Adeline koh encourages stupidity(elitism)!!!
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nah...wat makes you think that poly students know only hands on but no theory n brains?Originally posted by freakass:With regards to the rumour that poly students are more ready for work, I feel that it's true but poly graduates and uni graduates have different roles to play in the society.... we need hands-on people, but we need the theory people behind them too....
For those who have been through army, you should understand this well... The officers dont know much about hands-on... all they know is talk and talk, while the specialists and the men do the work... but without the brains behind, it would not work out...
So i wouldnt say that JC students will become elites next time, but rather they will play a different role as compared to poly students... and the society is such that the brains and theory ppl will be ranked higher up on the corporate ladder... this is a society norm which no one can argue lah so let's just face it....
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Actually they know what.Originally posted by freakass:For those who have been through army, you should understand this well... The officers dont know much about hands-on... all they know is talk and talk, while the specialists and the men do the work... but without the brains behind, it would not work out...
They studied more things in OCS you know? -
Yupz I like your attitude... Accept comments graciously and make sensible comments rather than flame others... And i also agree with you that her style of writing is not very tactical....Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:I don't mind facing it, but I don't see the need to demoralize poly students and vice versa.
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I mind.....Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:I don't mind facing it, but I don't see the need to demoralize poly students and vice versa. -
You might as well compare a Master degree student with a PhD student. All are also postgraduate students. No difference.Originally posted by freakass:Actually, personally i believe that you can only compare poly and uni students... and noy poly and JC students cos JC education is actually a higher form of sec sch education that prepares you for university....
And with regards to your example, once again it's just a minority case...
My point is not to say that she is correct, but just to stress that she has got a different viewpoint from you guys... she's generalising while you guys tend to pick out the elite few to compare.... All are correct... Everyone is free to make his or her own viewpoints... -
Poly students does know theory also... and they also have brains... what i mean is that they dont go so much in detail... all the theory they learn is sufficient for hands-on and industry standards.... while uni students learn more into the theoretical details...Originally posted by dcx:nah...wat makes you think that poly students know only hands on but no theory n brains? -
Really no different.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:You might as well compare a Master degree student with a PhD student. All are also postgraduate students. No difference.
In many cases, masters are those who failed their PhD thesis defense? -
Well you said it yourself... they STUDIED more things in OCS.... they study alot... they know a lot... but when it comes to hands-on, they got like 1-time experience in everything they learn.... This is exactly the uni graduate vs poly graduate scenarioOriginally posted by Icemoon:Actually they know what.
They studied more things in OCS you know? -
Don't praise me so fast, I am not as gracious as you think.Originally posted by freakass:Yupz I like your attitude... Accept comments graciously and make sensible comments rather than flame others... And i also agree with you that her style of writing is not very tactical....
I still have my own thinking, of which I won't hesitate to flame if one goes overboard. -
Originally posted by BrUtUs:wheres the pix of "burn the house, kill the family" or something when u need them...?
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I'm not saying you're wrong or wat lah......am just driving to her comparision of jc student better than poly students...that's all.....Originally posted by freakass:Actually, personally i believe that you can only compare poly and uni students... and noy poly and JC students cos JC education is actually a higher form of sec sch education that prepares you for university....
And with regards to your example, once again it's just a minority case...
My point is not to say that she is correct, but just to stress that she has got a different viewpoint from you guys... she's generalising while you guys tend to pick out the elite few to compare.... All are correct... Everyone is free to make his or her own viewpoints...
I just don't like the way she structured herself.....
And why can only compare poly n uni only?
What about ITE? -
Ok ppl, im going to sleep.... Im not for any side of the argument here... just wanna say that we should all be open to different viewpoints and not be so defensive...
Goodnight!
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That one I don't know. I haven't reached this stage of studies of yet. I don't even think I can make it. No money, and I am not hardworking.Originally posted by Icemoon:Really no different.
In many cases, masters are those who failed their PhD thesis defense? -
It also means nothiing...Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:You might as well compare a Master degree student with a PhD student. All are also postgraduate students. No difference.
Does a PhD lawyer always win his cases? In fact, they ain't many lawyers in practice who pursued till PhD level.
Does an MBA student automcatically mean they are better businessmen than an O level entrepeuenuer? -
smarter cuz they choose to study harder during Os?
send all JC students for an IQ test man..she should sign up first.. -
Bring in ITE and we are going to have World War over the computer. Like ditzy said.Originally posted by dcx:I'm not saying you're wrong or wat lah......am just driving to her comparision of jc student better than poly students...that's all.....
I just don't like the way she structured herself.....
And why can only compare poly n uni only?
What about ITE? -
Once again, in my view, i see you're comparing poly n uni...and which is, uni students were that graduated from JC in comparison with poly grads.Originally posted by freakass:Poly students does know theory also... and they also have brains... what i mean is that they dont go so much in detail... all the theory they learn is sufficient for hands-on and industry standards.... while uni students learn more into the theoretical details...
Totally unfair, i would say...
It's of a different tertiary level, i would say again.....
If that comparison above is fair, i see no reason why comparison of JC and poly students are unfair.....yeah? -
More theoretical details are useless if the uni grad cannot synthesis and integrate. Then your level of competency is about the same as that of poly grads.Originally posted by freakass:Poly students does know theory also... and they also have brains... what i mean is that they dont go so much in detail... all the theory they learn is sufficient for hands-on and industry standards.... while uni students learn more into the theoretical details...
ndmmxiaomayi, you learn what is the pigeon hole principle?
how many IT degree holders can honestly use the pigeon hole principle to help them code? -
Politcally Correct answer that would be given
"We Excel in our own different rights, Be It Jc or Poly"
As in civil service case, try getting more poly graduates to be MPs
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yes this one... 10q...Originally posted by Deunamist: -
U sure about that? Ever encountered officers that know so much lesser than a spec? Even basic knowlegde n common sense thingy need to ask his men?Originally posted by freakass:Well you said it yourself... they STUDIED more things in OCS.... they study alot... they know a lot... but when it comes to hands-on, they got like 1-time experience in everything they learn.... This is exactly the uni graduate vs poly graduate scenario -
I think none. Tell this to my cousin and she goes "huh?"Originally posted by Icemoon:More theoretical details are useless if the uni grad cannot synthesis and integrate. Then your level of competency is about the same as that of poly grads.
ndmmxiaomayi, you learn what is the pigeon hole principle?
how many IT degree holders can honestly use the pigeon hole principle to help them code?
I haven't learn it anyway, but heard about it. Some weird thingy. -
They also hands on lah.Originally posted by freakass:Well you said it yourself... they STUDIED more things in OCS.... they study alot... they know a lot... but when it comes to hands-on, they got like 1-time experience in everything they learn.... This is exactly the uni graduate vs poly graduate scenario
You think OCS cadets easy life ah?
Unless you trying to compare CSM with the 2LT .. -
question about OCS..they take in more JC students..but the diploma is worth more den an A level cert..
its not like they gone into uni and came out with a degree already.. -
Originally posted by stellazio:smarter cuz they choose to study harder during Os?
send all JC students for an IQ test man..she should sign up first..