downloading MP3 legal?
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I got this from RIAS:
Copyright laws are applicable to music on the Internet. If you download, upload, copy on a server, save on your drive, burn on a CDR, compile on your MP3 player, or distribute any music file without the consent of the copyright owner, you are guilty of copyright infringement. Aside from the illegal nature of these activities, many do not realise that these actions will destroy the very music that they love.
illegal copies
The law in Singapore provides that the making, importation, distribution or sale of such unauthorized copies is a violation of the Copyright Act. Any person found guilty of such an offence is liable to a maximum fine of $10,000 per article and/or a maximum jail term of 5 years.
Okay so downloading without paying royalties is illegal right? or is only distributing illegal?
what about sites you need to pay for? I am currently using www.mp3sugar.com, russian based site, very cheap and it pays royalties. no issues right?
If i purchase a mp3 online, i am authorise to burn it on a CD for my personal use right?
what are the penalties for downloading illegally?
Pls do not flame, i am only trying to get the facts right here. -
I think its good to go to more well know sites like Napster or something...at least they are somehow "official", you never know that maybe those sites are also illegal and they even charge a fee on you!
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RIAS is very clear.
burn on a CDR
Burn to a DVD or CD-RW so you won't be caught, since it's not CD-R.
But downloading without paying royalties is.
Punishment: Read the quote you get from RIAS. -
at usd$0.15 per track and 10% on album purchases it seems a good deal and i think the low cost is due to it being based in russia, just like buying original china cds. it seems like a genuinely good site. compared to usd$0.99 on other sites
abt making copies, if i bought the mp3 and can i burn it for personal use? am i authorise to burn such a copy?
taken from the site:
5. Copyrights.
5.1. All materials presented on this site are avaliable for the distribtution over the Internet in accordance with the license of the Russian Organization for multimedia and Digital Systems (ROMS) and intended for personal use only. Further distribution, resale or broadcasting is strictly prohibited.
5.2. The Site remunerates the fees for every downloaded File in accordance with the license agreement.
5.3. All trade marks, trade names, company names, slogans, logos, and any other copyright items, which can be seen on the Site pages in various contexts, are the property of their respective owners. You have no right to copy, distribute or use them otherwise without the prior written consent of the owners.
5.4. The Client has no right to download Files from the archive of audio recordings of MP3Sugar.com if this violates the law of his country.
5.5. The Site Administration is not controling the Client's actions therefore the Client is reponsible for any illegitimate use of the Site's materials. -
It's in accordance with Russia laws, not Singapore laws. It may or may not apply here.
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ain't it like buying a cd from russia? it isn't prohibited right, just like buying things from ebay and they ship over... just that its electronic delivery =)
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Buying is a different matter. If you intend to distribute, then it's a problem.
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=) i only intend for personal use [/quote]
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Let's say if i burn a copy of songs into a compilation album for my friends for an occasion (eg. birthday, christmas...etc.), is it considered illegal and would the police crack down on me?
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According to here, what you are doing is illegal, if the definition is right.Originally posted by shadez:Let's say if i burn a copy of songs into a compilation album for my friends for an occasion (eg. birthday, christmas...etc.), is it considered illegal and would the police crack down on me?
4. distribute - give out; "The teacher handed out the exams"
Legally, they have to arrest you. Logically, they won't, because many do so. -
Russia is not known to have strong anti-piracy laws...U pay for ur songs...but it might just go straight into the pockets of the pirates...Originally posted by cwld:what about sites you need to pay for? I am currently using www.mp3sugar.com, russian based site, very cheap and it pays royalties. no issues right?
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ok this is no joke..
my fren last week just kanna fine 10k
mp3...movie...anime...all kanna
but lucky his dad is big boss..
so 10k nth lei -
Originally posted by cwld:
WTF sia? Then what's the point for producing and selling MP3 and MP3 phones?
I got this from RIAS:
[i]Copyright laws are applicable to music on the Internet. If you download, upload, copy on a server, save on your drive, burn on a CDR, compile on your MP3 player, or distribute any music file without the consent of the copyright owner, you are guilty of copyright infringement. Aside from the illegal nature of these activities, many do not realise that these actions will destroy the very music that they love. -
to get you caughtOriginally posted by coldzero:WTF sia? Then what's the point for producing and selling MP3 and MP3 phones? -
buy their cd ...orginal or china cd then put in ur mp3 or phone lo...
or buy from tursted site...
tats what they meant n want -
I don't give a sh1t about their copyright laws. Just think, if it's illegal to compile songs on to mp3 players, then what's the use of all the big companies making mp3 players and keep on getting consumers to purchase it. The only thing they have achieved with these copyright laws is they have successfully tried to instill a sense of fear, paranoia and confusion among users.
I've downloaded so many mp3s from ordinary internet websites and nothing happens to me, I never use P2P file-sharing networks at all. I burn most of my songs onto CDs, CD-Rs too. They don't know what you do with the songs you download anyway, provided you use those popular p2p file-sharing networks which are more obvious in nature.Copyright laws are applicable to music on the Internet. If you download, upload, copy on a server, save on your drive, burn on a CDR, compile on your MP3 player, or distribute any music file without the consent of the copyright owner, you are guilty of copyright infringement. Aside from the illegal nature of these activities, many do not realise that these actions will destroy the very music that they love.
If you download, upload, copy on a server, save on your drive, burn on a CDR, compile on your MP3 player, or distribute any music file without the consent of the copyright owner, you are guilty of copyright infringement.
illegal copies
The law in Singapore provides that the making, importation, distribution or sale of such unauthorized copies is a violation of the Copyright Act. Any person found guilty of such an offence is liable to a maximum fine of $10,000 per article and/or a maximum jail term of 5 years.
LOL, as if they know every single person who has done it. It's illegal to compile on a mp3 player!? Only a bunch of idiots would write such a rule.
How many people here have mp3s stored on the devices mentioned here?
The face of the earth is being turned into one big giant prison. -
wah can save on thumb drive.
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The truth is, you can save it anywhere you want.Originally posted by kaobeikaobu:wah can save on thumb drive. 
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I bet 100% of PCs would have downloaded music from the net =/
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LOL, are they gonna confiscate all the PCs loaded with music on them?Originally posted by coldzero:I bet 100% of PCs would have downloaded music from the net =/ -
Not mine..Originally posted by coldzero:I bet 100% of PCs would have downloaded music from the net =/
I also dun own a MP3 player..
My car audio and DVD player at home can play MP3.. but never try b4..
My phone also no MP3.. all ring tone is standard from factory..
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I think, as long as you don't massive download...dun think they will catch you.
For e.g if Jay Chou's whole album comes then you download whole...maybe they will catch then. -
care to share how he/she was busted?Originally posted by SGpork:ok this is no joke..
my fren last week just kanna fine 10k
mp3...movie...anime...all kanna
but lucky his dad is big boss..
so 10k nth lei -
LOL, as if they know every single person who has done it.
Actually from a tracking standpoint it is relatively easy , from the server or ip side. They have certain programs that can track certain behaviors ie, common ports the p2p programs use or a constant steam or kbps from a single source etc etc.
Only thing is that its just not possible to catch them all. Singapore prisons will be overflowing , young and old will be all caught... the courts will be filled to bursting with just this kind of cases.
Therefore they are just catching a few here a few there and smack them with heavy penalties in order to deter the rest from downloading. -
I think they are mainly going after people who distribute them after downloading? But still if the authorities want to enforce any laws, it should be first clearly drawn out.
Okay, I know going out to a pasir malam store to buy pirated cds is wrong.
But what about downloading on the internet? Which sites are legal, which sites are not?
What can you do with the music you downloaded legally?
-> Can you burn CDs? Put it in your MP3 player?
If duplicating the song is illegal, would'nt it make all MP3 player owners, criminals if they put in copyrighted music?
What about buying original cds? Is ripping it to my computer illegal too?
What about buying CDs of foreign origin? eg China original cds
If anything is to be done to the public, guidelines should be laid down. There is too much grey area. It creates paranoia and makes people ask the qn: " SO WHAT CAN BE DONE?"
Is it true that in singapore, you can do whatever the govt doesnt say that you cannot do?