Your God is not who you think he is.
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i am not saying have a religion is a bad thing,
but its really like you are following a blind cow. (sorry if it offended anyone)
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what does christianity assure you? Are you referring that as a Christian, you can do all the bad things and then just walk into the church to ask god forgiveness and you will be blessed and forgiven, and all you enemies will turn to friends?Originally posted by laoda99:Actually, for me Christianity assures me most.
Buddhist/Islam/Taoist won't give u the assurance u are saved. U will have to do good and be good. And chances are..... it still depends on karma/almighty whether u are saved/enlightened or not..... -
if u have proof, it wont call faith alreadyOriginally posted by axle-ken:i am not saying have a religion is a bad thing,
but its really like you are following a blind cow. (sorry if it offended anyone)
without the REAL PROOF
chances are, even if there are proof, one would still reject becoz mind made up already....and too proud to accept it.....
for example, if we show skeptics like SIS miracles, he would say:"All faiths have that"
I think pple like SIS waiting for god's voice to boom down from the sky. Then he will say it is true. But wait....later u all say:"How do I know u are God and not aliens?" -
You are contradicting yourself... 1st you said , man cannot come to God through intelligence... in fact it would drive that person further away. Then now you say, it depends on how you use that intelligence. So which is which? Intelligence or no intelligence. If you depends on how you use your intelligence, then you cannot say intelligence "drives" people away? So please get it straight in your own head first.Originally posted by xXStormFallXx:Like I have stressed in my previous posts, I am not talking about abandoning intelligence totally. You can have intelligence or not (everybody has some level of intelligence) but what really matters is how you use that intelligence. Which is where morality and choice comes into the question. and religion provides you with a set of moral codes. you need to have faith in love, a right faith in God to know you are doing things the right way in life, in a way that benefits yourself and humanity.
Religion provides you with a set of moral codes? Which set is good? The Buddhists? The Christians? The Jews? The Muslims?
What in the world is the right faith in God? Is there a wrong faith and a right faith? Or is there only faith and no faith? Or Faith in God and Faith in idols? Which is which? Try again. -
no... not really. if theres is a proof that will set people thinking...Originally posted by laoda99:if u have proof, it wont call faith already
chances are, even if there are proof, one would still reject becoz mind made up already....and too proud to accept it.....
who will wants to believe in a un true thing? of course all want to follow and know the truth.
proud that might be base on personal ego. but for me i guess if there is a proof. i'll go and understand it first -
How do you know people are following a blind cow? You some sort of god?Originally posted by axle-ken:i am not saying have a religion is a bad thing,
but its really like you are following a blind cow. (sorry if it offended anyone)
without the REAL PROOF -
if we show skeptics like SIS miracles has taken place, he would say:"All faiths have that. does tat show all faiths are right?"Originally posted by axle-ken:no... not really. if theres is a proof that will set people thinking...
who will wants to believe in a un true thing? of course all want to follow and know the truth.
proud that might be base on personal ego. but for me i guess if there is a proof. i'll go and understand it first
I think pple like SIS waiting for god's voice to boom down from the sky. Then he will say it is true.
But wait....later SIS will say:"How do I know u are God and not aliens?"
It will just be continual denial. -
How do you know what it takes to know God? Define real proof.Originally posted by axle-ken:i am not saying have a religion is a bad thing,
but its really like you are following a blind cow. (sorry if it offended anyone)
without the REAL PROOF -
no he is not god, but i know u are messiah, i know i know....pastor kingOriginally posted by casino_king:How do you know people are following a blind cow? You some sort of god?
think u r mad really...... -
How did you know that? Did you believe, had a spiritual experience and decide that it was bad for you? How did you know then? How did you know it was a good thing for me? How did you know how good or bad a thing it was for me?Originally posted by axle-ken:well that thats good for you. but form my point of view.
Is believing too much is it a good thing.
for me i think people who believe in something trust their instinct that they think they are real.
but. this proof that they are weak and need a spiritual backing to back them up. -
humans are imperfect, thats why for everything we create we find errors and mistakes in our creation. but god (whom the christians say is almighty, all-knowing) created evil and then condemned those afflicted by it to hell. what is the purpose of this? if god is what they say he is, then evil cannot be a flaw in his creation, can it?Originally posted by Uncle_MooMoo:Because God hates evil. Good and bad does not go well together, even a 3year old can understand and believe that.
Therefore mistakes and sins have consequences. But you don't have to bear it yourself, God offered a way out, a redemption by blood, the heaviest price possible and by His transforming grace you can slowly, but surely become a better person. Christ offered you a way to heaven, why do you bother about hell if you're not going there? -
may i know where u learn tat god created evil?Originally posted by SixSentinels:humans are imperfect, thats why for everything we create we find errors and mistakes in our creation. but god (whom the christians say is almighty, all-knowing) created evil and then condemned those afflicted by it to hell. what is the purpose of this? if god is what they say he is, then evil cannot be a flaw in his creation, can it? -
the thin abt denial quite true.Originally posted by laoda99:no he is not god, but i know u are messiah, i know i know....pastor king
think u r mad really......
but really personal.
and i agree with you. he is a siao gi na.... -
I wonder, are you against Christian teachings or are you against God?Originally posted by SixSentinels:humans are imperfect, thats why for everything we create we find errors and mistakes in our creation. but god (whom the christians say is almighty, all-knowing) created evil and then condemned those afflicted by it to hell. what is the purpose of this? if god is what they say he is, then evil cannot be a flaw in his creation, can it? -
i know what u gonna say next:Originally posted by casino_king:I wonder, are you against Christian teachings or are you against God?
Sixsentinels, u must be born again to know God! -
In fact are you aginst Jesus` teaching or are you against Christian teaching?
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I support lbandit's stand. Think about it, why would a God who doesn't give a damn about the human race (letting us kill ourselves, letting disasters take away countless lives, letting humans kill animals for fun) be worthy of worship at all? Or maybe you christians are just boot-lickers trying to earn your ticket to heaven by pleasing your God regardless of whether you like it or not?
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this is sooo farking true!!!Originally posted by SixSentinels:I support lbandit's stand. Think about it, why would a God who doesn't give a damn about the human race (letting us kill ourselves, letting disasters take away countless lives, letting humans kill animals for fun) be worthy of worship at all? Or maybe you christians are just boot-lickers trying to earn your ticket to heaven by pleasing your God regardless of whether you like it or not? -
hmm......if already u dun believe in god, dun blame god for letting us kill ourselves....Originally posted by SixSentinels:I support lbandit's stand. Think about it, why would a God who doesn't give a damn about the human race (letting us kill ourselves, letting disasters take away countless lives, letting humans kill animals for fun) be worthy of worship at all? Or maybe you christians are just boot-lickers trying to earn your ticket to heaven by pleasing your God regardless of whether you like it or not?
blame the stupid human race who think so highly/intellectual abt themselves who decide the only thing they can do is to kill themselves...and yes....we dun need god...we have science
we have science/technology tat can destroy the earth many times over.....tat's the quickest way we can kill ourselves...
so now u agree humans are doing stupid things....and u are blaming god for tat? if u are stupid, can i blame ur parents?
sometimes i think humans behaved in a spoilt way.....mess up our own earth, and then try to push blame to something/someone else..... -
Well because God leaves it up to man. What do you want? You want to be a slave to God? You want to be like the animals? Unable to make your own decisions and go soley by your God imposed instint? You do not want to be human?Originally posted by SixSentinels:I support lbandit's stand. Think about it, why would a God who doesn't give a damn about the human race (letting us kill ourselves, letting disasters take away countless lives, letting humans kill animals for fun) be worthy of worship at all? Or maybe you christians are just boot-lickers trying to earn your ticket to heaven by pleasing your God regardless of whether you like it or not? -
thats right. no one (because Man is imperfect) can ever be pure. Every single human in the world has traces of evil in him. And since the evil goes to hell, then god should go to hell himself because god created evil through his mistakes (which also proves that he is imperfect, so you christians are wrong again) and should be condemned!Originally posted by casino_king:So why not just extinguish the evil person; why create a hell where that person suffers eternally. Suffer endlessly? That is GOOD? Even a 3 year old will tell that you are talking nonsense. Try again. -
shut the f**k up
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Who made you able to know what good and evil are? Are you God? Can you see the consequences of people's actions from eternity to eternity? How do you know what hell is? Did you go to hell and come back? How did you know that what the writers claim about hell is not just based on their own expectations?Originally posted by SixSentinels:thats right. no one (because Man is imperfect) can ever be pure. Every single human in the world has traces of evil in him. And since the evil goes to hell, then god should go to hell himself because god created evil through his mistakes (which also proves that he is imperfect, so you christians are wrong again) and should be condemned! -
insecure and low self-esteem people believe in god just as how a young, helpless child longs for his mother's touch...its all in the mind...your god doesnt know you and doesnt care about you. its just the way your mind responses to your desires that makes you believe he exists...Originally posted by axle-ken:well that thats good for you. but form my point of view.
Is believing too much is it a good thing.
for me i think people who believe in something trust their instinct that they think they are real.
but. this proof that they are weak and need a spiritual backing to back them up. -
yep like how the blind sheep follow the 'wise' shephard because they have no minds of their ownOriginally posted by axle-ken:i am not saying have a religion is a bad thing,
but its really like you are following a blind cow. (sorry if it offended anyone)
without the REAL PROOF