Who is the creator of the universe?
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Originally posted by gr2012:
Like a poster mentioned, you just assume you are right. You assume God exists. You are a close-minded person. And I know why. You are afraid the evidence that we uncover will prove to you that all you've believed in is a great lie. A good Christian of the faith will look at both sides of the argument and use science as proof, instead of relying on the Bible and scriptures alone...for they were written by people long ago who have little knowledge of the world they live in, and so there are flaws in their writing.
It is not a rumour. If you believe that the scripture is distorted by history, then explain to me, why are prophecies coming true? The prophecies of Isaiah, for example.
Jesus Christ was a [b]REAL historical figure, no doubt about that. It is also a historical fact that he died on the cross for our sins. It is also believed by many that he rose from the dead.
Tell me, would 12 people(11 apostles and Jesus) die horrible, violent deaths for a LIE?
Why would there be 15 000 similar copies of the Bible found in ancient times if it was rubbish?
Conditions during the Great Flood were ideal for "fossilizing" millions of animals, plants and even dinosaurs.
Doesn't that explain your fossils?
Also, to clarify what I had said earlier, LOVE and PEACE cannot be present without HATE and WAR.
Love is without hate. Hate is without love. Both cannot survive without the existenceof each other. Man must learn to denounce hate before he can really love, or else he would just be loving because he can't be doing anything else.
Think about it.
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Originally posted by casino_king:
gr2012 believes in the existance of a higher intelligence, God, because he's weak, insecure, and cannot accept the fact that hes alone and without anyone to guide him when he's in trouble. He feels inferior so he believes in a non-existant God just like how some people with no friends create imaginary friends of their own.
Some Muslims are dying horrible deaths AND killing others with their suicide[b]at the present timeDoes that prove that their faith is more real?
Think about it. Why do you believe? Not based on logic and evidence, I hope.
Think about it.
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I pee on your Gods, their fairy tales, their lies, their fake sculptures..
Enough said.
If you're not happy, ask them to visit me. I'll show them who's the boss.
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Nostramus records his predictions in the form of riddles, many of them without meaning and very difficult to interpret. Nostradamus is as normal a person as you and I and I assure you his predictions are just coincidences or the mis-interpretations of his writing.Originally posted by OldMan:Nostradamus predictions are coming true... -
Sometimes, the more attacks one performed on Christians, also indicates that one is insecured too, which is why he is venting his anger on Christians.
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The problem is I'm not worried.Originally posted by laoda99:Sometimes, the more attacks one performed on Christians, also indicates that one is insecured too, which is why he is venting his anger on Christians.
I just feel it's dumb to let someone drop a bomb and have everyone fighting inside the forums whether God existed or not. -
I think the dumb one who start this thread is not a christianOriginally posted by Nelstar:The problem is I'm not worried.
I just feel it's dumb to let someone drop a bomb and have everyone fighting inside the forums whether God existed or not. 
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I know where he is. He's in 'heaven', infront of the biggest TV screen in the Universe, munching on chips and popcorn, drinking soda, watching the people of Earth kill themselves, while he laughs from time to time...Originally posted by chenc:I knew it!!! He will refuse everything. He didn't care! Look at all the natural and terrorist disasters and all those innocent people dying, where is he? -
Yeah...he is laughing at u when he sees u swimming in cum....Originally posted by SixSentinels:I know where he is. He's in 'heaven', infront of the biggest TV screen in the Universe, munching on chips and popcorn, drinking soda, watching the people of Earth kill themselves, while he laughs from time to time... -
So many of them? Then Religin should be classified as a mental disorder and listed as such in the psychiatric profession; why do some doctors believe?Originally posted by SixSentinels:hallucinations, delusions, the work of a delirious mind...you name it. -
Religion is an epidemic of mental illnessOriginally posted by casino_king:So many of them? Then Religin should be classified as a mental disorder and listed as such in the psychiatric profession; why do some doctors believe? -
This thread is good...what a waste it is in Chit Chat and not EH....
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Science tells you that their conclusion is but the best of the alternatives given the observations and experiments done.... so far. If a genius comes along and provides a better alternative explanation and do the required experiments and "do the math; science is more than willing to aboandon its long held views.Originally posted by SixSentinels:Like a poster mentioned, you just assume you are right. You assume God exists. You are a close-minded person. And I know why. You are afraid the evidence that we uncover will prove to you that all you've believed in is a great lie. A good Christian of the faith will look at both sides of the argument and use science as proof, instead of relying on the Bible and scriptures alone...for they were written by people long ago who have little knowledge of the world they live in, and so there are flaws in their writing.
Some people, the believers reject a worldview like that. They want certainty and without certainty, the rely on certainty by faith, is there anything wrong with that? -
Opposition:
casino_king
SixSentinels
Nelstar
OldMan
tIfosI
alien2
newmanmback
hxm
Neutrals:
laoda99
DeepSpace
chenc
moongster
MooKu
maggot
Religious Fanatics:
gr2012
As you can see, the religious fanatics have lost this debate because there is just insufficient evidence to proof that what they said is accurate. -
*drives lorry around*
Vote for me! Vote for XYP! -
let's forget about gr2012 for a minute, I myself had blasted him for his stupidity and he is in my opinion a disgrace of a christian. People who claim to be deciples of Christ should display more wisdom.Originally posted by SixSentinels:gr2012 believes in the existance of a higher intelligence, God, because he's weak, insecure, and cannot accept the fact that hes alone and without anyone to guide him when he's in trouble. He feels inferior so he believes in a non-existant God just like how some people with no friends create imaginary friends of their own.
What if those who fear death death, feel inferior believe and they indeed feel better and do not fear death any longer... hey some are willing to kill themselves in the defence of their faith.
Who are we to tell them to stop. So what exactly are you against? -
You yourself claim that people should be objective and base their beliefs in reality and "science." Well science, the doctors, do not classify it as such, so how?Originally posted by SixSentinels:Religion is an epidemic of mental illness -
What if there really is a God and to the God you are not even as small as one insert to a man. So you can pee all you want, God looks at you and smile?Originally posted by Nelstar:I pee on your Gods, their fairy tales, their lies, their fake sculptures..
Enough said.
If you're not happy, ask them to visit me. I'll show them who's the boss. -
Christianity is a plague that has spread across this planet, with over 1.2 billion followers in the world. The more christians there are, the more nonsense they are gonna bomb with us and we cannot allow that to happen. The world, I tell you, has already been piled up with lies. Will you allow the christians to create an impenetrable barrier of deception, so that one day humankind cannot see logic or reason, cannot see the truth which lies past this barrier of lies?Originally posted by casino_king:let's forget about gr2012 for a minute, I myself had blasted him for his stupidity and he is in my opinion a disgrace of a christian. People who claim to be deciples of Christ should display more wisdom.
What if those who fear death death, feel inferior believe and they indeed feel better and do not fear death any longer... hey some are willing to kill themselves in the defence of their faith.
Who are we to tell them to stop. So what exactly are you against? -
Totally agreeOriginally posted by SixSentinels:Religion is an epidemic of mental illness 
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Blah, "WHAT IF"Originally posted by casino_king:What if there really is a God and to the God you are not even as small as one insert to a man. So you can pee all you want, God looks at you and smile?
If he exists, he deserved the pee! -
If he exists, I would've pwned him before I was even bornOriginally posted by Nelstar:Blah, "WHAT IF"
If he exists, he deserved the pee! -
How about this? If people can find some way to "explain" what happened based on reading this Nost's guy book; they then trumpet that to the world. If they cannot, they keep quiet. For example, Boxing Day tsunami; something? Tell the world, nothing keep quiet.Originally posted by SixSentinels:Nostramus records his predictions in the form of riddles, many of them without meaning and very difficult to interpret. Nostradamus is as normal a person as you and I and I assure you his predictions are just coincidences or the mis-interpretations of his writing.
Future predictions.... according to Nost, there will be a disaster in the month of Febuary 2007 and since disasters always happens anyway, so if some really happens... blow the trumpet as loud as possible. Nothing happens then keep very quiet. If anybody asks; well maybe we interpreted wrongly. See?
This is what the "gurus" and the "financial markets experts" do everyday on TV and Financial newspapers. Suckers all over the world take their word for it and if it doesn't work; find another "Guru." Until they wake up and know that it is chance and luck and simply a gamble... Winning Losing Desperation Hopelessness awaits them. -
Originally posted by SixSentinels:
[b]Opposition:
casino_king
SixSentinels
Nelstar
OldMan
tIfosI
alien2
newmanmback
hxm
Neutrals:
laoda99
DeepSpace
chenc
moongster
MooKu
maggot
Religious Fanatics:
gr2012
As you can see, the religious fanatics have lost this debate because there is just insufficient evidence to proof that what they said is accurate.[/b] Are you sure I am in the opposition just because it is impossible to put me with the believers? -
Originally posted by SixSentinels:
We must not and never let that happen. What about those who quietly goes about their Christian 'duty" and doesn't bother anyone? What about those who hears God speaking to them? Who "sees" God working in their lives? What do we do with these?
Christianity is a [b]plague that has spread across this planet, with over 1.2 billion followers in the world. The more christians there are, the more nonsense they are gonna bomb with us and we cannot allow that to happen. The world, I tell you, has already been piled up with lies. Will you allow the christians to create an impenetrable barrier of deception, so that one day humankind cannot see logic or reason, cannot see the truth which lies past this barrier of lies?[/b]