Who is the creator of the universe?
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What if they do not have any proof but they claim to "experience" God in their lives?Originally posted by SixSentinels:and have u proof of the existance of god? have u seen him? if you've only heard of god then it is only rumor that he exists and are you stupid enough to believe every rumor u hear? so what if it is written down in the bible? that is the word of man, not of god. and time and history has distorted all fact now it is almost indistinguishable from fiction... -
It is not a rumour. If you believe that the scripture is distorted by history, then explain to me, why are prophecies coming true? The prophecies of Isaiah, for example.Originally posted by SixSentinels:and have u proof of the existance of god? have u seen him? if you've only heard of god then it is only rumor that he exists and are you stupid enough to believe every rumor u hear? so what if it is written down in the bible? that is the word of man, not of god. and time and history has distorted all fact now it is almost indistinguishable from fiction...
Jesus Christ was a REAL historical figure, no doubt about that. It is also a historical fact that he died on the cross for our sins. It is also believed by many that he rose from the dead.
Tell me, would 12 people(11 apostles and Jesus) die horrible, violent deaths for a LIE?
Why would there be 15 000 similar copies of the Bible found in ancient times if it was rubbish?
Conditions during the Great Flood were ideal for "fossilizing" millions of animals, plants and even dinosaurs.
Doesn't that explain your fossils?
Also, to clarify what I had said earlier, LOVE and PEACE cannot be present without HATE and WAR.
Love is without hate. Hate is without love. Both cannot survive without the existenceof each other. Man must learn to denounce hate before he can really love, or else he would just be loving because he can't be doing anything else.
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Originally posted by gr2012:
erm.. it is possible to look at Isaiah then write the new testament to conform with the prophecies.
It is not a rumour. If you believe that the scripture is distorted by history, then explain to me, why are prophecies coming true? The prophecies of Isaiah, for example.
Jesus Christ was a [b]REAL historical figure, no doubt about that. It is also a historical fact that he died on the cross for our sins. It is also believed by many that he rose from the dead. [/b]Originally posted by gr2012:
Some Muslims are dying horrible deaths AND killing others with their suicide[b]at the present timeDoes that prove that their faith is more real?
Tell me, would 12 people(11 apostles and Jesus) die horrible, violent deaths for a LIE?[b]
Think about it. Why do you believe? Not based on logic and evidence, I hope.
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Originally posted by gr2012:
how do you know that he was real? and that he died on the cross? have you seen it yourself? all these are just hearsay. at the time of jesus christ's birth, china was already a highly advanced country. and jesus had to be born in the middle east to spread the message of salvation? god is almighty, he could have sent his only son to china. no, in fact he is almighty, he does not even need a messenger. jesus christ died a brutal death because he was the leader of a cult, christianity. the roman leaders were unhappy with his growing influence. died for my sins?
It is not a rumour. If you believe that the scripture is distorted by history, then explain to me, why are prophecies coming true? The prophecies of Isaiah, for example.
Jesus Christ was a [b]REAL historical figure, no doubt about that. It is also a historical fact that he died on the cross for our sins. It is also believed by many that he rose from the dead.
Tell me, would 12 people(11 apostles and Jesus) die horrible, violent deaths for a LIE?
Why would there be 15 000 similar copies of the Bible found in ancient times if it was rubbish?
Conditions during the Great Flood were ideal for "fossilizing" millions of animals, plants and even dinosaurs.
Doesn't that explain your fossils?
Also, to clarify what I had said earlier, LOVE and PEACE cannot be present without HATE and WAR.
Love is without hate. Hate is without love. Both cannot survive without the existenceof each other. Man must learn to denounce hate before he can really love, or else he would just be loving because he can't be doing anything else.
Think about it.
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god is almighty, he can make love exist without hate. god loves all of us right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell
The Christian idea of Hell is different from the Sheol of Judaism. The nature of Hell is described in the New Testament on several occasions. For example, in Matthew 3:10-12, Matthew 5:22, Matthew 5:29-30, Matthew 8:12, Matthew 22:13, Matthew 25:30, Matthew 25:41-46, Luke 3:9, Luke 12:5, Luke 13:28, Luke 16:19-28, and the Revelations 12:9, Revelations 14:9-11, Revelations 19:20, Revelations 20:10, Revelations 20:14-15, Revelations 21:8; in the Book of Revelation Hell is also mentioned as the "abyss" and "the Earth".
The population of Hell comprises the souls of those who died without accepting Christ as their saviour, God's grace, in sin and without repentance, although beliefs on these categories differs among Christian denominations. -
creator of the universe???? as in this thread.??? then it must be you lor.....
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Many Christians believe and they say the belief changed their lives. How do you account for that?Originally posted by hxm:how do you know that he was real? and that he died on the cross? have you seen it yourself? all these are just hearsay. at the time of jesus christ's birth, china was already a highly advanced country. and jesus had to be born in the middle east to spread the message of salvation? god is almighty, he could have sent his only son to china. no, in fact he is almighty, he does not even need a messenger. jesus christ died a brutal death because he was the leader of a cult, christianity. the roman leaders were unhappy with his growing influence. died for my sins?
god is almighty, he can make love exist without hate. god loves all of us right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell
The Christian idea of Hell is different from the Sheol of Judaism. The nature of Hell is described in the New Testament on several occasions. For example, in Matthew 3:10-12, Matthew 5:22, Matthew 5:29-30, Matthew 8:12, Matthew 22:13, Matthew 25:30, Matthew 25:41-46, Luke 3:9, Luke 12:5, Luke 13:28, Luke 16:19-28, and the Revelations 12:9, Revelations 14:9-11, Revelations 19:20, Revelations 20:10, Revelations 20:14-15, Revelations 21:8; in the Book of Revelation Hell is also mentioned as the "abyss" and "the Earth".
The population of Hell comprises the souls of those who died without accepting Christ as their saviour, God's grace, in sin and without repentance, although beliefs on these categories differs among Christian denominations. -
Originally posted by gr2012:
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/dinosaurs/dinofossils/Fossilhow.html
It is not a rumour. If you believe that the scripture is distorted by history, then explain to me, why are prophecies coming true? The prophecies of Isaiah, for example.
Jesus Christ was a [b]REAL historical figure, no doubt about that. It is also a historical fact that he died on the cross for our sins. It is also believed by many that he rose from the dead.
Tell me, would 12 people(11 apostles and Jesus) die horrible, violent deaths for a LIE?
Why would there be 15 000 similar copies of the Bible found in ancient times if it was rubbish?
Conditions during the Great Flood were ideal for "fossilizing" millions of animals, plants and even dinosaurs.
Doesn't that explain your fossils?
Also, to clarify what I had said earlier, LOVE and PEACE cannot be present without HATE and WAR.
Love is without hate. Hate is without love. Both cannot survive without the existenceof each other. Man must learn to denounce hate before he can really love, or else he would just be loving because he can't be doing anything else.
Think about it.
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"Some animals were quickly buried after their death (by sinking in mud, being buried in a sand storm, etc.). Over time, more and more sediment covered the remains. In the right circumstances (no scavengers, quick burial, not much weathering), parts of the animal turned into fossils over time."
a quick burial. how many days of rain again? 40 days and 4o nights? no fossils would be formed under such conditions. please rebut all our arguments, especially sixsentinel's. -
anymore stocks, a bit low on the popcorns (sweat ones) here also got ice coffee?....Originally posted by laurence82:i am selling popcorns and coke
1.50 for the popcorns and 1 buck for the coke
who wants?
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*act typical chinese businessman*Originally posted by vince69:anymore stocks, a bit low on the popcorns (sweat ones) here also got ice coffee?....
eh, xiao lian, if you dont to buy, dont be so picky want simi ice kopi sweet popcorns, me no sell ang moh snacks or beeverlege...dont act banana hor
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The phoenix rises from the ashes. With destruction, comes creation. So, it is the destruction of the previous universe that created the current universe.
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the prophecies of nostradamus also coming true, and many many others too, so it means nothingOriginally posted by gr2012:It is not a rumour. If you believe that the scripture is distorted by history, then explain to me, why are prophecies coming true? The prophecies of Isaiah, for example.
The Buddha was a real historical figure, Prophet Mohammad too, so you're saying that Buddhism and Islam must be true faith too
Jesus Christ was a REAL historical figure, no doubt about that. It is also a historical fact that he died on the cross for our sins. It is also believed by many that he rose from the dead.
need i remind you of japan's aum sect and the texas massacre?
Tell me, would 12 people(11 apostles and Jesus) die horrible, violent deaths for a LIE?
http://www.rickross.com/groups/asahara.html
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0312952260/002-2019711-3340065?v=glance&n=283155
martyrdom is common among extremists and mostly CULTS, and christianity was a cult during jesus time
you could similarly find 15,000 copies of buddhist, hindu scriptures and the quran during ancient time
Why would there be 15 000 similar copies of the Bible found in ancient times if it was rubbish?
naive, there's no scientific basis. if so, please elaborate
Conditions during the Great Flood were ideal for "fossilizing" millions of animals, plants and even dinosaurs.
Doesn't that explain your fossils? -
CUT!...Originally posted by laurence82:*act typical chinese businessman*
eh, xiao lian, if you dont to buy, dont be so picky want simi ice kopi sweet popcorns, me no sell ang moh snacks or beeverlege...dont act banana hor
*pick teeth*
how many time must tell you, the phrase is xiao eh not xiao lian....
also towkay don't pick teeth, like gangster already... go get a small pair of reading glass and start wipping it with your hanki.
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I knew it!!!Originally posted by casino_king:What if God can but refuses to?
He will refuse everything. He didn't care! Look at all the natural and terrorist disasters and all those innocent people dying, where is he? -
BTW, Bill himself admitted he was not a believer. And just look at how many zeros his bank account has
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The answer to life, the universe and everything is forty-two.
How do you know there is a universe? Maybe we are merely consciousness-es floating in nothing.
But anyway, this question was [urlhttp://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=61376]asked before [/url]by me when I was still young, but I don't think we delved so much into religious issues.
There is a point for asking who or what created us, because that would explain the purpose of our existence. But I don't think it's really worth pondering and analyzing and debating over. Since we're already here, we might as well make the most out of every second in the way we like it. Then maybe, after we breathe our last we may finally find the answer? -
orhOriginally posted by vince69:CUT!...
how many time must tell you, the phrase is xiao eh not xiao lian....
also towkay don't pick teeth, like gangster already... go get a small pair of reading glass and start wipping it with your hanki.
annnd...TAKE TWO! -
SORRY FOR THE INCONVENIENCE!Originally posted by MooKu:The answer to life, the universe and everything is forty-two.
How do you know there is a universe? Maybe we are merely consciousness-es floating in nothing.
But anyway, this question was [urlhttp://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=61376]asked before [/url]by me when I was still young, but I don't think we delved so much into religious issues.
There is a point for asking who or what created us, because that would explain the purpose of our existence. But I don't think it's really worth pondering and analyzing and debating over. Since we're already here, we might as well make the most out of every second in the way we like it. Then maybe, after we breathe our last we may finally find the answer?
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what inconvenience?Originally posted by laurence82:SORRY FOR THE INCONVENIENCE!
kekekeke
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Human solved tons of problems since the first civilisation ruled the surface of Earth. However, one that still deeply troubled mankind is the their very own existence. Difference in belief can divide the world apart.
In heated discussions, many believers of God had problem in holding onto their believes, while many anti-god fellowers started to believe in the theory of the Creator. However, after all those arguements and insults fired across the table, how does it help?
We conduct discussions not to find the ultimate answer, but to understand more on an subject. At the very end of the day, ask yourself. Does it really matter who or what our creator is, or whether or not there is a creator? Will finding out the true answer help us being a better person? Or would it be better to think about how you yourself can be your own creator, and therefore take responsibility in your own life and spent time on things of a greater worth than wars in forum. -
You didnt read the whole book didnt you?Originally posted by MooKu:what inconvenience? -
It is so sad isn't it? Some poeple can type the words but their minds are mush. They probably heard the nonsense from some other believers of the same kind and then vomit it out for the rest of us to appreciate after the indigestion. But you don't have to be so hard on the mentally challenged do you?Originally posted by hxm:http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/dinosaurs/dinofossils/Fossilhow.html
"Some animals were quickly buried after their death (by sinking in mud, being buried in a sand storm, etc.). Over time, more and more sediment covered the remains. In the right circumstances (no scavengers, quick burial, not much weathering), parts of the animal turned into fossils over time."
a quick burial. how many days of rain again? 40 days and 4o nights? no fossils would be formed under such conditions. please rebut all our arguments, especially sixsentinel's. -
Unfortunately we have to continue doing this because some of these believers need to be saved from their stupidity. Otherwise it makes life difficult for the rest of us.Originally posted by MooKu:The answer to life, the universe and everything is forty-two.
How do you know there is a universe? Maybe we are merely consciousness-es floating in nothing.
But anyway, this question was [urlhttp://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=61376]asked before [/url]by me when I was still young, but I don't think we delved so much into religious issues.
There is a point for asking who or what created us, because that would explain the purpose of our existence. But I don't think it's really worth pondering and analyzing and debating over. Since we're already here, we might as well make the most out of every second in the way we like it. Then maybe, after we breathe our last we may finally find the answer?
They can never find such wisdom in their own circle. In their own circle, they have a saying: "Let's not stumble each other." Translated it means: "we must continue to feed each other fantasies and stupidities, we are mentally weak." -
FIGHT FIGHT!
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hallucinations, delusions, the work of a delirious mind...you name it.Originally posted by casino_king:What if they do not have any proof but they claim to "experience" God in their lives?