should teachers be allowed to punished harshly in school?
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to snoopy81,
hey long time no see...yup, can move upper body but his legs were really painful and tired at the end of it...actually, its no diff from standing inside a small circle...juz tat my tutor didnt draw any circle but the standing position is similar...tat was her standard for standing punishments...
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Originally posted by despondent:
to snoopy81,
hey long time no see...yup, can move upper body but his legs were really painful and tired at the end of it...actually, its no diff from standing inside a small circle...juz tat my tutor didnt draw any circle but the standing position is similar...tat was her standard for standing punishments...
Hey despondant, nice to see you again! Yeah I agree it is similar to standing inside small circle. But so surprise that a tutor can give such punishments. Haha ... I heard some students were also punished to stand on chair in tuition centre. Btw, my friend who is a tutor punishes her students to do push-ups and sit-ups if they didn'tdo her homework. She said its more meaningful punishment. Is your tutor a female and how old was she when she gave this punishment? The poor boy must stand with feets together? Seems like female teachers love standing punishments! -
she belonged to the older generation of teachers...tat time she was late forties to early fifties...she wasnt juz a private tutor but also a school teacher...yup, she expected the boy to stand wif feet tgr for the entire duration and she would scold him each time she caught him standing on one leg...actually, the part of the legs tat really hurt would be the ankles downwards cos the entire body weight was supported by 2 small feet standing in such a small surface area...
it could be cos she was also a teacher in school tat she knew abt such a punishment...she did mention stand in circle punishment b4 to us as far as i can remember...
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Originally posted by despondent:
she belonged to the older generation of teachers...tat time she was late forties to early fifties...she wasnt juz a private tutor but also a school teacher...yup, she expected the boy to stand wif feet tgr for the entire duration and she would scold him each time she caught him standing on one leg...actually, the part of the legs tat really hurt would be the ankles downwards cos the entire body weight was supported by 2 small feet standing in such a small surface area...
it could be cos she was also a teacher in school tat she knew abt such a punishment...she did mention stand in circle punishment b4 to us as far as i can remember...
Isn't this punishment more effective if the boy was made to stand on chair? The surface area of the chair is so small that the boy must keep his feet together and cannot move his feet. In this way, it will ensure the boy stand properly. Perhaps this is the reason why teachers came up with this stand-on-chair punishment? I know of some female students who will stand properly (with feets together) throughout the entire duration whereas boys will keep moving about. Haha perhaps girls have better endurance and female teachers expect such standards? -
Originally posted by soleachip:
should teachers be allowed to punish students in school?
of course! i advocate tough love because it worked (seemed to) for my generation.
Yes teachers should be allow to punish any students who flout the rules of the school.eg such as stealing, fighting, extortion, gangsters, smoking.
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to snoopy81,
wad kind of chair are u toking abt? if its those we usually sit on in offices and in the classrooms, then the surface area is actually quite big...unless u are referring to a stool but standing on it will be rather dangerous as stools are not very stable...the student may lose his balance and fall off, causing injuries...
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I remember my kid was ask to stand outside of the classroom for being naughty this year...of course I did not call up and defend him.
I told my son, you deserve it for being naughty in class.
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Originally posted by despondent:
to snoopy81,
wad kind of chair are u toking abt? if its those we usually sit on in offices and in the classrooms, then the surface area is actually quite big...unless u are referring to a stool but standing on it will be rather dangerous as stools are not very stable...the student may lose his balance and fall off, causing injuries...
Its the kind of chair that we have in secondary school classrooms. When you stand on it, you can't move about. -
i think the naughty girls shld be caned on their bare bottom in front of the class
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Originally posted by despondent:
harlo!!! yupyup...for the old-timers in sgforums...u may find tis familiar...but i juz tot i will post tis in a diff. forum...
all of us i believe have had our fair share of being punished in school. some punishments r more physical while others more psychological...physical ones include caning, CWO, kneeling or standing for long periods etc...psychological ones like pulling of ears, facing the wall, being ask to sing in front of whole class etc...i personally feel tat diff. punishments shld vary wif the severity of offences n the age of the student involved...surely u wun wanna shame a university student by punishing him like a primary schoolboy?
below is a true account of a student i noe who was punished by a teacher...he was punished for spewing 1 word of vulgarity...
student: @#%()&*&^%$%^*
teacher: U!!! COME HERE!!! HOW DARE U SAY TAT!!! COME HERE!!!
boy approaches n teacher scolded: WAD DID U SAY JUZ NW?! I DARE U TO REPEAT WAD U SAID JUZ NW!!!
STUDENT: i didnt say anything...
teacher: DUN DENY IT ALRITE!!! I HEARD WAD U SAID!!! I HEARD U!!!(pulls student to 1 corner) SLAP URSELF!!! SLAP!!! KEEP ON SLAPPING!!
(abt 10 min later) teacher: U R NT SLAPPING...U R PATTING!!!(pulls student out of class) dun wanna slap rite...face the whole school n slap...
in the end, DM happen to walk pass...teacher complained abt student to him n student was caned in front of whole class...
after the caning...
teacher: COME HERE!!! (pulls student to one corner) STAND HERE N CONTINUE TO SLAP URSELF!!! I WANT SLAPS NT PATS!!! (student began to slap himself) U CALL TAT SLAPPING? HARDER!!! (student slaps harder) ALRITE!!! KEEP IT TAT WAY!!!
after abt 5min...
teacher(points finger at student): U R NT SLAPPING AGAIN!!! I TOLD U TO SLAP HARD RITE!!! HOW DARE U DISOBEY MY ORDERS!!! DO U WANT ANOTHER ROUND OF PUBLIC CANING??? (student began slapping himself hard again) MAKE SURE U KEEP TIS UP UNTIL I SAY U CAN STOP, ONE MORE TIME...N U WILL GET IT FROM ME!!! I WANT EVERY SLAP TO BE EQUALLY HARD, DO U UNDERSTAND???
in the end, student was made to slap himself for another 10-15 min...he had red cheeks after tat n had teary eyes...thru out the time, we could hear the slaps coming from his cheeks...the teacher kept an eye on him at regular intervals to ensure every slap was hard, she gave him no chance to slack at all...wad r ur views abt tis? was the teacher too harsh? was the student deserving of the punishment? air them here...
Teacher must be careful. Or else can produce another Rage Shooter. Here is a story:-Behavior in school
Cho studied at Poplar Tree Elementary School in Chantilly, an unincorporated, small community in Fairfax County. According to Kim Gyeong-won, who met Cho in the fifth grade and took classes with him,[23] Cho finished the three-year program at Poplar Tree Elementary School in one and a half years. Cho was noted for being good at mathematics and English, and teachers pointed to him as an example for other students.[24] At that time, according to Kim, nobody disliked Cho and he "was recognized by friends as a boy of knowledge;... a good dresser who was popular with the girls." Kim added that "I only have good memories about him."[23][24] An acquaintance noted that "Every time he came home from school he would cry and throw tantrums saying he never wanted to return to school" when Cho first came to America in about the second grade.[25]
Cho attended secondary schools in Fairfax County, including Ormond Stone Middle School in Centreville[21] and Westfield High School in Chantilly,[12] and by eighth grade had been diagnosed with selective mutism, a social anxiety disorder which inhibited him from speaking.[26] Through high school, he was teased for his shyness and unusual speech patterns. Some classmates even offered their lunch money to Cho just to hear him talk.[21] According to Chris Davids, a high school classmate in Cho's English class at Westfield High School, Cho looked down and refused to speak when called upon. Davids added that, after one teacher threatened to give Cho a failing grade for not participating in class, he began reading in a strange, deep voice that sounded "like he had something in his mouth. [...] The whole class started laughing and pointing and saying, 'Go back to China.'" Another classmate, Stephanie Roberts, stated that "there were just some people who were really cruel to him, and they would push him down and laugh at him. He didn't speak English really well, and they would really make fun of him."[27] Cho was also teased as the "trombone kid" for his practice of walking to school alone with his trombone. Other students recall crueler names and that most of the bullying was because he was alone.[28] Christopher Chomchird and Carmen Blandon, former classmates of Cho, stated that they heard rumors of a "hit list" of other students Cho wanted to kill. Blandon stated that she saw the "list" as a joke at the time.[29] While several students recalled instances of Cho being teased and mocked at Westfield, most left him alone and later said they were not aware of his anger.[30][31] Cho graduated from Westfield High School in 2003.[4]
In 1999, during the spring of Cho's eighth grade year, the Columbine High School massacre made national news. Cho was transfixed by it. "I remember sitting in Spanish class with him, right next to him, and there being something written on his binder to the effect of, you know, ' 'F' you all, I hope you all burn in hell,' which I would assume meant us, the students," said Ben Baldwin, a classmate of Cho.[25] Also, Cho wrote in a school assignment about wanting to "repeat Columbine". The school contacted Cho's sister, who reported the incident to their parents. Cho was sent to a psychiatrist.[32]
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Then later in life for Mr Cho:-
Demeanor at Virginia Tech
In his freshman year at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University (Virginia Tech), Cho enrolled as an undergraduate major in business information technology a program that included "a combination of computer science and management coursework offered by the Pamplin College of Business."[41] The program was listed as No. 6 on the "list of majors with the highest median starting salary after graduation."[41] By his senior year, Cho was majoring in English. Virginia Tech declined to divulge details about Cho's academic record and why he changed his major, citing privacy laws.[41]
At the time of the attacks, Cho lived with five roommates in Suite 2121, a three-room dormitory at Harper Hall,[42][43] located just west of West Ambler Johnston Hall on the Virginia Tech campus.[44]
[edit] Relationship with professors
Professor and acclaimed poet Nikki Giovanni, who taught Cho in a poetry class, stated that she had him removed from her class because she found his behavior "menacing". She recalled that Cho had a "mean streak" and described his writing as "intimidating". After Giovanni was informed of the massacre, she remarked that "[I] knew when it happened that that's probably who it was," and "would have been shocked if it wasn't".[45] Giovanni insisted that Cho be removed from her class in 2005, about six weeks after the semester began in September. Cho had intimidated female students by photographing their legs under their desks and by writing obscene, violent poetry.[46] Giovanni offered that "[she] was willing to resign before [she] would continue with him."[47] Because of her concerns about Cho, Giovanni wrote a letter to then-department head Lucinda Roy, who removed Cho from the class. Roy alerted the student affairs office, the dean's office, and the campus police, but each office responded that there was nothing they could do if Cho made no overt threats against himself or others.[48]
Roy described Cho as "an intelligent man", and stated that he seemed to be an awkward, lonely and insecure student who never took off his sunglasses, even indoors. She described Cho's behavior as "arrogant" and "obnoxious" at times,[49] and that she tried several different ways to help him.[50] Roy declined to comment about Cho’s writings, saying only in general that the writings "seemed very angry". She added that Cho whispered his response after taking 20 seconds to answer questions, and he also took cell phone pictures of her in class. After Roy became concerned with Cho's behavior and the themes in his writings, she started meeting with Cho to work with him one-on-one. As Roy worked with Cho, she became concerned for her safety. She told her assistant that, if she uttered the name of a dead professor (which served as a duress code), the assistant was to call security.[51] After Roy notified legal authorities about Cho's behavior, she urged Cho to seek counseling. Roy said that, to her knowledge, Cho never followed through with the request.[4]
When Virginia Tech creative writing professor Lisa Norris, who taught Cho in both Advanced Fiction Writing and Contemporary Fiction, inquired about him from Mary Ann Lewis, associate dean for Liberal Arts and Human Sciences at Virginia Tech, she was not told that he was suffering from mental health problems or about prior police reports concerning the harassment of female students. Norris noted that, "my guess is that either the information was not accessible to her or it was privileged and could not be released to me."[52] Lewis told Norris to recommend that Cho seek counseling at the on-campus Cook Counseling Center, which she had already done.[52]
[edit] Relationship with students
Fellow students described Cho as a "quiet" person who "would not respond if someone greeted him." Student Julie Poole recalled the first day of a literature class the previous year when the students introduced themselves one by one. When it was Cho's turn to introduce himself, he did not speak. According to Poole, the professor looked at the sign-in sheet and found that, whereas everyone else had written out their names, Cho had written only a question mark. Poole added that "we just really knew him as the question mark kid".[53]
Karan Grewal, who shared a suite with Cho at Harper Hall, reported that Cho "would sit in a wood rocker by the window [in his room at the dormitory]; and stare at the lawn below". According to Grewal, "Cho appeared to never to go [sic] to class or read a book" during his (Cho's) senior year," adding that Cho just typed on his laptop, went to the dining hall and clipped his hair in the bathroom, cleaning up the hair afterwards. Grewal also reported that he witnessed Cho riding his bicycle in circles in the parking lot of the dormitory.[41]
Andy Koch and John Eide, who once shared a room with Cho at Cochrane Hall during 2005 and 2006,[54][55] stated that Cho demonstrated other repetitive behaviors, such as listening repeatedly to "Shine" by the alternative rock band Collective Soul.[56] Cho wrote the song's lyrics "Teach me how to speak; Teach me how to share; Teach me where to go" on the wall of his dormitory room.[45][57][58] Koch described two further unusual incidents, including one where Cho stood in the doorway of his room late at night taking photographs of him (Koch) and a second incident where Cho repeatedly placed harassing cell phone calls to Koch as "Cho's brother, 'Question Mark'", a name Cho also used when introducing himself to girls. Koch and Eide searched Cho's belongings and found a pocket knife, but they did not find any items that they deemed seriously threatening to them.[55] Koch also described a telephone call that he received from Cho during the Thanksgiving holiday break from school. During that call, Koch said that Cho claimed to be "vacationing with Vladimir Putin", with Cho adding "Yeah, we're in North Carolina." In response, Koch told him "I'm pretty sure that's not possible, Seung."[59] Because of Cho's behavior, Koch and Eide, who had earlier tried to befriend him, gradually stopped talking to him and told their friends, especially female classmates, not to visit their room.[60]
Koch and Eide also stated that Cho was involved in at least three stalking incidents, two of which resulted in verbal warnings by the Virginia Tech campus police.[45][57][60] The first stalking incident occurred on November 27, 2005.[61] After the incident, according to Koch, Cho claimed to have sent an instant message online to the female student by AOL Instant Messenger and found out where she lived on the campus. Eide stated that Cho then visited her room to see if she was "cool", adding that Cho remarked that he only found "promiscuity in her eyes".[62] Eide added that, when Cho visited the female student, Cho said, "Hi, I'm Question Mark" to her, "which really freaked her out."[60] The female student called the campus police, complaining that Cho had sent her annoying messages and made an unannounced visit to her room.[61] Two uniformed members of the campus police visited Cho’s room at the dormitory later that evening and warned him not to contact the female student again. Cho made no further contact with the student.[62]
The final stalking incident came to light on December 13, 2005.[61][62] In the preceding days, Cho had contacted a female friend of Koch via AIM and wrote on her door board a line from Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet, Act 2, scene II, in which Romeo laments to Juliet:
“ By a name, I know not how to tell who I am. My name, dear saint, is hateful to myself, because it is an enemy to thee. Had I it written, I would tear the word.[63][64] ” The young woman was initially unconcerned by Cho's AIM messages and the Shakespearean graffiti he left on her door board, until she was contacted by Andy Koch via AIM. Koch told her that Cho was involved in an earlier stalking incident and that, "i think he is schophrenic" [sic].[65] Upon Koch's encouragement, the young woman contacted the campus police, who again warned Cho against further unwanted contact.[61] After that warning, Cho made no further contact with the second female student.
Later the same day, Cho sent a text message to Koch with the words, "I might as well kill myself now."[62] Worried that Cho was suicidal, Koch contacted his father for advice, and both of them contacted campus authorities. The campus police returned to the dormitory and escorted Cho to New River Valley Community Services Board, the Virginia mental health agency serving Blacksburg.[
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This is why Teacher cannot punish student too harsh. Or else unleash anger like Mr Cho:-
Virginia Tech massacre
Part of a series of articles on the
Virginia Tech massacre
Timeline
Perpetrator
Media coverageVictims Jamie Bishop
Jocelyne Couture-Nowak
Kevin Granata
Liviu Librescu
G. V. LoganathanMain article: Virginia Tech massacreAround 7:15 a.m. EDT (11:15 UTC) on April 16, 2007, Cho killed two students, Emily J. Hilscher and Ryan C. "Stack" Clark, on the fourth floor of West Ambler Johnston Hall, a high-rise co-educational dormitory.[50] Investigators later determined that Cho's shoes matched a blood-stained print found in the hallway outside Hilscher's room. The shoes and bloody jeans were found in Cho's dormitory room where he had stashed them after the attack.[72]
Within the next two and a half hours, Cho returned to his room to re-arm himself and mailed a package to NBC News that contained pictures, digital video files and documents.[73] At approximately 9:45 a.m. EDT (13:45 UTC), Cho then crossed the campus to Norris Hall, a classroom building on the campus where, in a span of nine minutes, Cho shot dozens of people, killing 30 of them.[50][74] As police breached the area of the building where Cho attacked the faculty and students, Cho committed suicide in Norris 211 with a gunshot to his temple.[75] Cho's gunshot wounds destroyed his face, frustrating identification of his body for several hours.[76] The police identified Cho by matching the fingerprints on the guns used in the shootings with immigration records.[4] Before the shootings, Cho's only known connection to Norris Hall was as a student in the sociology class, which met in a classroom on the second floor of the building.[41] Although police had not stated positively at the time of the initial investigation that Cho was the perpetrator of the Norris Hall shootings and the earlier one at West Ambler Johnston Hall, forensic evidence confirmed that the same gun was used in both shooting incidents.[46]
[edit] Preparation
[edit] Weapons
Glock 19 semi-automatic pistol, one of the models of handguns used by Cho
Walther P22 semi-automatic pistol, another model of handgun used by ChoDuring February and March 2007, Cho began purchasing the weapons that he later used during the killings. On February 9, 2007, Cho purchased his first handgun, a .22 caliber Walther P22 semi-automatic pistol, from TGSCOM Inc., a federally-licensed firearms dealer based in Green Bay, Wisconsin and the operator of the website through which Cho ordered the gun.[77][78][79][80] TGSCOM Inc. shipped the Walther P22 to JND Pawnbrokers in Blacksburg, Virginia, where Cho completed the legally-required background check for the purchase transaction and took possession of the handgun.[81] Cho bought a second handgun, a Glock 19 semiautomatic pistol, on March 13, 2007 from Roanoke Firearms, a licensed gun dealer located in Roanoke, Virginia.[77][82]
Cho was able to pass both background checks and successfully complete both handgun purchases after he presented to the gun dealers his U.S. permanent residency card, his Virginia driver's permit to prove legal age and length of Virginia residence and a checkbook showing his Virginia address, in addition to waiting the required 30-day period between each gun purchase. He was successful at completing both handgun purchases, even though he had failed to disclose information on the background questionnaire about his mental health that required court-ordered outpatient treatment at a mental health facility.[83][84][85]
On March 22, 2007, Cho purchased two 10-round magazines for the Walther P22 pistol through eBay from Elk Ridge Shooting Supplies in Idaho.[86] Based on a preliminary computer forensics examination of Cho's eBay purchase records, investigators suspected that Cho may have purchased an additional 10-round magazine on March 23, 2007 from another eBay seller who sold gun accessories.[87]
Cho also bought jacketed hollow-point bullets, which result in more tissue damage than full metal jacket bullets against unarmored targets[88] by expanding upon entering soft tissue.[89] Along with a manifesto, Cho later sent a photograph of the hollow point bullets to NBC News with the caption "All the [shit] you've given me, right back at you with hollow points."[90][91][92]
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This is why Teacher cannot punish student too harsh. Or else unleash anger like Mr Cho:-
Virginia Tech massacre
Part of a series of articles on the
Virginia Tech massacreTimeline
Perpetrator
Media coverageVictims Jamie Bishop
Jocelyne Couture-Nowak
Kevin Granata
Liviu Librescu
G. V. LoganathanMain article: Virginia Tech massacreAround 7:15 a.m. EDT (11:15 UTC) on April 16, 2007, Cho killed two students, Emily J. Hilscher and Ryan C. "Stack" Clark, on the fourth floor of West Ambler Johnston Hall, a high-rise co-educational dormitory.[50] Investigators later determined that Cho's shoes matched a blood-stained print found in the hallway outside Hilscher's room. The shoes and bloody jeans were found in Cho's dormitory room where he had stashed them after the attack.[72]
Within the next two and a half hours, Cho returned to his room to re-arm himself and mailed a package to NBC News that contained pictures, digital video files and documents.[73] At approximately 9:45 a.m. EDT (13:45 UTC), Cho then crossed the campus to Norris Hall, a classroom building on the campus where, in a span of nine minutes, Cho shot dozens of people, killing 30 of them.[50][74] As police breached the area of the building where Cho attacked the faculty and students, Cho committed suicide in Norris 211 with a gunshot to his temple.[75] Cho's gunshot wounds destroyed his face, frustrating identification of his body for several hours.[76] The police identified Cho by matching the fingerprints on the guns used in the shootings with immigration records.[4] Before the shootings, Cho's only known connection to Norris Hall was as a student in the sociology class, which met in a classroom on the second floor of the building.[41] Although police had not stated positively at the time of the initial investigation that Cho was the perpetrator of the Norris Hall shootings and the earlier one at West Ambler Johnston Hall, forensic evidence confirmed that the same gun was used in both shooting incidents.[46]
[edit] Preparation
[edit] Weapons
Glock 19 semi-automatic pistol, one of the models of handguns used by Cho
Walther P22 semi-automatic pistol, another model of handgun used by ChoDuring February and March 2007, Cho began purchasing the weapons that he later used during the killings. On February 9, 2007, Cho purchased his first handgun, a .22 caliber Walther P22 semi-automatic pistol, from TGSCOM Inc., a federally-licensed firearms dealer based in Green Bay, Wisconsin and the operator of the website through which Cho ordered the gun.[77][78][79][80] TGSCOM Inc. shipped the Walther P22 to JND Pawnbrokers in Blacksburg, Virginia, where Cho completed the legally-required background check for the purchase transaction and took possession of the handgun.[81] Cho bought a second handgun, a Glock 19 semiautomatic pistol, on March 13, 2007 from Roanoke Firearms, a licensed gun dealer located in Roanoke, Virginia.[77][82]
Cho was able to pass both background checks and successfully complete both handgun purchases after he presented to the gun dealers his U.S. permanent residency card, his Virginia driver's permit to prove legal age and length of Virginia residence and a checkbook showing his Virginia address, in addition to waiting the required 30-day period between each gun purchase. He was successful at completing both handgun purchases, even though he had failed to disclose information on the background questionnaire about his mental health that required court-ordered outpatient treatment at a mental health facility.[83][84][85]
On March 22, 2007, Cho purchased two 10-round magazines for the Walther P22 pistol through eBay from Elk Ridge Shooting Supplies in Idaho.[86] Based on a preliminary computer forensics examination of Cho's eBay purchase records, investigators suspected that Cho may have purchased an additional 10-round magazine on March 23, 2007 from another eBay seller who sold gun accessories.[87]
Cho also bought jacketed hollow-point bullets, which result in more tissue damage than full metal jacket bullets against unarmored targets[88] by expanding upon entering soft tissue.[89] Along with a manifesto, Cho later sent a photograph of the hollow point bullets to NBC News with the caption "All the [shit] you've given me, right back at you with hollow points."[90][91][92]
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This is why Teacher cannot punish student too harsh. Or else unleash anger like Mr Cho:-
Virginia Tech massacre
Part of a series of articles on the
Virginia Tech massacreTimeline
Perpetrator
Media coverageVictims Jamie Bishop
Jocelyne Couture-Nowak
Kevin Granata
Liviu Librescu
G. V. LoganathanMain article: Virginia Tech massacreAround 7:15 a.m. EDT (11:15 UTC) on April 16, 2007, Cho killed two students, Emily J. Hilscher and Ryan C. "Stack" Clark, on the fourth floor of West Ambler Johnston Hall, a high-rise co-educational dormitory.[50] Investigators later determined that Cho's shoes matched a blood-stained print found in the hallway outside Hilscher's room. The shoes and bloody jeans were found in Cho's dormitory room where he had stashed them after the attack.[72]
Within the next two and a half hours, Cho returned to his room to re-arm himself and mailed a package to NBC News that contained pictures, digital video files and documents.[73] At approximately 9:45 a.m. EDT (13:45 UTC), Cho then crossed the campus to Norris Hall, a classroom building on the campus where, in a span of nine minutes, Cho shot dozens of people, killing 30 of them.[50][74] As police breached the area of the building where Cho attacked the faculty and students, Cho committed suicide in Norris 211 with a gunshot to his temple.[75] Cho's gunshot wounds destroyed his face, frustrating identification of his body for several hours.[76] The police identified Cho by matching the fingerprints on the guns used in the shootings with immigration records.[4] Before the shootings, Cho's only known connection to Norris Hall was as a student in the sociology class, which met in a classroom on the second floor of the building.[41] Although police had not stated positively at the time of the initial investigation that Cho was the perpetrator of the Norris Hall shootings and the earlier one at West Ambler Johnston Hall, forensic evidence confirmed that the same gun was used in both shooting incidents.[46]
[edit] Preparation
[edit] Weapons
Glock 19 semi-automatic pistol, one of the models of handguns used by Cho
Walther P22 semi-automatic pistol, another model of handgun used by ChoDuring February and March 2007, Cho began purchasing the weapons that he later used during the killings. On February 9, 2007, Cho purchased his first handgun, a .22 caliber Walther P22 semi-automatic pistol, from TGSCOM Inc., a federally-licensed firearms dealer based in Green Bay, Wisconsin and the operator of the website through which Cho ordered the gun.[77][78][79][80] TGSCOM Inc. shipped the Walther P22 to JND Pawnbrokers in Blacksburg, Virginia, where Cho completed the legally-required background check for the purchase transaction and took possession of the handgun.[81] Cho bought a second handgun, a Glock 19 semiautomatic pistol, on March 13, 2007 from Roanoke Firearms, a licensed gun dealer located in Roanoke, Virginia.[77][82]
Cho was able to pass both background checks and successfully complete both handgun purchases after he presented to the gun dealers his U.S. permanent residency card, his Virginia driver's permit to prove legal age and length of Virginia residence and a checkbook showing his Virginia address, in addition to waiting the required 30-day period between each gun purchase. He was successful at completing both handgun purchases, even though he had failed to disclose information on the background questionnaire about his mental health that required court-ordered outpatient treatment at a mental health facility.[83][84][85]
On March 22, 2007, Cho purchased two 10-round magazines for the Walther P22 pistol through eBay from Elk Ridge Shooting Supplies in Idaho.[86] Based on a preliminary computer forensics examination of Cho's eBay purchase records, investigators suspected that Cho may have purchased an additional 10-round magazine on March 23, 2007 from another eBay seller who sold gun accessories.[87]
Cho also bought jacketed hollow-point bullets, which result in more tissue damage than full metal jacket bullets against unarmored targets[88] by expanding upon entering soft tissue.[89] Along with a manifesto, Cho later sent a photograph of the hollow point bullets to NBC News with the caption "All the [shit] you've given me, right back at you with hollow points."[90][91][92]
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Originally posted by Htok22:
i think the naughty girls shld be caned on their bare bottom in front of the class
No need bare bottom,the school is using a very long cane,even with skirt on,will be painful enough.!
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Originally posted by veron soh:
No need bare bottom,the school is using a very long cane,even with skirt on,will be painful enough.!
will the ass bleed? -
Originally posted by Htok22:
will the ass bleed?NO.!!
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Tutors in the first place do not have any rights to hit students or do anything outside their paid duty.Teachers can be sued for just hitting a student.
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to soldierboy
i agree with wad u said. however, i dun tink my tutor did anything outside her paid duty back then. although her punishments were harsh, she meted them only when it was necessary. making my frend's bro stand at attention for an hr and half was to punish him for being lazy and it wasnt his 1st offence. it was withing her paid duty to ensure she tot us well and helped us get gd results. if punishment was needed to fulfill her paid duty, then the punishment was necessary...
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Originally posted by Snoopy81:
Its the kind of chair that we have in secondary school classrooms. When you stand on it, you can't move about.
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Talking about chair, I also ever stand up on my chair for the whole period for being naughty in class.
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woah. i don't ever remeber any of our teachers doling this kind of punishment :X
at most it was just to ask some of the unruly kids to stand outside the class...
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I was even asked to stay back after school till 7pm! Stand at the parade square. Reason? Did not ping the school badge.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
Talking about chair, I also ever stand up on my chair for the whole period for being naughty in class.
Whoa ... it must have been embarassing for you to stand on chair especially if you wear skirt! Does your leg feel tried easily because you can't move about on the chair? Haha ... -
Originally posted by Snoopy81:
Whoa ... it must have been embarassing for you to stand on chair especially if you wear skirt! Does your leg feel tried easily because you can't move about on the chair? Haha ...
kekekeke.....naughty and playful and also dont know how feel shy...thick skin...what to do? kekekekeke
