Adeline koh encourages stupidity(elitism)!!!
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i never thought that going to a jc is the natural and prestige path...the so-called path that you should take so that you will have a better life when you grow older...thats bullsh!t to me...
so never you dare tell me that everyone wants to get into a jc... -
i guess she jealous that her poly friends could enter and she couldn'tOriginally posted by vito_corleone:so smart go to oxford to study english la go to nus for what...
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A government won't write this standard of English to irk people.Originally posted by LazerLordz:could be a government plant.
It's easy to fake your name. But a check with FASS will clear things out.
This girl is an insult to NUS, English Language and Literature Department.
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yeah, JC students even like to compare among their JC friends. some even killed themselves over grades n the size of their manhood.Originally posted by dcx:
Well....at least i don't see much comparison of ITE and polytechnic students...
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That why i keep stressing the *Most*Originally posted by R3SsH|n:that is so not true...
i never ever wanted to get into a jc...even if i score 6points..5points...4points..who cares...i wouldn't get into a jc for the life of me...
Most in a general term. U may think u nv want to go JC but that will always be ppl who harbour hopes of getting in rite -
That was when I was young. During my secondary school days, I changed my mind.Originally posted by pierre^^:That why i keep stressing the *Most*
Most in a general term. U may think u nv want to go JC but that will always be ppl who harbour hopes of getting in rite
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what happen?Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:That was when I was young. During my secondary school days, I changed my mind. -
Need to say ma?Originally posted by StarPuppy:what happen?
What to expect? They came and advertise their courses. Obviously, I was attracted to it. My cousin was already in JC that time, and I asked her enough questions about JC studies.
Edit: Corrected the point whereby JC doesn't offer computing subjects. Thanks LazerLordz for the info.
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If the JC - Poly atttacks carry on, I think we have failed
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that's probably true for those born before 1985.Originally posted by pierre^^:That why i keep stressing the *Most*
Most in a general term. U may think u nv want to go JC but that will always be ppl who harbour hopes of getting in rite -
Computing is an A-level subject.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Need to say ma?
What to expect? They came and advertise their courses. Obviously, I was attracted to it. My cousin was already in JC that time, and I asked her enough questions about JC studies. I concluded that poly education is better, besides, JC don't teach IT. (JC students please correct me if I'm wrong on this point) Not all JCs offer it..my time..only heard of ACJC offering that. -
thats where the elitist problem comes into frame...you say people want to go into a jc...why do you think so?is it because jc has always been deemed as the elite course of path that every 16 yr old should take right after their O levels?if you feel this way...then you are thinking in the mindset of an elitist...Originally posted by pierre^^:That why i keep stressing the *Most*
Most in a general term. U may think u nv want to go JC but that will always be ppl who harbour hopes of getting in rite
it is for this reason and people like you that has planted this "seed of elitist" - and that a poly-jc war has begun in the first place...
if there was no elitist mindset...you think we would give a damn about how jc students or poly students are faring in their respective instituition? -
I think students, whoever, wherever, and whatever your standing is in the academia, should not allow yourselves to be carried away by these senseless and emotionally perplexing arguments.Originally posted by seow:Taken from togoparts.com
http://www.togoparts.com/forum/postreply.php?msgid=-1&fid=6&tid=46737&page_id=1
Courtesy of theodr of togoparts.
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"By Adeline Koh: Its no secret who's better
I hate to be blunt, but JC students are better than polytechnic students, period.
Politically incorrect I may sound, but here are the facts. Entry requirements at JCs are far more stringent than those at polys. As a result, large numbers of students who do not make the cut for JCs are "forced" to opt for a poly education.
Those who enter polys of their own choice remain the exception, rather than the rule. Also, when the Public Service Commission awards scholarships to Singapore's best and brightest, they look to JCs, not polytechnics.
Yes, polys have improved in recent years, but there is still a long way to go before the average poly student matches up to the average JC student.
Sad to say, but this is an open secret."
What's much more important in life, is how you WILL eventually SUCCEED in your life and in your career. Not where you are now or how you are rated, and or what people thinks of you.
Qualifications and "labelling" makes not an achiever, but one's own good judgement and perceptions in life. -
Her statements can be easily considered 'truth' when looking at the top JCs in Singapore - RJC, VJC, HCJC, and the like. Students from these JCs are among the most intelligent in Singapore and poised to have excellent careers.
However this is not so when talking about other JCs, where students barely scrape to enter. I won't mention their names to prevent discrimination, but it is commonly known that students from these JCs tend to get lousy A level results. Some with such poor grades have to even opt for Polytechnic education.
Using the term 'JC student' and trying to compare isn't a general standard that can be easily applied. Rather, I think its the final A level grades that the student achieves that makes the difference.
The most important thing to note is that a Polytechnic education does not exclude success and better higher education in the very near future. -
I wanted to do my As even though I screwed up my O levels, so I chose CI over poly because I already had my mind set on my path.And I did not regret it.That's ancient history as far as I'm concerned.Originally posted by pwnz0r:Her statements can be easily considered 'truth' when looking at the top JCs in Singapore - RJC, VJC, HCJC, and the like. Students from these JCs are among the most intelligent in Singapore and poised to have excellent careers.
However this is not so when talking about other JCs, where students barely scrape to enter. I won't mention their names to prevent discrimination, but it is commonly known that students from these JCs tend to get lousy A level results. Some with such poor grades have to even opt for Polytechnic education.
Using the term 'JC student' and trying to compare isn't a general standard that can be easily applied. Rather, I think its the final A level grades that the student achieves that makes the difference.
The most important thing to note is that a Polytechnic education does not exclude success and better higher education in the very near future.
No matter how well you did in JC or poly, everyone starts afresh in university and if you cannot work within a new system and excel there, this kind of pissing contest only serves to play for facades and superficial pride. -
i think more poly students carry the burden of this economy more than jc students, thus, its survivable not to have jc students but its impt to have poly students around.
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Nice one.....i just think she's the only lousy one......Originally posted by pierre^^:The word is not smart or not smart. I feel that JC are people who are more motivated to concentrate on their studies, therefore achieving gd results. While Poly people tend to play more than their effort in study, only start study when near exam. I say this as a general term. Of course there will be exception in every case like JC CMI or Poly got straight A student. I m a poly student b4 by e way. I think the reason most of us ended up in Poly is that our o-level we never really make an effort from the very beginnning, only start towards the 3 quarter of the yr and some even last min. Most of you guys, dont u wish u had a chance to go JC if it is possible? after all sch fees are cheaper, the route to Uni is wider. again. i say Most. not all. Some of u will have a preference for Poly instead. But i believe most of the ppl here will always harbour a dream of If Oni i can get into Jc. its like in your Primary sch, where u hope to get EM1 instead of EM2 or Em3. In seconday school where u hope to get into express instead of normal.
Aniway i wonder why the author make such a remark. What is she trying to prove aniway? There is no definate answer JC ppl are better than Poly. What are we comparing? Book Smart? Survival Skills? Can she prove that all JC people are better? What she can provide is that she based her assumption on the Generalised O-Level results oni and the university intake for JC students compared to Poly, and the behavior of some. To be honest it doesnt matter who is smarter. JC people or Poly. There will never be a conclusion. So my advice is dont get upset over this. Let these shallow people think what they like.
There will always be people who are better than u. If you think JC people are better than poly, thenthe public sentiments is that poly girls are more pretty than JC people. Fair enough? Of course it isnt, coz it is just an assumption as there will be pretty, and no so pretty one in each department -
Way to go man......Originally posted by R3SsH|n:that is so not true...
i never ever wanted to get into a jc...even if i score 6points..5points...4points..who cares...i wouldn't get into a jc for the life of me...
Polys more chio bus and no uniforms.....
No need to wake up so early n sing marigita...(Do JCs need to sing National Athem?)
Most importantly....easier to pon10....... -
ACJC? Forget it. I am not good enough to enter. Any more other JCs are offering it? I will go edit my post on it.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Computing is an A-level subject. Not all JCs offer it..my time..only heard of ACJC offering that. -
Originally posted by R3SsH|n:i never thought that going to a jc is the natural and prestige path...the so-called path that you should take so that you will have a better life when you grow older...thats bullsh!t to me...
so never you dare tell me that everyone wants to get into a jc...
U prefer jc girls or poly girls?
The thought of getting into a jc being the natural and prestige path to uni. has been a traditional mindset of many families liao... -
dunno leh. I was forever in Arts.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:ACJC? Forget it. I am not good enough to enter. Any more other JCs are offering it? I will go edit my post on it.
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my bro went to jc.... cos what he wanted to do wasn available in poly.... the only way to get it would be to go to uni via jc...
higher chance of gettin a place in the course if he goes in via A levels... -
theatre studies?Originally posted by shinta:my bro went to jc.... cos what he wanted to do wasn available in poly.... the only way to get it would be to go to uni via jc...
higher chance of gettin a place in the course if he goes in via A levels...
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did u ever see poly student write to praise ourselves ...nah .... we r more humble ..
only JC student produce brainless articles ... -
Most JC students whom failed to go to uni. will end up in NIE or MLM.......Originally posted by Ito_^:i think more poly students carry the burden of this economy more than jc students, thus, its survivable not to have jc students but its impt to have poly students around.