[Poll] How many of you all could truly love a transsexual?
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meaning to say that the testicles are not there or not functioning?If so what i say does not applies and this is really complicatedOriginally posted by JennTS:Well, I've got a friend who's XXY, and she's got an umm, penis, but yet she produces female hormones like any other female. The only problem is that once she cuts it off, the estrogen supply is cut off, and she's going to need to get her estrogen from either pills or injections.
By the way, hermapodites are people who are born with sexual organs which are 'in-between'. I think doctors will then try to 'guess' their gender, and alter the genitals to make it look like that gender. Most of the time, they base their judgement according to which sex the genitals look more like. Unfortunately, they tend to guess wrongly half the time. -
Wah Liew... must I type every word out? If a couple have an unexpected pregnancy, guys are less willing to abort the child than women.Originally posted by An0nym0us:I didn't know guys could go through abortion...
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I cant accept just cant imagine myself talking to a girl tats was a guy. maybe after i meet one i will change my view
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cuz women are the one to face the repercussion.Originally posted by kaister:Wah Liew... must I type every word out? If a couple have an unexpected pregnancy, guys are less willing to abort the child than women.
Understand?
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Yes I agree this is weird. Normally estrogen production comes from the ovaries, corpus luteum or the placenta. Cutting off p-nis should have no effect ba?Originally posted by Honeybunz:This is so strange. Cut off the p-nis, and the estrogen supply is also cut. -
klinefelter isn't the same as intersexed.Originally posted by kaister: -
okok, I understand, don't be angry hor.Originally posted by kaister:Wah Liew... must I type every word out? If a couple have an unexpected pregnancy, guys are less willing to abort the child than women.
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An0nym0us, you want me to commit murder is it??Originally posted by An0nym0us:klinefelter isn't the same as intersexed.
Pls learn to read. I was talking about XXY. -
if so then i see your point,but still it is not a apple for apple comparisonOriginally posted by kaister:
becos' you took my question literally.
I'm just trying to say that he's discriminating based on chromosomes and not morphology, which makes no sense at all. Understand?
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Originally posted by Aveme:meaning to say that the testicles are not there or not functioning?If so what i say does not applies and this is really complicated
Yes I agree this is weird. Normally estrogen production comes from the ovaries, corpus luteum or the placenta. Cutting off p-nis should have no effect ba?
Not the stick, the testicles, in which case the person must be AIS(Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome) which means that s/he has partially or fully defective testosterone receptors. The testosterone produced by the testes therefore does not have an effect on the body but it is aromatized to estrogen in fat cells via the enzyme aromatase. Couple that with the estrogens produced by the adrenal glands, they get their dose of estrogens. -
Just another question which sparked my interest after reading through the replies.
Is the main factor that keeps you all from marrying a transsexual, more over because she can't give birth, or because you're still can't accept it that she was once a guy. -
Sorry lah, I never go to skool before thats why I dunno how to read, don't be angry k?Originally posted by kaister:An0nym0us, you want me to commit murder is it??
Pls learn to read. I was talking about XXY.
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Well, actually guys do produce a small amount of estrogen, and gals do produce a small amount of testosterone, even though guys don't have ovaries, nor do girls have testis. I have a feeling that the sex organs are capable of producing both, but it just so happens that in my friends case it went crazy and started producing more estrogen then it really should.Originally posted by Honeybunz:This is so strange. Cut off the p-nis, and the estrogen supply is also cut. -
Originally posted by JennTS:
can't accept that she was once a guy.
[b]Just another question which sparked my interest after reading through the replies.
Is the main factor that keeps you all from marrying a transsexual, more over because she can't give birth, or because you're still can't accept it that she was once a guy.[/b]
It is comparable to maybe newater,even if newater is really clean,but if you are told it is newater that came from very unclean stuff,a normal person will feel cringy right? -
Originally posted by JennTS:
I think more likely can't accept that trans mtf were once guys bah.
[b]Just another question which sparked my interest after reading through the replies.
Is the main factor that keeps you all from marrying a transsexual, more over because she can't give birth, or because you're still can't accept it that she was once a guy.[/b]
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I suppose... Even I tend to avoid drinking newater in most instances.Originally posted by Aveme:can't accept that she was once a guy.
It is comparable to maybe newater,even if newater is really clean,but if you are told it is newater that came from very unclean stuff,a normal person will feel cringy right?
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Hmm, guess this might explain it then. I never really bothered to read up too much about it so, I'm not really too sure.Originally posted by An0nym0us:Not the stick, the testicles, in which case the person must be AIS(Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome) which means that s/he has partially or fully defective testosterone receptors. The testosterone produced by the testes therefore does not have an effect on the body but it is aromatized to estrogen in fat cells via the enzyme aromatase. Couple that with the estrogens produced by the adrenal glands, they get their dose of estrogens.
I do know that testosterone injections caused her to get sick though. Lucky girl.
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Haha don't worry, I've done the reading for you. I'm no endocrinologist but I can try...Originally posted by JennTS:Hmm, guess this might explain it then. I never really bothered to read up too much about it so, I'm not really too sure.
I do know that testosterone injections caused her to get sick though. Lucky girl.
Klinefelters are essentially males with underdeveloped male organs. With removal of her testis, she cannot produce testosterone and would need regular testosterone injection (every 2-3 weeks).
Since she don't have any female sexual organs, then she won't need oestrogen ba? It has nothing to do with androgen insensitivity syndrome btw...
I hope all the best for your friend -
I did, still do, and might forever will.
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Your vote was the first one which I counted.Originally posted by missqi:I did, still do, and might forever will. -
whats wrong with the society looking down on trans?
damn those idiots...trans are humans..they also have equal rights and pride as any others -
Well, you failed to explain how come they produce estrogen on their own. Anyway, it so happens that she's transsexual as well, so it all works out for her.Originally posted by kaister:Haha don't worry, I've done the reading for you. I'm no endocrinologist but I can try...
Klinefelters are essentially males with underdeveloped male organs. With removal of her testis, she cannot produce testosterone and would need regular testosterone injection (every 2-3 weeks).
Since she don't have any female sexual organs, then she won't need oestrogen ba? It has nothing to do with androgen insensitivity syndrome btw...
I hope all the best for your friend
She's actually doing quite well now. Even though at 172cm which is quite tall for a girl, she is very pretty and passable, plus her voice never broke either. Even one doctor who sees over a dozen transsexuals everyday honestly thought she was a real female. She also works as the spokeperson for her company, her parents are quite accepting of her, and she has a boyfriend who cares for her too. Anyway, thanks, I'll pass your message on to her. -
Wa.Originally posted by JennTS:Your vote was the first one which I counted.
You know me so well. -
Her basal oestrogen levels might have been maintained by adipocytes (fat cells) or bone marrow. Since she does not have any endometrium or other female organs to maintain, oestrogen levels not really of a concern ba? Just guessing here...Originally posted by JennTS:Well, you failed to explain how come they produce estrogen on their own. Anyway, it so happens that she's transsexual as well, so it all works out for her.
She's actually doing quite well now. Even though at 172cm which is quite tall for a girl, she is very pretty and passable, plus her voice never broke either. Even one doctor who sees over a dozen transsexuals everyday honestly thought she was a real female. She also works as the spokeperson for her company, her parents are quite accepting of her, and she has a boyfriend who cares for her too. But thanks anyway, I'll pass your message on to her.
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I guess it's due to the upbringing, culture, and belives of that person. Generally the younger generation is more accepting of transgendered people as compared to the old; western societies too, are more accepting as compared to Asian societies.Originally posted by StarPuppy:whats wrong with the society looking down on trans?
damn those idiots...trans are humans..they also have equal rights and pride as any others
Another factor would also be because most people do not know the reason why some choose to change their sex. An example would be this conversation which I often have with many guys.
Him: So, you used to be a guy?
Me: Umm...yes.
Him: You mean you chopped it off?
Me: Well, not yet, but I'm going to in a few more years.
Him: WHAT? ARE YOU CRAZY? HOW CAN YOU EVEN BARE TO CHOP IT OFF?
Me: Maybe you like it, but I for one, am completely disgusted by it, and I hate it with all my heart.
Him: My gosh, but why? It's...it's...part of who you are.
Me: *laughs* Hardly; in fact the whole time I thought it had a mind of it's own.
Him: Are you serious? How the heck can anyone hate it?
Blah, blah blah blah blah.
You all get the point right?
Most guys will never understand how someone else could possibly hate his own dick, while most girls too, will never understand how another girl could hate her boobs. Even I myself don't know how FTM transsexuals can want to have a dick. Heck, they're probably wondering at the same time why the hell I'd want to be a girl for.