Do laptop and desktop nowadays come with full Windows CD?
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I had bad bad experience before with my Compaq laptop. The so-called Restore CD is not a complete Windows XP CD. I don't know what the hell Compaq put a major part of the Windows XP installation files in another partition of the same hard drive. The Restore CD will need to work with the hard drive partition to reinstall Windows XP.
Damn stupid right? What if the whole hard disk crash? Then I couldn't reinstall Windows already!
But, my hands were itchy. I didn't know it was the case and removed the partition (God damn it). Then when I use the Restore CD and it asked for the partition location for full Windows XP installation image. Then I was like a dumb.
WTF! Then I called Compaq and they said, there was another called Recovery CD (different from Restore CD), but I got pay for it. Damn it. At the end, I had no choice but use a 'special edition' of Windows.
That was really a bad experience. I want to ask anyone who bought laptop recently. Does your laptop come with FULL Windows XP CD? It should be like the 'special edition' that we can easily find in Malaysia. It doesn't need the god-damn-it partition in the hard drive for full Windows installation.
Thanks for sharing your experience. If Compaq still gives that kind of setup, I won't buy from them anymore! -
Compaq still around? I always thought it was HP. HP and Venture Manufacturing are very good buddies.
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Luckiliy, mine did.
Using it on my sls com. -
not even for laptop...PC also...they only give recovery CD...so if a few applications like outlook or whatever gets corrupted and U need to reinstall...then U have a problem...Originally posted by findingnewidea:I had bad bad experience before with my Compaq laptop. The so-called Restore CD is not a complete Windows XP CD. I don't know what the hell Compaq put a major part of the Windows XP installation files in another partition of the same hard drive. The Restore CD will need to work with the hard drive partition to reinstall Windows XP.
Damn stupid right? What if the whole hard disk crash? Then I couldn't reinstall Windows already!
But, my hands were itchy. I didn't know it was the case and removed the partition (God damn it). Then when I use the Restore CD and it asked for the partition location for full Windows XP installation image. Then I was like a dumb.
WTF! Then I called Compaq and they said, there was another called Recovery CD (different from Restore CD), but I got pay for it. Damn it. At the end, I had no choice but use a 'special edition' of Windows.
That was really a bad experience. I want to ask anyone who bought laptop recently. Does your laptop come with FULL Windows XP CD? It should be like the 'special edition' that we can easily find in Malaysia. It doesn't need the god-damn-it partition in the hard drive for full Windows installation.
Thanks for sharing your experience. If Compaq still gives that kind of setup, I won't buy from them anymore!
in fact I think most of the hardware companies nowadays give recovery CD because their target customers are different....theirs are those who dun want to know too much about computers...as long as their systems can work can already...
since U are adventurous enough to delete off the partition...I think U belong more to the SLS DIY group... 
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It's not only Compaq but other Pc manufacturers. I recently bought an Asus laptop from the IT Show and it came with a pre-installed XP Home Edition.
The C: is also paritioned with a recovery portion.
Actually, the Pc manufacturers are not to blame - culprit is Mr B Gates. The copy of the pre-installed Windows is called OEM edition and is already "bundled" into the BIOS (read it somewhere on the web) so it could not be transplanted to another Pc. In other words, Microsoft has so far found a way to "hard code" the pre-installed copy of Windows to the specific Pc, thus stopping software pirates in their tracks.
I guess you could get a RM6 copy from JB to install onto your laptop but then it is not a genuine copy and will not pass the validation tool from Microsoft.
Hope the above explanation helps.
CPL
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For laptop i not sure.. but for desktop, let me share my experience.. I had 2 computers at home... for the Acer one, it comes with the recovery CD with Win XP inside.. so everytime I wanna reformat, jus put in the CD.. As for my other computer which is a Dell, though it comes with recovery CD, but if I wanna reformat, no need the CD, the recovery software is already built in.. jus press and hold a button and the reformat will start upon booting up..
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my bloody fujitsu also no win xp cd stupid recovery disc
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The version of Windows Xp installed in your computer is not a retail version. The difference is the price. The one that is pre-installed in a computer is lisensed to the manufacturer by Microsoft, thus, it is much cheaper than the retail version. While a retail version can be installed on many different computers (only 1 at a time), the Windows that come with your Compaq can only be install on that computer, thus it is cheaper.Originally posted by findingnewidea:I had bad bad experience before with my Compaq laptop. The so-called Restore CD is not a complete Windows XP CD. I don't know what the hell Compaq put a major part of the Windows XP installation files in another partition of the same hard drive. The Restore CD will need to work with the hard drive partition to reinstall Windows XP.
Damn stupid right? What if the whole hard disk crash? Then I couldn't reinstall Windows already!
But, my hands were itchy. I didn't know it was the case and removed the partition (God damn it). Then when I use the Restore CD and it asked for the partition location for full Windows XP installation image. Then I was like a dumb.
WTF! Then I called Compaq and they said, there was another called Recovery CD (different from Restore CD), but I got pay for it. Damn it. At the end, I had no choice but use a 'special edition' of Windows.
That was really a bad experience. I want to ask anyone who bought laptop recently. Does your laptop come with FULL Windows XP CD? It should be like the 'special edition' that we can easily find in Malaysia. It doesn't need the god-damn-it partition in the hard drive for full Windows installation.
Thanks for sharing your experience. If Compaq still gives that kind of setup, I won't buy from them anymore!
Most brands of computers do this now, however, by paying around S$100 more, you can request Compaq to install a retail version instead of the lisensed version. This can only be done at the time of purchase. Only by doing this, will you get a complete Windows Xp disc, together with the box and etc... -
Restore CD is just to help Windows recover in case you did something wrong. It doesn't include a complete reformat or reinstall, which needs the Windows XP CD. Recovery CD is the same, only got more features.Originally posted by findingnewidea:I had bad bad experience before with my Compaq laptop. The so-called Restore CD is not a complete Windows XP CD. I don't know what the hell Compaq put a major part of the Windows XP installation files in another partition of the same hard drive. The Restore CD will need to work with the hard drive partition to reinstall Windows XP.
Damn stupid right? What if the whole hard disk crash? Then I couldn't reinstall Windows already!
But, my hands were itchy. I didn't know it was the case and removed the partition (God damn it). Then when I use the Restore CD and it asked for the partition location for full Windows XP installation image. Then I was like a dumb.
WTF! Then I called Compaq and they said, there was another called Recovery CD (different from Restore CD), but I got pay for it. Damn it. At the end, I had no choice but use a 'special edition' of Windows.
That was really a bad experience. I want to ask anyone who bought laptop recently. Does your laptop come with FULL Windows XP CD? It should be like the 'special edition' that we can easily find in Malaysia. It doesn't need the god-damn-it partition in the hard drive for full Windows installation.
Thanks for sharing your experience. If Compaq still gives that kind of setup, I won't buy from them anymore!
This is just one of the marketing techniques used to get customers to pay. Restore CD cost less, because it isn't the OS. However, if you want the full the XP CD, you have to buy from them. Another 300 bucks gone.
I'm not quite sure of the situation right now as I buy everything from school, so I have the full XP CD. If you don't want to pay that much, just get the original CD from Sim Lim or Funan. It costs less from buying from these manufacturers. -
Illegal downloads are available on the torrent network.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Restore CD is just to help Windows recover in case you did something wrong. It doesn't include a complete reformat or reinstall, which needs the Windows XP CD. Recovery CD is the same, only got more features.
This is just one of the marketing techniques used to get customers to pay. Restore CD cost less, because it isn't the OS. However, if you want the full the XP CD, you have to buy from them. Another 300 bucks gone.
I'm not quite sure of the situation right now as I buy everything from school, so I have the full XP CD. If you don't want to pay that much, just get the original CD from Sim Lim or Funan. It costs less from buying from these manufacturers.
Warning: Extra steps and technique required to get the downloaded version work. Also, its not legal. Do it at your own risk -
The windows validation tool will be the least of your problems. They cracked it overnight when Microsuck released the validation program.Originally posted by CPL:It's not only Compaq but other Pc manufacturers. I recently bought an Asus laptop from the IT Show and it came with a pre-installed XP Home Edition.
The C: is also paritioned with a recovery portion.
Actually, the Pc manufacturers are not to blame - culprit is Mr B Gates. The copy of the pre-installed Windows is called OEM edition and is already "bundled" into the BIOS (read it somewhere on the web) so it could not be transplanted to another Pc. In other words, Microsoft has so far found a way to "hard code" the pre-installed copy of Windows to the specific Pc, thus stopping software pirates in their tracks.
I guess you could get a RM6 copy from JB to install onto your laptop but then it is not a genuine copy and will not pass the validation tool from Microsoft.
Hope the above explanation helps.
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compaq and hq are together la
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No choice lah, the Win XP pre-installed on your laptop is the OEM version, hardcoded to your laptop, which disallow duplications of softwares.
Only way to get back your Win XP after reformatting your harddisk is to pay a visit to their service centre and get it done. But bear in mind that they will still partition the harddisk to store the Win XP installation files.
My 24 cents for thoughs! -
Compaq and HP. Not HQ.Originally posted by toyota-corolla:compaq and hq are together la -
actually the problem comes only when U dun want to do a full reformat...but just need some files for certain applications/OS.Originally posted by LancerVII:For laptop i not sure.. but for desktop, let me share my experience.. I had 2 computers at home... for the Acer one, it comes with the recovery CD with Win XP inside.. so everytime I wanna reformat, jus put in the CD.. As for my other computer which is a Dell, though it comes with recovery CD, but if I wanna reformat, no need the CD, the recovery software is already built in.. jus press and hold a button and the reformat will start upon booting up.. -
validation crack available on the net...if the pirates up north havent put it into their CD too.Originally posted by CPL:I guess you could get a RM6 copy from JB to install onto your laptop but then it is not a genuine copy and will not pass the validation tool from Microsoft. -
this is screwed up...
i've paid license for the @*&T$@( software but due to hardware failure i gotta get another one??
that's $^(@)*!!
i'm getting an Apple in future..
in the meantime, does anyone have a "friendly" version of xp i can borrow?
my notebook's HDD is about to die, i have a new HDD and i can't do a single thing with the new HDD
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Just pop over to bolehland and get a full copy of XP SP2 for RM6...own time own target..
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My Acer PC comes with the full Windows XP disc. I used it on my dad's laptop which was originally Linux
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my old compaq pc also came with the restore cd. what they did was use a backup program similar to norton ghost, and expand the compressed image (so that win98 and compaq bundled software could fit into a cd) so that u could boot right into windows like when u first bought the pc.
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if you want a complete windows cd, u will have to pay for it most of the time
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NEC laptop dun come with full windows CD too..... Only have that recovery disk. I guess they us such stratergy to earn more money from us.
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everyone says dell sucks...maybe that's why they give one big pile of cds, including the OS disc.
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as far as i know, most Laptops, when you buy, they will NOT give you the XP cds...as because its wat you say, the OEM version already in the HDD.
Even for custom made Desktops (i dont know about standardized desktops), they do not give XP cds...only give recovery discs. -
well, i have one XP sp2 reinstallation disc that came with the pc....dun tell me it's pirated.Originally posted by nightzip:as far as i know, most Laptops, when you buy, they will NOT give you the XP cds...as because its wat you say, the OEM version already in the HDD.
Even for custom made Desktops (i dont know about standardized desktops), they do not give XP cds...only give recovery discs.