Victimised By Job Agency. Help!, Needs Help and Advice! Sign
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My suggestions:
1) Start work on time and end on time regardless of the amt of work.
This is NOT considered as misbehavior.
2) Pace yrself with the work load allocated. Remember you are not superwoman.
3) Do not accept jobs from Jobstreet or JobDB or any online agency in future. Usually the jobs they offer are those that have high turnover rates / nobody wants. Sent CV to companies directly to get job offers instead.
4) Alternative, you can leave the job and hope that the job agency don't come after you. -
i think agencies know each other too. some sort of database.
i will try my best to talk to agency, but i know they might just heck care. so the last last resort is to leave and evade agency if they come after me. i mean, who in the right mind will leave the co and risk paying 2k if things can be solved? -
I know I'm not a very nice person but since you're the only person in the office until next week, you might as well dig up all the dirt on your company and boss so that you have a little leverage when negotiating with your boss.Originally posted by zuccamori:i think agencies know each other too. some sort of database.
i will try my best to talk to agency, but i know they might just heck care. so the last last resort is to leave and evade agency if they come after me. i mean, who in the right mind will leave the co and risk paying 2k if things can be solved?
I'm an IT guy so i tend to like to "explore" the system... -
lol... the boss room is locked lol.. they have a server, but aint sure got hidden cams or not.. anyway, even got first is nothing to do with my reason for wanting to leave. sigh.
too disorganised. if he really has a camera, he can see me screaming to myself and crying on mon morning. i am going berserk -_- -
Let's have lunch on monday bah, if you work near Bishan.Originally posted by zuccamori:lol... the boss room is locked lol.. they have a server, but aint sure got hidden cams or not.. anyway, even got first is nothing to do with my reason for wanting to leave. sigh.
too disorganised. if he really has a camera, he can see me screaming to myself and crying on mon morning. i am going berserk -_- -
hi dailygames,
i work in raffles place -_-... too bad cant meet up..
thanks for offering though..
lucky today and tomorrow MC.. can keng a bit. -
Frankly the job agency cannot do much to get you to pay beside threatening you. Why, because you can counter sue them as the document you sign is no longer valid as the job scope is not what is stated.Originally posted by zuccamori:thanks all for the advice.. yeah, i suppose i have to either (1) 'tong' another 2 months
cos only started few days or (2) just heck the contracts and leave. if agency wan come after me, then see how.. cos i have another offer le..
will see how, but i really hate going to office now. cos no one there, and i feel so loner.
Thus they did not deliver the services to you as stated also, thus you have all rights not to pay them. -
hi storywolf,
thanks for your reply. yeah, it's what my aunt told me as well.
yea, i will DEFINATELY not pay the 2k, it's in my plans to call Shin Min or Wanbao if things dun work out. Even my aunt, who is a devoted Christian, feels sorry for me and says that i should not care abt the agency and this company is not right for me. i might as well look for other jobs once i leave rather than stay there 2 months and take the s*** and cannot go for potential interviews.
i am on 2 day mc, tomolo go back. remember i say i supposed to divert the office phone to my mobile each day? well, i did not do that on tue, cos i very unhappy, actually i did, but later i deactivated again. heng dun have if not how to rest these 2 days.
then yesterday morning, i sms him say that i mc cannot go in, i went to take mc and was given 2 days. at night, i sms him that i still not feeling good, will take the 2nd day as well. he never replied. just now, i woke up, saw missed calls from him in hk and a msg in mailbox, haven go listen. but he sure wanna know why i din divert my phone. anyway i will tell him that maybe i din activate properly lo.
i am so sick of working for him now.
just listened to the msg, he wants me to call him. sickening, he is in HK and i dun think i can ever claim back my phone charges and sms.
told my friend and she said dun call him, but i want to make sure i get my claims and pay first, so wun wanna let him guess that i may quit. cos he may have some contingency plans worked out, esp he knows of my 2 months bond with agency.
i am also quite worried that the agency will argue that it is between me and employer and they have delivered what they should have, cos part of the probs are not just job scope related but pertaining to having 'no system'. Like the shipping matters i was told that i am supposed to liaise these few months, but i am unhappy cos it forms the bulk of my work and though i need not prepare the documents (should be my boss), he held up things and i am unhappy cos it's very inefficient
my friend says i really worry too much and see too muxh into details. yeah, i think it's just me, my bad habit. cos i feel really scared at times esp i am alone there. hope all will go well. -
eh. ok. u can not pay the 2k when quit.
but be prepare to recevie their letter though stating legal action aganist you if you dont pay up outstanding amount blah blah ect ect. i think it will come later.
then post again and see if someone here knows how to deal with it. just my guess. -
Debt agencies can make sure you cannot get another job. It's easy to track you down to your new job in Singapore..one of their usual tactic is to go to your new office and make a scene asking you to pay up. They will make sure your new colleagues and employer know that you owe them money...
If they initiate legal action against you, you will not be able to work in many 'sensitive' jobs like banks anyway, 'cos they will require you to declare you do not have such actions pending against you...
In addition, they can submit your data to credit agencies, so you will not be able to apply for credit cards etc..
Think carefully... -
so does it mean we should be bullied around?
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i dont think the agency will go to such an extent. carries a bad name for itself. unless its some small privately owned one. anyway suing is a very expensive manunevur. i think the most they will do is to pester you with suit threatning letters from time to time.
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meanwhile gather and photocopy or snap evidence you had been mistreated. punch card, boss smses (do not delete) , voice recordings or anything. to cover your own backside should anything goes wrong.
but bear in mind alot of company documents are confidential and i think theres one in your concract regarding company secrets blah blah. do not keep them. boss can fix you with this one if he really wants to. -
yeah, tomolo i will be printing out all my mails, it will show when i started working there and the irrelevant duties that come to me and all the necessary photocopying of receipts and stuff.
I decided that i will play by ear with the following 2 options:
Option A
(1) Claim $ for stationary and despatch on Mon.
(2) Get my pay, give 1 day notice next day and Go
(3) I will call Agency to tell them i quit. Or perhaps my boss would have already called them when he knows i am gonna resign. Will tell my side of the story to agency. Ignore them if they wanna pursue.
Option B
(1) Go to work from 9-6, strictly no overtime unless required
(2) Be a slacker. Marketing stuff as priority, others will take my time (seems that it's always URGENT, but i wun care)
Also, i will really eat in the office if i want to, no nonsense about what stong fragrance of food. if he starts again, i will ask him is it CANNOT eat OR can only eat sandwich (no fragrance). -
i rather u do an option A asap
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if ur pay is >1.8k, u're considered an executive. OT pay is not compulsory, but rather ur renumeration is based on the employment terms agreed upon employer and employee.
i think u can go submit ur resignation and give 1 months' notice. maybe something good might come out of it.
i'm also in the some sort of same position... but bearable. -
i wanna do Option A, but dunno when is my pay day.
This month will be the first time the Accounts Exec not around, and i dunno they have any cut off day kind of s*** or not.
Definately i wanna leave this pit asap, i am sick of the agency policy cos it does not make sense to whoever i spoke to, esp with my case. -
hi 'egg-san' (tamago),
yea, that's why i asked him last sat if got compensation or not but he gives me yes/no kind of 'answer'.. i mean if yes say yes, dun gimme nonsense. this is also part of the reason why i dun wanna talk to him abt my situation. he should have the common sense to know that it's a horrible thing to leave me in the office like that, what's more his information abt doing tasks all salah.
I have no more heart to stay there le, cos of the 'no system' thingy.. sigh, even he pays me 3k i also dun dare to stay.
ya, good to hear that ur situation is bearable... i suppose it's just not my luck and after all, i have been so comfy for the past 4 years at my previous co, have been really lucky to learn marketing (i graduated with IT Diploma) and stuff..
at the very least, i do not regret anything abt leaving my prev job (wanted more exp), or even joining this current one. just my luck that things do not work out. -
Hi , recently through I went through some shit training from this big company in Singapore. Was actually outsourced from the company that I signed with. I didnt know anything about it until on the first day of work. I was supposed to be a customer service ( no mention of phone calls ) . That was not a problem. I was supposed to undergo on job training , no problem.
After signing the contract , I left for my outsource company. Its pretty far from my home to office. No mention on any transport allowance, never mind. First day of work , they tried to force all the information on me and expected me to know my stuff by the end of the day. The training sucks because 3 different people taught me with different methods confusing me with what should I do when I encounter this problem. This is the problem , when I am with person B , I used person A's solution , person B makes lots of noise and insist that I follow his method ...so on and so fore. Such a big company and they cant train newbies properly, it's a shame really. Those that had experience before had a hard time struggling in.I wouldnt recommand this company to anyone really . I kept highlighting to them that I need time to digust all the information to my head especially the spare parts which I am not so sure of. 2 weeks later , decided I had enough. 1. Low pay 2 . No transport allowance and distance far from home 3. Screwed up management ( Increase our working hours from 44 to 49 hrs, no increment of pay ), lousy job training .
I discussed with my original company , she told me she received complaints against me because of mistakes , the problem I already told them that I need time to settle down and to go through PROPER training.Of course I make mistakes especially with the lousy training I went through.Putting me on the phone straight away on the first day make me lost and confused. Mediocue is the word to describe the way they work. Even in my previous companines, I was given at least a month to settle down. For them, its a day and they expect me to know everything, that is how I felt . Anyway, I told her that I like to be transfer to the company itself if its not possible , I quit . So that was it , I quit the next day.
I got another job , starting this coming monday. This time , I checked my facts before agreeing to join them . Lesson learned from that bad experience.
I wont buy that companies's products. Especially I heard of lots of complaints with their household products. Rubbish. -
Well, your mistake was the endorsing of a CONTRACT you did not carefully read through.
Secondly, you did not thoroughly investigate the company you are applying to join.
A lesson to be learned, and added to your working experience. -
Hi ShutterBug,
your reply is meant for me??? -
sigh.Originally posted by zuccamori:hi 'egg-san' (tamago),
yea, that's why i asked him last sat if got compensation or not but he gives me yes/no kind of 'answer'.. i mean if yes say yes, dun gimme nonsense. this is also part of the reason why i dun wanna talk to him abt my situation. he should have the common sense to know that it's a horrible thing to leave me in the office like that, what's more his information abt doing tasks all salah.
I have no more heart to stay there le, cos of the 'no system' thingy.. sigh, even he pays me 3k i also dun dare to stay.
ya, good to hear that ur situation is bearable... i suppose it's just not my luck and after all, i have been so comfy for the past 4 years at my previous co, have been really lucky to learn marketing (i graduated with IT Diploma) and stuff..
at the very least, i do not regret anything abt leaving my prev job (wanted more exp), or even joining this current one. just my luck that things do not work out.
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Lessons are meant to learn but what matters is don't let this setback affect you. There are other oppounities , don't worry. I dont recommand going through job agency , it's better to work directly with the company. So yeah.
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Your friend is not giving you good advice ! How can she ask you not to call your boss till you get your claim and pay first. If you still want your pay, which is for this month job, at least you should do your work - answer and talk to your boss till month end. If you not month end decide to stop working and disppear, then how to pay you for the month ?Originally posted by zuccamori:hi storywolf,
thanks for your reply. yeah, it's what my aunt told me as well.
yea, i will DEFINATELY not pay the 2k, it's in my plans to call Shin Min or Wanbao if things dun work out. Even my aunt, who is a devoted Christian, feels sorry for me and says that i should not care abt the agency and this company is not right for me. i might as well look for other jobs once i leave rather than stay there 2 months and take the s*** and cannot go for potential interviews.
i am on 2 day mc, tomolo go back. remember i say i supposed to divert the office phone to my mobile each day? well, i did not do that on tue, cos i very unhappy, actually i did, but later i deactivated again. heng dun have if not how to rest these 2 days.
then yesterday morning, i sms him say that i mc cannot go in, i went to take mc and was given 2 days. at night, i sms him that i still not feeling good, will take the 2nd day as well. he never replied. just now, i woke up, saw missed calls from him in hk and a msg in mailbox, haven go listen. but he sure wanna know why i din divert my phone. anyway i will tell him that maybe i din activate properly lo.
i am so sick of working for him now.
just listened to the msg, he wants me to call him. sickening, he is in HK and i dun think i can ever claim back my phone charges and sms.
told my friend and she said dun call him, but i want to make sure i get my claims and pay first, so wun wanna let him guess that i may quit. cos he may have some contingency plans worked out, esp he knows of my 2 months bond with agency.
i am also quite worried that the agency will argue that it is between me and employer and they have delivered what they should have, cos part of the probs are not just job scope related but pertaining to having 'no system'. Like the shipping matters i was told that i am supposed to liaise these few months, but i am unhappy cos it forms the bulk of my work and though i need not prepare the documents (should be my boss), he held up things and i am unhappy cos it's very inefficient
my friend says i really worry too much and see too muxh into details. yeah, i think it's just me, my bad habit. cos i feel really scared at times esp i am alone there. hope all will go well. -
Originally posted by ShutterBug:Well, your mistake was the endorsing of a CONTRACT you did not carefully read through.
Secondly, you did not thoroughly investigate the company you are applying to join.
A lesson to be learned, and added to your working experience.