of their maturity and field of thought?
On top of that, the top 5% of poly students are offered places in the university and this allocation is set to rise in the future, dispelling the myth that diplomas are the limit of their education.
For those misguided few, please wake up. The world isn't square and a school is what you make of it. -
Watch your words. I scored 12 for my L1R5, i go to the poly. I don like to study like nard so i go poly. Some of my frins go to those lousy jc, hey 16 L1R5 can end up in jc too. Some jc are really lousy lo so don think that jc ppl are very clever. Btw, for the maths thing, I gotten myself a Distinction and a High Distinction when i was sent by my school for the Australian Maths Competition. Is my maths worse than you??Originally posted by Icemoon:Depends on what you're studying. I think poly students will have difficulty in Maths, for example, compared with jc students. And with so many cross faculty modules to take, the advantage they hold is reduced. -
Originally posted by BillyBong:
So what you are trying to say is, Those that cannot make it to JC are stupid because they got no choice?
This is a useless argument that goes in circles.
Both institutions offer alternative schools of study. It's all about [b]CHOICE.
Just because LKY, aka the govt, issued the decree that the GCE 'A' Lvl certificate would be the automatic passport into university, many to this day still stereotype (absurbly) that polytechnics are for losers and 2nd tier students.
This is absolute CRAP.
In fact, there are always at least 2 kinds of polytechnic students:
Classification (1): those who CHOOSE to go polytechnics for a specific specialisation.
Classification (2): those who HAVE NO CHOICE but to go polytechnics.
It's obvious that item (2) are for those who performed badly; but then again, which institution doesn't have such students? It's naive to think that item (2) represents the majority of poly students.
As for item (1), it illustrates a group of students who at a tender age of 16, have already DECIDED upon their path and are studying their course of interest and possibly, their future career. What does that speak of their maturity and field of thought?
On top of that, the top 5% of poly students are offered places in the university and this allocation is set to rise in the future, dispelling the myth that diplomas are the limit of their education.
For those misguided few, please wake up. The world isn't square and a school is what you make of it.
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my popcorn no more liao...someone pass me more popcorn i want to watch show leh!
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catch no ball...what is the argument about?
If this is about whether A level cert or poly cert better it's obvious...I will employ poly grads who are trained to do the job I have, whereas A level grads are not much use for me. I need technical knowledge, not stuff about theoretical physics and further mathematics. But of course the A level grads are not going to stop there...they must go to Uni or else they cannot find a good job.. -
The argument is about whether poly or jc students ks more in mapleOriginally posted by oxford mushroom:catch no ball...what is the argument about?
If this is about whether A level cert or poly cert better it's obvious...I will employ poly grads who are trained to do the job I have, whereas A level grads are not much use for me. I need technical knowledge, not stuff about theoretical physics and further mathematics. But of course the A level grads are not going to stop there...they must go to Uni or else they cannot find a good job.. -
I am smarter. I graduated from Fugue University of Fortune Telling with a PHD in Dzi beadology.
both lose to me. -
another pointless thread
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JC students doesnt means smart
Make it to Poly doesnt mean stupid
ITE students may be smart.
why???? its all about hardwork. If u r lazy , u get lousy results.
even if u really smart so wat?? come out to this society still need hardwork , got brains alone no use...... no brains got hardwork still can survive -
Are you being sarcastic? Or probing for inflamatory replies?Originally posted by Agenda:So what you are trying to say is, Those that cannot make it to JC are stupid because they got no choice?
Firstly, the word 'STUPID' was nowhere in my post.
Secondly, it is CLEAR that my argument was based on the fiction that many people mistakenly believe the majority of students in poly are there because they form the percentile that didn't make their first choice - JC; when in truth, many are there by CHOICE. -
AI YA ....Icemoon - to me this is damn funny .Originally posted by 040668f:_____________________________________________________________
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Originally posted by Icemoon:
Depends on what you're studying. I think poly students will have difficulty in Maths, for example, compared with jc students. And with so many cross faculty modules to take, the advantage they hold is reduced.
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Watch your words. I scored 12 for my L1R5, i go to the poly. I don like to study like nard so i go poly. Some of my frins go to those lousy jc, hey 16 L1R5 can end up in jc too. Some jc are really lousy lo so don think that jc ppl are very clever. Btw, for the maths thing, I gotten myself a Distinction and a High Distinction when i was sent by my school for the Australian Maths Competition. Is my maths worse than you??
Come tell me my maths is so bad - I am a poly grad . Let's see you do meta analysis of several countries - oh yeah multivariate epidemiological analysis.
Come on people. Nothing special about JC or poly - they both give you a foundation to discover a career, a pathway , a like for a certain specialty.
It is what you make of yourself and your future that matters.
Do you really want to argue about how great your institutions are when there are people out there with PhDs or Masters from top universities?
Ever published a paper in a reputable peer reviewed journal? Or even attempted?
If not, nothing special about where you are. You are just another individual ekking out a living in this world , just like me . -
Originally posted by BillyBong:
That's how you place it to me, Tone is always very important in a source
Are you being sarcastic? Or probing for inflamatory replies?
Firstly, the word '[b]STUPID' was nowhere in my post.
Secondly, it is CLEAR that my argument was based on the fiction that many people mistakenly believe the majority of students in poly are there because they form the percentile that didn't make their first choice - JC; when in truth, many are there by CHOICE.
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Besides, You're very ironic -
if u got the brain, opportunities will look for u. no point arguing who's better, let ur own future decides.
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Originally posted by skyfoo:if u got the brain, opportunities will look for u. no point arguing who's better, let ur own future decides. got brain, create opportunties. No brain wait for opportunities
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Irony is ironic. I'm amazed you missed the point anyway.Originally posted by Agenda:That's how you place it to me, Tone is always very important in a source
Besides, You're very ironic
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*eats chips*....
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*takes some chips and munches*Originally posted by CoolMyth:*eats chips*.... -
Shucks man.... this discussion is still ongoing?
Let me help you guys summarise everything: that bugger who puts down poly students is a jerk and a loser. To call him an idiot would be an insult to idiots, and he rivals only Salman with his extreme bigotry, arrogance, and tunnel vision. He makes us all JC students look bad. JC students should never follow in his path, and poly students should never assume that all JC students are like that.
In the end, we are all students with a common goal: the pursuit of knowledge. We just walk different paths to reach it, be it via JC or poly.
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*takes all the chips and munches somewhere else*Originally posted by fymk:*takes some chips and munches*
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Today's ZB featured threads
From YoungPAP forum, the forumite says the JC student never think. More and more ppl are going to the poly though they are eligible for JC courses... Maybe eventually the good ones goes to poly...
They have not woken up to the new reality
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Originally posted by sbst275:Today's ZB featured threads
From YoungPAP forum, the forumite says the JC student never think. More and more ppl are going to the poly though they are eligible for JC courses... Maybe eventually the good ones goes to poly...
They have not woken up to the new reality
It's sad they are right.. Read properly... Better future for them if you go poly -
I guess the distinguishing point of JC and Poly is only that theres a uniform for JC while there isnt any for poly...
To me its just 2 different mode of study..Im from a poly and i've never had the thought that JC students are smarter or for this case..Poly students inferior...
Its bewildering why some people give such mindless comment such as poly students are stupid...inferior etc etc...I would feel real offended by these comments and so poly students...We should stop this bickering and fall into this degenerating cycle...
I would be offended too if im from a JC and others call JC students a nerd...
Because that would be stereotyping and unfair to them..
To those that think L1R5 is everything...Let me sincerely tell you that it is not and for this matter, a lousy L1R5 dosent make suddenly become transformed
to a failure or stupid person. Surveys show that people who suffer a higher risk of cancer have a lighter in their house. So lighters cause cancer??
Get the correlation right..A poor L1R5 ( not able to get into JC, decide not to go into a JC ) dosent make one stupid...
I would end to say that even if i could run or swim faster then someone one..It dosent not give me the right to call them "slow"..Get my point?
Cheers..Chopsticks bundled are stronger -
where's the article?
I haven read it.. but so many ple discuss abt it liao..
who's the writer? Ask him/her to go bang wall. -
argument is about why jc sucks so much and why poly rocksOriginally posted by oxford mushroom:catch no ball...what is the argument about?
If this is about whether A level cert or poly cert better it's obvious...I will employ poly grads who are trained to do the job I have, whereas A level grads are not much use for me. I need technical knowledge, not stuff about theoretical physics and further mathematics. But of course the A level grads are not going to stop there...they must go to Uni or else they cannot find a good job.. -
one more thing.. why never include ITE students inside ah.. e more e merrier..