Your vote can be traced to you.
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Remember government and MM Lee said on TV saying your vote cannot be traced to you and there's no way they can find out what you vote....
apparently the elections department themselves said your vote can be traced to you. The ballot paper has a serial number that will be recorded against your name.
http://www.elections.gov.sg/secrecy.htm
Theoretically, it is possible for anyone with access to the ballot papers to identify who cast a particular vote
Hmm, even though Govt say there are safeguards and stuff like that, all it needs is a law change for the safeguards to go away....
The majority government has no strong enough opposition to vote against any law change.... remember? -
yes!
then why don't they remove the serial number thing?
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fair ge pi
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They "claimed" that if there is no serial number, people will sneak out of polling station and make copies of the ballots and come back later to vote many times.Originally posted by R3SsH|n:yes!
then why don't they remove the serial number thing?
Crap.. -
If I vote for opposition, my vote will be traced and government will make my life very difficult.
Civil servants lagi worse, don't need to tell you what might happen. -
den why must the serial number be attached to the name..just make sure that there is no duplicate can liao..Originally posted by Ponders:They "claimed" that if there is no serial number, people will sneak out of polling station and make copies of the ballots and come back later to vote many times.
Crap.. -
That's lagi easier to traceOriginally posted by stellazio:den why must the serial number be attached to the name..just make sure that there is no duplicate can liao.. 
Number, they would need to go through the list or computer to trace you -
nonsense..who so bo liao go and do this kind of crap..if they have faith in their own candidates..then they shouldn't be afraid of this kind of circumstances..Originally posted by Ponders:They "claimed" that if there is no serial number, people will sneak out of polling station and make copies of the ballots and come back later to vote many times.
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talk cock.Originally posted by Ponders:They "claimed" that if there is no serial number, people will sneak out of polling station and make copies of the ballots and come back later to vote many times.
Crap..
they can make paper money that cannot be forged easily why cant make voting slip w/o serial number?
money has more than serial number anti-forge property. -
why not this way...scan IC...the staff will check you have not voted yet...then pass u one voting slip and u go into the box and vote...
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According to Elections Department they say got such ppl doing such things. haahOriginally posted by R3SsH|n:nonsense..who so bo liao go and do this kind of crap..if they have faith in their own candidates..then they shouldn't be afraid of this kind of circumstances..
Not so much about having faith in their own candidates... its that they have no faith and want to vote the incumbent out. So have to resort to such things. -
Next time lift upgrading, you wonder why only your particular floor no lift landing. Mail delivered by singpost somehow doesn't appear in your mailbox. Your singtel telephone line charges more than you actually use. IRAs fines you for not paying taxes, although you're not eligible to pay at all. Your ezlink card has more errors scanning at the exit than usual. No matter how you try, you will never be able to access the islandwide broadband services, and even if you do, one way or another, it sucks. The rest is up to your imagination.
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then they can doctored everything and expects us to believe in it...its already a controlled election and government..Originally posted by Ponders:According to Elections Department they say got such ppl doing such things. haah
Not so much about having faith in their own candidates... its that they have no faith and want to vote the incumbent out. So have to resort to such things. -
sounds fun !Originally posted by ditzy:Next time lift upgrading, you wonder why only your particular floor no lift landing. Mail delivered by singpost somehow doesn't appear in your mailbox. Your singtel telephone line charges more than you actually use. IRAs fines you for not paying taxes, although you're not eligible to pay at all. Your ezlink card has more errors scanning at the exit than usual. No matter how you try, you will never be able to access the islandwide broadband services, and even if you do, one way or another, it sucks. The rest is up to your imagination. -
and when u log in sgforums...u r banned immediatelyOriginally posted by ditzy:Next time lift upgrading, you wonder why only your particular floor no lift landing. Mail delivered by singpost somehow doesn't appear in your mailbox. Your singtel telephone line charges more than you actually use. IRAs fines you for not paying taxes, although you're not eligible to pay at all. Your ezlink card has more errors scanning at the exit than usual. No matter how you try, you will never be able to access the islandwide broadband services, and even if you do, one way or another, it sucks. The rest is up to your imagination. 
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I believed DPM Wong Kan Seng and what he mentioned. Actually, SM Goh is very serious when he offered upgrading program to Realty Park residents. To simpfly it, can considered drawing the park out of Patong Pasir will do..or just ask for internal voting for upgrading.
Upgrading is good. "Fang Xin, Fang Xin, Fang le hui pian Xin Xin" -
Yes, actually in a proper election, a ballot cannot have any kind of unique or identfiable markings or numbers. This ensures ballot secrecy.Originally posted by R3SsH|n:why not this way...scan IC...the staff will check you have not voted yet...then pass u one voting slip and u go into the box and vote...
this eliminates the double voting...
But for them to say our ballot have serial number is scary.
Indonesia have dual ballot system, every one gets 2 ballots and will put one each in different box. The dropping of ballots is witnessed by an officer.
This way, the 2nd box acts as a control to the first to ensure the numbers concile.
Plus, they use blue and red paper with hologram. Somethign one cannot easily photocopy.
Unlike Singapore, we use plain white paper with black and white ink... they really asking for it ah. -
There is one problem, Realty park is part of hougang, not potong pasir.Originally posted by king108: I believed DPM Wong Kan Seng and what he mentioned. Actually, SM Goh is very serious when he offered upgrading program to Realty Park residents. To simpfly it, can considered drawing the park out of Patong Pasir will do..or just ask for internal voting for upgrading.
Upgrading is good. "Fang Xin, Fang Xin, Fang le hui pian Xin Xin" -
separate the balloting centres into guy and girl centres.
at a centre all balloters r requested to strip naked and leave their belongings in a locker outside the ballot stations. only their NRIC are allowed. of course all the people work there are same gender one la.
then you dun need to worry ppl stuff things in pocket and create the so-called 'chained balloting' -
Sorry I northern tortise..Originally posted by ditzy:There is one problem, Realty park is part of hougang, not potong pasir. -
[quote]Originally posted by Ponders:
Yes, actually in a proper election, a ballot cannot have any kind of unique or identfiable markings or numbers. This ensures ballot secrecy.
But for them to say our ballot have serial number is scary.
Indonesia have dual ballot system, every one gets 2 ballots and will put one each in different box. The dropping of ballots is witnessed by an officer.
This way, the 2nd box acts as a control to the first to ensure the numbers concile.
Plus, they use blue and red paper with hologram. Somethign one cannot easily photocopy.
Unlike Singapore, we use plain white paper with black and white ink... they really asking for it ah.[/quote
yea..serial number<-->ic number=bang bang...
why not get a third party vote system?
i am reading up on switerland's vote system...they are proposing to help the USA to coduct their election to prevent another screw up like a couple of years ago in florida... -
something like this could be feasible in the near future..
http://www.swissvs.org/pdf/SwissVS_Compatibility_Guidelines.PDF -
Good idea... this will be in line with last time PM Goh's goal to make singapore living to Swiss Standard.Originally posted by R3SsH|n:something like this could be feasible in the near future..
http://www.swissvs.org/pdf/SwissVS_Compatibility_Guidelines.PDF
i think SM goh stopped chasign that dream when Swiss Air went bankrupt. haha. -
Next thing you guys know, they will be dusting fingerprints on the ballot papers, or the serial number may be written in invisible ink which can only be seen under UV light or something..
Paranoid conspiracy theories.. Haha.. The govt is brainwashing us now... brain washing.... -
Originally posted by Misogynist:Next thing you guys know, they will be dusting fingerprints on the ballot papers, or the serial number may be written in invisible ink which can only be seen under UV light or something..
Paranoid conspiracy theories.. Haha.. The govt is brainwashing us now... brain washing.... TCS never employ you as creative director is really a waste of talent