Enough of Singnet But Need Convincing My Family Members
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I had been experincing more than enough problems with my Singnet connection, with problems ranging from laggy or slow-as-a-snail connections to being completely unable to access some web sites, and - a problem I discovered just now - "blurping" connections to internet radio. I have been wanting to switch over to a Starhub connection for a long time (my contract with Singnet ended earlier this year, by the way. In fact, I have been reading up on a lot of Starhub's promotional material, and I have also heard of generally better quality and service from Starhub. Plus, this Straits Times letter, in which the writer wrote that even Delhi, India, a city that is behind us by a lot technologically, has a 512K broadband connection that is better than Singnet's 1500K connection, among other things. Also, Starhub's 4000K plan, at $50+ a month, is cheaper than my current Singnet's 512K plan, which is priced at $70+ a month (and which has deeply burned my pocket, myself earning only $310 a month serving my N.S. as a clerk).
Yet, there is a problem.
You see, even though the Singnet connection account is under my name, I co-pay with my sister as she also uses it (and has agreed to it). And even though my sister and I are given a lot of autonomy when it comes to finacial things, my mother still controls some aspects of it, and she does use the internet ocassionally. Because of this, I need to "negotiate" with my family on this.
But no matter how hard I try, even using the information I have armed myself with, I fail to convince either of them to switch. And this is on top of my sister admitting herself that she has also experinced problems with the connection. They just tell me to "bear with it".
Why? "Promotions."
Despite the current promotion, they keep telling me to wait out until "something sweeter arrives". And when they do that, my mother will start on how there might be promotions for a computer at the end of this year, and blah blah blah. I try telling them that "I had enough" and convincing them that the current promotions are sweet enough (and that was before Starhub's current promotion), but they just won't listen, caring about only for the promotion and disregarding the actual product.
Not only that, they try to convince me that Starhub is not worth it, countering with that Starhub disconnects the moment you make a late payment.
Seriously, promotions are just a gimmick to lure new customers. Not only that, it also serves to distract customers from the actual product they are paying for. I don't care much about promotions, and I feel the current one looks good enough to me. And there's another thing - what if, at the end of this year, the promotion is not what they expect? Continue to wait while bearing with such a poor-quality connection?
Ironically, it was my same family members who tried to tell me not to sign up for Singnet way back when I was deciding on a broadband plan. I didn't knew anything at that time, and I first selected Pacific Internet, but switched over to Singnet when they failed to deliver and I terminated it even before they started. Now, they are telling me to bear with Singnet just because of promotions, and even when they themselves experince problems.
I have run out of energy to convince them, and I need you guys to help, especially on all this promotion nonsense. I just can't stand Singnet anymore. -
You earning 310 per month?
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1500 user here. what's the actual problem?
You just want starhub regardless whether you can solve the immediate issue right? -
Each and every ISP has their own sets of problems, don't be so fast to judge.
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You are right partially - I want Starhub as I had enough. But it's not just whether I can resolve the immediate issue even I don't switch. The fees - I don't feel like it's worth paying that much for this s**t.Originally posted by M©+square:1500 user here. what's the actual problem?
You just want starhub regardless whether you can solve the immediate issue right?
N.S.... no choice...Originally posted by mhcampboy:You earning 310 per month? 
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serious ba?.... 310???Originally posted by eX.A.K.R.:N.S.... no choice...
i tot minimum is 350? -
Ok ok.
So it's the comparison of bills. -
What had you expect when you are still a recruit rank (PES E... grrr...)...Originally posted by mhcampboy:serious ba?.... 310???
i tot minimum is 350?
Anyway, any solutions?
So, do you know what problems Starhub users face?Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Each and every ISP has their own sets of problems, don't be so fast to judge. -
i use starhub. i have no probs.Originally posted by eX.A.K.R.:So, do you know what problems Starhub users face?
Switched from SCV to singnet and went back to starhub.
No regrets. -
Hmmm, from what ive gathered, starhub tends to disconnect by itself after certain period of time. but i never faced that problem before. And connection seemed laggy if lots of people in the area is using the net at the same time as they are using the same cable line. again i did not faced that problem before... or i didnt notice anything....
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I wouldn't compare, but that's what I feel from my experience with Starhub and Singnet.Originally posted by eX.A.K.R.:So, do you know what problems Starhub users face?
Advantages of Singnet:
1) The connection is reliable, as long as your system is pretty clean. Even if it's not, it will only slow down the connection.
2) In terms of speed, it's quite fast, though compared with Starhub, Starhub is faster if there are lesser users in a particular area.
Disadvantages of Singnet:
1) You need special software to access the Net. I signed up with Singnet in year 2003, and I needed this software called Win POET. Without it, you can't access the Net. I lost the disc, so have to call up Singnet, and you have to pay for this service. I'm not too sure for wireless, I just have no wish to upgrade.
2) Singnet seems to have a certain maintainence time, especially after 10pm. The surfing speed would suffer terribly. At its worst, some websites can't be access, but it's possible to access the same website if you are using Starhub.
Advantages of Starhub:
1) Fast surfing speeds. The difference is significant if you are surfing international websites. If it is a local website, it wouldn't be significant.
Disadvantages of Starhub:
1) It would disconnect abruptly. I don't know why this happen, but it's quite common with me. Other times, I can't access the Net, but it shows me as connected. I have to repair the connection after surfing for some time as I can't connect to the web servers.
I'm still using Singnet, I've no problems with it. Just as long as you keep your system pretty clean, you should have no problems. -
No problems with Singnet, no programs needed.
Just plug ethernet cable and surf.
Only complain is, P2P and BT cannot use liao....
Net surf/streaming - stable, but not fanstatic.
No matter how you compare, Starhub truly have the edge over Starhub. -
Err.... what does this sentence means?Originally posted by M©+square:No matter how you compare, Starhub truly have the edge over Starhub. -
Originally posted by M©+square:
nice comparision
No problems with Singnet, no programs needed.
Just plug ethernet cable and surf.
Only complain is, P2P and BT cannot use liao....
Net surf/streaming - stable, but not fanstatic.
No matter how you compare, Starhub truly have the edge over Starhub.
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you sure singnet cannot use P2P and BT anot? I thought only starhub then got throttle P2P traffic?Originally posted by M©+square:No problems with Singnet, no programs needed.
Just plug ethernet cable and surf.
Only complain is, P2P and BT cannot use liao....
Net surf/streaming - stable, but not fanstatic.
No matter how you compare, Starhub truly have the edge over Starhub.
btw, is singnet have edge over starhub or other way around
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right now, i can't access www.bbc.co.uk, www.channelnewsasia.com, www.cnn.com, www.bloomberg.com, www.comics.com, www.football365.com
and many others...
what the hell is going on? -
starhub has fast download speeds..for me that is reason enough..
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singnet installed new filter few months ago. or updated it.Originally posted by enemychaser:you sure singnet cannot use P2P and BT anot? I thought only starhub then got throttle P2P traffic?
btw, is singnet have edge over starhub or other way around -
i can't access my own forum! wtf!?Originally posted by the Bear:right now, i can't access www.bbc.co.uk, www.channelnewsasia.com, www.cnn.com, www.bloomberg.com, www.comics.com, www.football365.com
and many others...
what the hell is going on? -
well, i tried to access:
www.singnet.com
www.singnet.com.sg
www.singtel.com
www.singtel.com.sg
all i got were error messages...
i think i can safely tell them to go die in a fire
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same here.Originally posted by the Bear:well, i tried to access:
www.singnet.com
www.singnet.com.sg
www.singtel.com
www.singtel.com.sg
all i got were error messages...
i think i can safely tell them to go die in a fire -
I'm sure mine is hoplessly slow for P2P and BT.Originally posted by enemychaser:you sure singnet cannot use P2P and BT anot? I thought only starhub then got throttle P2P traffic?
btw, is singnet have edge over starhub or other way around
I know many who still BT and P2P using Singnet bb.
That's why it's my only complain i have lor.
Maybe i'm BT noob.... -
i change to utorrent after dat.Originally posted by M©+square:I'm sure mine is hoplessly slow for P2P and BT.
I know many who still BT and P2P using Singnet bb.
That's why it's my only complain i have lor.
Maybe i'm BT noob....
fine so far. -
can't access google too
tell you what.. tomorrow, EVERYONE call up Singtel and rant at them... -
strange thing how come can access sgforums?Originally posted by the Bear:can't access google too
tell you what.. tomorrow, EVERYONE call up Singtel and rant at them...
msn on oso.