Teaching and Understanding of Confucius
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I never studied this subjects during my school days..But I picked it on the way of my growing up..I am not really that good in it. Would like to have great man to discuss their understanding and enlighten us.
Confucius have spoken on many things related to our daily life..he may be many years back..In real life, his teaching in life is still applicable regardless of technology advancement..
To start off these, as tThere are many more topics that can be touched on..I would being with some:
1) Being - "Ren" - Benevolence, charity, humanity, love, kindness
a) Loving - "Ai Ren"
2) Doing/Means - "Yi" - right conduct, morality, duty to one's neighbour
2a) "Yi" may be broken down "zhong" doing one's best, conscientiousness, "loyality
2b) "shu""reciprocity" altruism, consideration for others, "what you don't want yourself, don't do to others"
3) Ends - "Li" - profit, gain, advantage
3a) Gentleman - "Jun Zi"
3b) Properiety - "Li"- good manners, politeness, ceremony, worship,
3c) Filial piety -"Xiao" - to honor one's parent
More on the way..follow if you wanted.. Enlighten us if you can..
Let me only quote "what you don't want yourself, don't do to others" -
Originally posted by king108:
Why do you want to look back at philosophy that is thousand of years old????
I never studied this subjects during my school days..But I picked it on the way of my growing up..I am not really that good in it. Would like to have great man to discuss their understanding and enlighten us.
Confucius have spoken on many things related to our daily life..he may be many years back..In real life, his teaching in life is still applicable regardless of technology advancement..
To start off these, as tThere are many more topics that can be touched on..I would being with some:
[b]1) Being - "Ren" - Benevolence, charity, humanity, love, kindness
a) Loving - "Ai Ren"
2) Doing/Means - "Yi" - right conduct, morality, duty to one's neighbour
2a) "Yi" may be broken down "zhong" doing one's best, conscientiousness, "loyality
2b) "shu""reciprocity" altruism, consideration for others, "what you don't want yourself, don't do to others"
3) Ends - "Li" - profit, gain, advantage
3a) Gentleman - "Jun Zi"
3b) Properiety - "Li"- good manners, politeness, ceremony, worship,
3c) Filial piety -"Xiao" - to honor one's parent
More on the way..follow if you wanted.. Enlighten us if you can..
Let me only quote "what you don't want yourself, don't do to others"
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Wanted to learnt from old teaching
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start with the analects... "zi yue..............."
xiu shen, qi jia, zhi guo, ping tian xia.......... -
Originally posted by FireIce:start with the analects... "zi yue..............."
xiu shen, qi jia, zhi guo, ping tian xia.......... Respected you again... This is called teaching No wondered our children only turned their head when reading books...
No wonder taiwanese Li Ao say we are so smart...I starting to get clearer picture..
I saw a bended house...I think you must be the owner.. Live happily inside..I wish you long long life.. -
"Teaching and Understanding of Confusion"?
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huh?Originally posted by king108: Respected you again... This is called teaching No wondered our children only turned their head when reading books...
No wonder taiwanese Li Ao say we are so smart...I starting to get clearer picture..
I saw a bended house...I think you must be the owner.. Live happily inside..I wish you long long life..
simi lanjiao???
i tot u are relli into kong zi and this would be an intellectual discussion.......
how come is like tt one -
Originally posted by FireIce:huh?
simi lanjiao???
i tot u are relli into kong zi and this would be an intellectual discussion.......
how come is like tt one Li Ao is one that know and practise live confucius..I sense that you don't even know that..till today..Go and studied properly..Don't read dead book..or read book dead...
I respected you..Hence don't disgrace yourself.. -
Please go back to confucius..and really discuss if you know ..no the sze yue....sze yue please..
Proverbs -
huh????
shen jing bing.
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Just quoting" Confucius thought that a ruler who had to resort to force had already failed as a ruler - "Your job is to govern, not to kill"
This was not a principle that Chinese rulers always obeyed, but it was the idealof benevolent rule. It should be noted, however even such humane principles are paternalistic and statist, without a hint of the ideals of individual liberty that are the basis of modern liberal society. Nevertheless, the Confusian ideal avoids the worst of modern paternalism with the principle of government by example and by "Not Doing" (Wu Wei", putting confusianium closer to Taoism than to modern practices of authoritarian control. Confusius thought that the government by laws and punishments could keep people in line, but government by example of virtue (de) and good manners (li) would enable them to control themselves. -
stfu la...
wake up and smell the coffee... -
Thanks for the coffee..I had at least 3 cup a day.. with my group of eldery man in my estates..."I called them "water mirrow sensei"Originally posted by R3SsH|n:stfu la...
wake up and smell the coffee... -
confucius says: don't confuse a confused man or he will be more confused than he was before
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Confucian politics belong in the gutter.
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"The way the wind blows, that's the way the grass bends". Self -control, indeed, is the basis of all the industrious virtues that have made the Chinese people economically successful whenever they have been allowed to prosper, whether in California, Malaya, or China proper. Unfortunately, although Confucius himself says, "Wealth and high station are what men desire", later Confucians turned warnings against the temptation of profit (Li) into a condemnation of profit, which meant that their influence was often turned against the development of Chinese industry and commerce. Thus, Confucians themselves werre perfectly happy to seek "high station" while stiffling the ability of ordinary Chinese to produce "wealth". Over time, this was an evil influence in Chinese history..
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well,
I sense that you are at the elementary level. But again, it is good to see a young student like yourself bending the teaching with your own flavor.Originally posted by king108: "The way the wind blows, that's the way the grass bends". Self -control, indeed, is the basis of all the industrious virtues that have made the Chinese people economically successful whenever they have been allowed to prosper, whether in California, Malaya, or China proper. Unfortunately, although Confucius himself says, "Wealth and high station are what men desire", later Confucians turned warnings against the temptation of profit (Li) into a condemnation of profit, which meant that their influence was often turned against the development of Chinese industry and commerce. Thus, Confucians themselves werre perfectly happy to seek "high station" while stiffling the ability of ordinary Chinese to produce "wealth". Over time, this was an evil influence in Chinese history.. -
I admit I am new to this..hence if you can teach me..I call you master also never mind.
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Hopefully, it is not "carrying door playing axe" infront of you if I carried on further..can guide me thru ..I welcome..since everyone can learnOriginally posted by Sky2D2:well,
I sense that you are at the elementary level. But again, it is good to see a young student like yourself bending the teaching with your own flavor. -
While the essence of morality is the limitation of self-interest, Confucius is clear that this does mean complete denial of self .We had already seen a hint of this with one started with the character "self" and ends with the characters for "others". If what you don't want for yourself, you shouldn't to do others, then you would like others to do for you what you would indeed like for yourself. We see a similar word structure, and stronger implication, "If you desire to establish yourself, also establish others"..Allowed me to quote "This sounds more like Mohism called "mutual profitableness", but it is clearly essential to Confucius. The idea is distilled in a modern Japanese saying, jiri rita, "self profit, profit other" or "self-interest altruism". This can, of course, also be read in Chinese, contains different characters for "self" and "other" than Confucius uses, but these could easily be substitued. Helping oneself and others at the same time is characteristic ofwhat we might even call the "worldiness" of Confucianism and Chinese civilization. -
Now already 2.40am. I read your post cannot understand anything. Could you help summarize the essence of your post? Executive summary.
And please use only small words, dont use big words which take extra processing power. Thank you. -
yea! summarize each of your findings in less than 20 words noob!
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sorry..this is already summarised..Originally posted by Li Ka Shing:Now already 2.40am. I read your post cannot understand anything. Could you help summarize the essence of your post? Executive summary.
And please use only small words, dont use big words which take extra processing power. Thank you. If still wanted shorter..will lose all the meaning.. -
Confucius said: to love to learn is to approach wisdom, to work hard at doing what is good is to approach benevolence, to know shame is to approach fearlessness. He who knows these three things knows how to cultivate himself. He who knows how to cultivate himself knows how to rule men; he who knows how to rule men knows how to govern an empire. -
Thanks for contributing here..I love you.Originally posted by grandeur:
Confucius said: to love to learn is to approach wisdom, to work hard at doing what is good is to approach benevolence, to know shame is to approach fearlessness. He who knows these three things knows how to cultivate himself. He who knows how to cultivate himself knows how to rule men; he who knows how to rule men knows how to govern an empire.