[Poll] How many of you all could truly love a transsexual?
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That's the bit I dun understand. Why discriminate on basis of chromosomes when there's no morphological difference?Originally posted by JennTS:What I believe he's saying, is that he's able to accept XXs (female) who are born with a umm...penis, but is unable to accept XYs (male) who are born male (duh!), but change their sex to female.
JennTS, I would like to add my opinion to your poll. I might be able to possibly love a transsexual but marriage is out of the question cos' I would also like a kid of my own. -
You have no idea how many of us actually tried to live as guys. Plainly put, it just doesn't work, and many have actually died/attempted sucide because they were way too miserable living as the wrong sex.Originally posted by aku1b0d0:but instead of changing their physical looks, why cant they change THEMSELVES? do they want to end up hanging out at changi and sell their body to get a few bucks?
And by the way, what makes you think that ALL transsexuals HAVE to work at Changi Village? Heck, I doubt most of them want to work there either. The reason why they're there, is likely because they were kicked out of their homes at a young age by their parents, as they were forced to make a choice of their parents, or themselves, and because of that, they were unable to complete their education. With no education, where do you think they can go work?
Oh, and no, I'm not one of those street workers. I plan to get my masters after this, find a good job, and take care of my parents as soon as possible. -
Side track a little....
I recently got to know a transsexual through work. She's really nice. But what caught my and my colleagues attention was her flawless appearance. She is so feminine and well groomed. My colleagues didn't know she's a TS. But at first glance, she was really too tall for a girl. Then I looked at her hands, I can tell that her bones are not of a girl.
But then, she was so pretty siah and I feel very comfortable talking to her. Who knows, maybe if I'm born a guy, I will fall for her. hehe -
Softy, meaning, effeminate/metrosexual men?Originally posted by aku1b0d0:probably not me. no offence here but i think being a softy is much better than being a trans. same goes to ppl who change their looks with plastic surgery.
If that's what you mean, well, the two groups of people (transsexual + 'softy') are totally two different peopel entirely. -
For those who said no, care to share the reason as to why?
For those who said no because of wanting their own babies, would adoption be an option for you?
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It's different when you're raising your own or raising others'. The blood bond might not be there.Originally posted by An0nym0us:For those who said no, care to share the reason as to why?
For those who said no because of wanting their own babies, would adoption be an option for you? -
ya. For dunno what reason, most guys want to have children of their own, whilst many women don't mind adopting.Originally posted by kaister:It's different when you're raising your own or raising others'. The blood bond might not be there. -
the difference is that a girl who is born with a penis is likely to be a hermapodite (not sure of spelling),that is a person with both male and female sexual organ.Plus i dun think a girl can just be born with a penis and not a vagina.....like this is guy what cos will have testosterone from the male organ which will develop the girl into a guy?Originally posted by kaister:What's the difference? -
Originally posted by Aveme:the difference is that a girl who is born with a penis is likely to be a hermapodite (not sure of spelling),that is a person with both male and female sexual organ
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hermaphroditicOriginally posted by Aveme:the difference is that a girl who is born with a penis is likely to be a hermapodite (not sure of spelling),that is a person with both male and female sexual organ
Is there really such thing in humans? Plants maybe. Human hermaphroditic I only saw it in Southpark (Cartman's mother). -
That's a very interesting observation... I wonder why?Originally posted by Honeybunz:ya. For dunno what reason, most guys want to have children of their own, whilst many women don't mind adopting.
It's the same thing with abortion. Women are more willing to go thru abortion than guys. -
You know, people don't just change their sex for fun, people change their sex because it conflicts with their inner-self.Originally posted by aku1b0d0:but aint being who youself is also being..natural? no surgeries?
So, either you be 'yourself', and keep your body as it is but have a mind that completely doesn't match with it, which eventually causes depression and may lead to death, or keep your mind the way it is, but fix your body on the outside to match with it? -
I wld accept anyone as long as they are loyal and sincere. can the person still say 'i love you' in a loving and sincere way 20 yrs down the road still?
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And for me transexual as a lover,nope
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Yes. But the sexual organs are unlikely to be both functional.Originally posted by Honeybunz:hermaphroditic
Is there really such thing in humans? Plants maybe. Human hermaphroditic I only saw it in Southpark (Cartman's mother). -
yep there is....but as what aveme said i dun think a girl can be born with a penis, cos of the pathways leading to development of the sexual organs. a guy having a vagina is much more likely.Originally posted by Honeybunz:hermaphroditic
Is there really such thing in humans? Plants maybe. Human hermaphroditic I only saw it in Southpark (Cartman's mother). -
why theOriginally posted by kaister: ?
Techically can you say a person is a girl if she is just born with male sexual organ?If not it is a guy right and if so the relationship will be homosexual and not one of nomal male and a trans -
Well, I've got a friend who's XXY, and she's got an umm, penis, but yet she produces female hormones like any other female. The only problem is that once she cuts it off, the estrogen supply is cut off, and she's going to need to get her estrogen from either pills or injections.Originally posted by Aveme:the difference is that a girl who is born with a penis is likely to be a hermapodite (not sure of spelling),that is a person with both male and female sexual organ.Plus i dun think a girl can just be born with a penis and not a vagina.....like this is guy what cos will have testosterone from the male organ which will develop the girl into a guy?
By the way, hermapodites are people who are born with sexual organs which are 'in-between'. I think doctors will then try to 'guess' their gender, and alter the genitals to make it look like that gender. Most of the time, they base their judgement according to which sex the genitals look more like. Unfortunately, they tend to guess wrongly half the time. -
rare but yup there are cases in humanOriginally posted by Honeybunz:hermaphroditic
Is there really such thing in humans? Plants maybe. Human hermaphroditic I only saw it in Southpark (Cartman's mother). -
Originally posted by Aveme:why the ?
Techically can you say a person is a girl if she is just born with male sexual organ?If not it is a guy right and if so the relationship will be homosexual and not one of nomal male and a trans becos' you took my question literally.
I'm just trying to say that he's discriminating based on chromosomes and not morphology, which makes no sense at all. Understand?
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Legally, she'd be considered male by the law.Originally posted by Aveme:why the ?
Techically can you say a person is a girl if she is just born with male sexual organ?If not it is a guy right and if so the relationship will be homosexual and not one of nomal male and a trans
Medically, she'd be considered female as she's XX.
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This is so strange. Cut off the p-nis, and the estrogen supply is also cut.Originally posted by JennTS:Well, I've got a friend who's XXY, and she's got an umm, penis, but yet she produces female hormones like any other female. The only problem is that once she cuts it off, the estrogen supply is cut off, and she's going to need to get her estrogen from either pills or injections.
By the way, hermapodites are people who are born with sexual organs which are 'in-between'. I think doctors will then try to 'guess' their gender, and alter the genitals to make it look like that gender. Most of the time, they base their judgement according to which sex the genitals look more like. Unfortunately, they tend to guess wrongly half the time. -
Hmm...I can see absolutely no relation between a 'softy', a transsexual, and someone who has underwent plastic surgery. Care to tell me?Originally posted by aku1b0d0:probably not me. no offence here but i think being a softy is much better than being a trans. same goes to ppl who change their looks with plastic surgery. -
I didn't know guys could go through abortion...Originally posted by kaister:It's the same thing with abortion. Women are more willing to go thru abortion than guys.
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Klinefelter's syndrome.Originally posted by JennTS:Well, I've got a friend who's XXY, and she's got an umm, penis, but yet she produces female hormones like any other female. The only problem is that once she cuts it off, the estrogen supply is cut off, and she's going to need to get her estrogen from either pills or injections.
By the way, hermapodites are people who are born with sexual organs which are 'in-between'. I think doctors will then try to 'guess' their gender, and alter the genitals to make it look like that gender. Most of the time, they base their judgement according to which sex the genitals look more like. Unfortunately, they tend to guess wrongly half the time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XXY