Because of 2 captured soldiers...

• dragg

  22 Jul 06, 15:21

  300 lebanese civilians dead already.
  
  all because of 2 israelis!!
  
  
• MobyDog

  22 Jul 06, 16:13

  Originally posted by Kenashi:

  where go kidnapping??
  those were arrests made when israel occupied lebanon
  the soldiers were kidnapped by terrorists who dug a tunnel into israel
  get yr facts straight

  You see that's when Hypocracy takes place.
  Israel 'capture' and 'arrest'.. while others 'Kidnap'.. I'm using words blended in by others.
  
  Btw, fully armed soldiers - being kidnapped ..But not captured, while they are in someones else countries - occupying them or soldiering their border ? I'm talking about Gaza here.
• MobyDog

  22 Jul 06, 16:17

  Originally posted by Kenashi:

  if a country cannot even attack in self-defence, might as well roll over n play dead lah.
  how would u like to be the soldier who ganna kidnapped by malaysian n singapore just sit on it
  laugh at that

  Why are the soldiers in Malaysia then ? Malaysian has no right to detain them.. they have no such right to self-defence ?
• MobyDog

  22 Jul 06, 16:19

  Originally posted by Kenashi:

  there is always photoshop or fake photos

  Yes, and that's the usual excuse I am expecting... and what abot the launching slide ??
  
  If those soldiers were to be wearing Lebanese uniforms, you won't say the same would you ?
• MobyDog

  22 Jul 06, 16:22

  Originally posted by Kenashi:

  look at this :
  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060712/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_israel_clash
  
  http://apnews.excite.com/article/20060712/D8IQHO007.html

  I don't have to... all main stream media will report this..
  
  The same ones that gave us 'WMD in Iraq' and Iraq was involved with '9/11'. The yellow cake incident, Gulf of Tonkin and USS Liberty.
• MobyDog

  22 Jul 06, 16:47

  Originally posted by BillyBong:
  
  So why say kidnap if you meant assassinate? If you really want to dwell in technicalities of the English Language, where is your 'either/or' inference? The innuendo here is both kidnap AND assassinate. Stop trying to twist and turn your own statements to meet your own agenda.

  I have given you links to kidnap.. check the post again.
  
  Of course, Israel only captures.. and others 'kidnap'. you're statements does also meet your own agendas.
  
  So here some English Lessons for you.
  

  And btw, 'veto' is termed 'vested rights' by one party to refuse approval of measures proposed.
  
  So basically your last line: UN PeaceKeeping veto by US for our sake ??? is rather comical...

  A car hit a Cat.
  
  A cat hit by a car.... get it.
  
  Actually, I wrote 'con't to kidnap and knock off Hamas and palestinian leaders'
  In general terms, It means Hamas and Palestinian are either Kidnap and Assissinated, or Both
  
  You own level English is indeed questionable.. so stop correcting others and twisting it yourself.
  
  

  As for those helpful links regarding CAPTURED Palestinian Aggressors, having read them yourself, you should well know that they were captured and interrogated for organising homicide bombings and other acts of aggression. The Fatah Chief and other detainees are high-level prisoners with significant intelligence to offer Israel. They are NOT being traded or offered in exchange for land or ceasefire but are interned for their roles in the killing of civilians and acts of terrorism.

  Hypocracy.... Israel kills more civilians, instead of strapped bombs... they use arty shelling and ariel strikes and of course "assissinations'.
  
  

  Since you confuse KIDNAP and CAPTURE, answer this then: what reason did Hezbollah have to make an aggressive cross-border raid and 'capture' two low-ranked soldiers who have no real intelligence purpose?

  Because the day before, the Israeli cross into Palestine ,dead in the night, to 'capture' not 'kidnap' two brothers (sons of a Hamas leader)... What's the difference ?
  
  

  Why did they then demand for the release of prisoners held in Israeli jails in EXCHANGE for the two 'captured' soldiers? Isn't that a clear case of extortion and ransom?

  Will Israel release them otherwise?
  
  

  How should Israel respond to that? What do you suggest? What alternatives do you offer?
  
  All you have given are anti-israeli jibes with no solution to the contrary.

  You mean to blow up civilians and infrastucture wantoning will solve the problem ?
• MobyDog

  22 Jul 06, 16:53

  Originally posted by BillyBong:
  
  Since your provide such a incredible example, should we take your posts seriously?
  
  Will the SG govt suddenly go insanely dictorial overnight and order an invasion of Johor? And for what - water? More land perhaps?

  Yoy should really read people's post correctly.. The scenario reflex Israel/Lebanese issue... not water.
  
  I understand the problems Israeli is facing, but Israel is also part of the problem.
  
  

  Conflicts can be solved without the need for terrorist activities. Kuwait was liberated from Iraq without the need to resort to terrorism. The Argentines were driven out of the Falklands without the use or need of terrorist tactics.

  You're examples are skewed, those are out right military to miltary actions.. which means war between twp legit governments.
  
  Your rhetorics are stunning
• MobyDog

  22 Jul 06, 18:09

  NY TIMES - US rushes precision-guided bombs to Israel
  
  http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=TopNews&storyID=2006-07-22T051532Z_01_N21268027_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-BUSH-WEAPONS.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C2-TopNews-TopNews-2
  
  First, US veto UN Peacekeeper to Lebanon.
  
  Then Tells Israel "you have another week"
  
  Then Adds oil(PGMs) to fire(Bombings)... FREE SOME MORE...
• Kenashi

  22 Jul 06, 18:44

  Originally posted by dragg:

  300 lebanese civilians dead already.
  
  all because of 2 israelis!!
  
  

  if the terrorists did not kidnap the two israelis, the 300 civilians won't be dead.
  who should be blamed for the deaths?
  the hand that pulled the trigger or the brain that gave the thought??
  
• Kenashi

  22 Jul 06, 18:47

  Originally posted by MobyDog:

  You see that's when Hypocracy takes place.
  Israel 'capture' and 'arrest'.. while others 'Kidnap'.. I'm using words blended in by others.
  
  Btw, fully armed soldiers - being kidnapped ..But not captured, while they are in someones else countries - occupying them or soldiering their border ? I'm talking about Gaza here.

  so u saying that if our soldiers on peace-keeping mission ganna kidnapped is going to be called capture lah??? - soldiering others' border.
  
• Kenashi

  22 Jul 06, 18:48

  Originally posted by MobyDog:

  Why are the soldiers in Malaysia then ? Malaysian has no right to detain them.. they have no such right to self-defence ?

  i am talking about our soldiers been kidnapped from our borders!!
  i referring to your case of soldiers kidnapped on their own soil.
  
• Kenashi

  22 Jul 06, 18:50

  Originally posted by MobyDog:

  Yes, and that's the usual excuse I am expecting... and what abot the launching slide ??
  
  If those soldiers were to be wearing Lebanese uniforms, you won't say the same would you ?

  i oso will say the same things.
  if any side launch a chemical attack, the other side will surely announce it to the world for condemnation!
  nobody that stupid!
  everyone is against non-conventional warfare
• MobyDog

  22 Jul 06, 18:50

  Originally posted by Kenashi:

  so u saying that if our soldiers on peace-keeping mission ganna kidnapped is going to be called capture lah??? - soldiering others' border.
  

  Yes, usually do.. Do you often read Newspaper. Soldiers are captured.. seldom hear they are kidnap.. until now
  
  BTW, those two israel soldiers are not Peacekeepers, theu incurred across the border
• Kenashi

  22 Jul 06, 18:51

  Originally posted by MobyDog:

  I don't have to... all main stream media will report this..
  
  The same ones that gave us 'WMD in Iraq' and Iraq was involved with '9/11'. The yellow cake incident, Gulf of Tonkin and USS Liberty.

  so u still saying that the 2 israel soldiers kidnapped on outside israel?
  
• MobyDog

  22 Jul 06, 18:53

  Originally posted by Kenashi:

  i am talking about our soldiers been kidnapped from our borders!!
  i referring to your case of soldiers kidnapped on their own soil.
  

  I was refer to soldiers capture across the border .
• Kenashi

  22 Jul 06, 18:53

  Originally posted by MobyDog:

  NY TIMES - US rushes precision-guided bombs to Israel
  
  http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=TopNews&storyID=2006-07-22T051532Z_01_N21268027_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-BUSH-WEAPONS.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C2-TopNews-TopNews-2
  
  First, US veto UN Peacekeeper to Lebanon.
  
  Then Tells Israel "you have another week"
  
  Then Adds oil(PGMs) to fire(Bombings)... FREE SOME MORE...

  becos of guys like u who said they can't aim properly mah
  so USA give them more precise weapons n u oso complain.
  what the FXXK do u want!!!
  
  u live to complain only huh!!
• MobyDog

  22 Jul 06, 18:55

  Originally posted by Kenashi:

  i oso will say the same things.
  if any side launch a chemical attack, the other side will surely announce it to the world for condemnation!
  nobody that stupid!
  everyone is against non-conventional warfare

  Not when journalist and civilian are asked to leave the area, which was under bombardment.
  
  Usually such cases are only reported much later. usually after any conflict.
  
  Because core samples has to be taken and analysis on site and of course survivors (If any)
  
  The US had used chemical bio weapons in both Korea and Vietnam war, but only after decades, did all this came out. Because who controls much of tye media outlet >?
• MobyDog

  22 Jul 06, 18:56

  Originally posted by Kenashi:

  so u still saying that the 2 israel soldiers kidnapped on outside israel?
  

  Yes, I have the links - check the past post.
• MobyDog

  22 Jul 06, 19:01

  Originally posted by Kenashi:

  becos of guys like u who said they can't aim properly mah
  so USA give them more precise weapons n u oso complain.
  what the FXXK do u want!!!
  
  u live to complain only huh!!

  Don't you find it funny, They actually say they bomb indiscriminatly.. it was the Lebanese tat couldn't aim properly. The Irael did say that the use Precision Bombing - not teh Lebanese.
  
  It's bad enough the the US veto Peacekeepers, US should not fuel the violence.. Lebanese Civilian has nothing to do with the so-called ' kidnapping'.
• Kenashi

  22 Jul 06, 19:15

  Originally posted by MobyDog:

  Not when journalist and civilian are asked to leave the area, which was under bombardment.
  
  Usually such cases are only reported much later. usually after any conflict.
  
  Because core samples has to be taken and analysis on site and of course survivors (If any)
  
  The US had used chemical bio weapons in both Korea and Vietnam war, but only after decades, did all this came out. Because who controls much of tye media outlet >?

  that's becos vietnam n korea did not capitalise on the power of world media.
  nowadays there is internet, at the click of a button, the case can be brought to the world attention.
  
• stevenliew

  23 Jul 06, 00:26

  aiya...........singapore can kaypoh go help israell anot?
  can get free oil!
  haha
• hoganrock

  23 Jul 06, 07:43

  Originally posted by stevenliew:

  aiya...........singapore can kaypoh go help israell anot?
  can get free oil!
  haha

  i think cannot
• Glen999

  23 Jul 06, 09:02

  Originally posted by stevenliew:

  aiya...........singapore can kaypoh go help israell anot?
  can get free oil!
  haha

  free oil from israel?
• Glen999

  23 Jul 06, 09:05

  
  i think US and big countries keep supporting Israel, therefore, this middleeast issue never be resolved....
  
  this is the root cause.
• hoganrock

  23 Jul 06, 09:18

  Originally posted by Glen999:

  i think US and big countries keep supporting Israel, therefore, this middleeast issue never be resolved....
  
  this is the root cause.

  ya