An experience of mine today..plz read
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So who paid for the meal?
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Well, if these people wants to use such unscrupulous methods to earn money, let them be cause i believe in karma.
Its like Newton's 3rd Law. FOR EVERY FORCE APPLIED, THERE WILL BE AN EQUAL AND OPPOSITE REACTION FORCE -
Are you sure the mattress work? Most likely it's some "placebo effect", where the patient recovers by psychological influences and not really the medical properties of the product...Originally posted by iwillsurvive:not all MLM products are fakes you know.
my dad bought a negative ion matress a few months back and it works in controlling my mom's asthma
but i don't know about ur water thingy -
ya lo....Very suspicious of that bed -_-"
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anyone know venture era's exact addy? i got an interview with someone who claimed he is from VE group pte ltd, and the place is robinson point!!!
lol.. pls help. The problem is he just sae the company is call VE.. is he trying to hide sth? VE= venture era? -
i m still waiting for those clones to come in n say how good MLM is.
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then keep toking abt the water products that they hav..how good isit, how great the product is...and keep saying that the water we drink not good...very dirty...cause cancer..l juz act lor...act very interested...keep saying ya...wow, oh really?
Aiyoh...this part you still want to act interested? faster say...sorry not interested, i need to go.... -
MLM rofl...
Anyway the Venture ERA company are all pretty crazy people anyway...
Look at this..
There's this guy who tried selling my parents the shitty water enhancer or something...
He goes on with the demo about how good this water is blah blah blah.,...
then he come out with the demo about putting a light bulb wired to the water and shows the light bulb glowing.
Then my dad owned him by saying :
" So What has the glowing light bulb has to do with my body ? "
And the guy i remembered was quite stunned... ROFL........
Speechless for like mins before trying to get a pathetic excuse...
Rofl...
The mangers there boot lick the staff to make them sound like they are family.
Mangers boot lick staff.
Wow..
MLM = Multi Level MotherF**kers -
here another company to be wary about " Dynamic Asia" .
get people to sell charity tickets,
say is what marketing company.
BS -
ya lo...tok to ppl liao..still wan show stupid experiment...what litmus paper test ah...water test ah..say this and that...say our water very acidic ah..will tio cancer la..then say their wad ion calcium very good...drink liao...will be very healthy...haiyo they want experiment....experiment lor..what for show us...Originally posted by Sekundes:MLM rofl...
Anyway the Venture ERA company are all pretty crazy people anyway...
Look at this..
There's this guy who tried selling my parents the shitty water enhancer or something...
He goes on with the demo about how good this water is blah blah blah.,...
then he come out with the demo about putting a light bulb wired to the water and shows the light bulb glowing.
Then my dad owned him by saying :
" So What has the glowing light bulb has to do with my body ? "
And the guy i remembered was quite stunned... ROFL........
Speechless for like mins before trying to get a pathetic excuse...
Rofl...
The mangers there boot lick the staff to make them sound like they are family.
Mangers boot lick staff.
Wow..
MLM = Multi Level MotherF**kers
l tink these ppl shld be directed to circus if they like to "perform" oso... -
I can almost imagine what the next mlm clone will come in to say. Things like mlm is not all bad, how people should not just look at how much money they are making, and it's all about choosing the right company. It seems like every pro mlmers or mlm clones say the same thing!
It's all a bunch of bull that we dont need. It's not even practical at all the things they say above. It's more about trying to be politically correct and not providing a geniune insight or solution to a problem. The best is stay away from mlm, stay away from something you have very little idea or knowledge about, unless you dont mind paying 'school fees' to learn what it is all about. Some people dont like to learn from the lessons of others, but rather experience it themselves, so by all means go ahead! -
After l expose out the VENTURE ERA issue...l receive frenster messages from some ppl..and when l check their profile ..they are from VENTURE ERA...l tink they are getting to noe about this thread..no wonder mono say...clones will be coming...Originally posted by monoslayer:i m still waiting for those clones to come in n say how good MLM is.
But sumhow l am greatly displeased with the way they do things...exaggerate is okie..but the way they try force u...bluff u by boot licking...and all the pretence..and what say..cannot go tell ppl..keep to urself..what is this about..If they claim abt how good and pro they are....y scare l go tell ppl ne? siao lah..they all -
A friend in the MLM industry said this:
VE is Venture Era. Founded by previous senior members of Astral Mag (Now known as Enyouth), who left because of some disagreement with Astralmag's boss raymond.
They had almost the same product 1-2 years back as Enyouth (magnetic mattress, bracklet, etc). Even their sales presentation kit is the same. Their marketing plan is also similar.
Previous office is at tanjong pager. Both companies sell the flagship product (magnetic mattress) at $1500+. They get their products from a manufacturer call JapanLife. The exact same product can be gotton overseas for less then US 200.
Their methods of recruitment are similar.
1, meet you for dinner.
2, talk about a collegue who's young and earning big bucks and driving big car.
3, say their company near where you're having dinner, so why not go and have a look.
4, make you listen to their marketing plan, product etc.
They have ways to solve whatever rejection you give. I mean really whatever! For the daredevils, you can try challenge them.
And their teachings and culture may not be very correct according to business ethics. Generally its very sales oriented. Culture is something like "Do whatever it takes to close the sale."
The senior people are so good that they can re-arrange whatever words/rejection to suit their needs.
Example:
Client "Hey you bluff me come down for dinner, actually want me to listen to your marketing plan/product/comapny!"
MLMer "Why do you think so? If you meet a friend for movie, then after a movie your friend suggests going to dinner, you wun say your friend bluff you to dinner right? So now we meet for dinner, then I suggest we go to my company to take a look since its just round the corner, is this bluffing?"
Think alot of MLM companies uses this method to recruit. Longfar, enyouth, certain agencies in nuskin, amway, coslab, dw, asayo, etc.
And they wun tell you more at then end of everything if you have any questions. They'll just ask you to sign/comeback/pay money/etc.
If you are ok with this way/company culture/teachings/ of doing business, then please go ahead. -
never never listen to these bull shit....30k he thinks who he is.....
I have a friend, who is doing the similar job, honest as friends we all know he is having "HIGH FEVER", because his boss told him that he will drive a 360 when he turns his 30...much better then benz...
But guess what he is actually selling-------matresses, and it costs abt 3k, there is no differ. from the normal ones.
Even though, he still think he can drive 360, SOON -
l feel like going to report this company to the cc or the police siah..expose their dirty acts and scams!!!!!!
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that's rubbish to meOriginally posted by iwillsurvive:not all MLM products are fakes you know.
my dad bought a negative ion matress a few months back and it works in controlling my mom's asthma
but i don't know about ur water thingy
what a magnetic bed/mattress actually does is only to regulate the blood, makes the body much hotter due to faster blood circulation only.
it's as simple as that, as for the negative ions, everyone is taking in positive and negative ions too
if anyone here wants to have free negative ions, just walk and mediate on ground earth the soil, with a peaceful mind, you'll get lots of it for FREE OF CHARGE.
what a better way to relax your body and it comes free.
too much blood circulation can also have adverse effect, i forgot the adverse effects already, but do take note of your mom's health, if not her conditon will go bad (touch wood) if not taken into proper care and just depend on the mattress.
this tatic is playing with mind games only la.
do more research first la
anyway, Venture Era, is a multi-level-marketing company. in short is MLM the forbbiden word in the eyes of many.
their idea is to do compulsary sales- idea of theirs is adapted from Donald Trump - If you can't do sales, then you are not suitable to do business, which is untrue. as for the plan, when i sleep and wake up than i continue. it's kind of late now.
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Tamade!! I just got conned into going to Enyouth today.. I was looking for a job then this guy say got job go for interview at his Enyouth office!!! Once i stepped in i knew something was fishy...Originally posted by sonic_16:A friend in the MLM industry said this:
VE is Venture Era. Founded by previous senior members of Astral Mag (Now known as Enyouth), who left because of some disagreement with Astralmag's boss raymond.
They had almost the same product 1-2 years back as Enyouth (magnetic mattress, bracklet, etc). Even their sales presentation kit is the same. Their marketing plan is also similar.
Previous office is at tanjong pager. Both companies sell the flagship product (magnetic mattress) at $1500+. They get their products from a manufacturer call JapanLife. The exact same product can be gotton overseas for less then US 200.
Their methods of recruitment are similar.
1, meet you for dinner.
2, talk about a collegue who's young and earning big bucks and driving big car.
3, say their company near where you're having dinner, so why not go and have a look.
4, make you listen to their marketing plan, product etc.
They have ways to solve whatever rejection you give. I mean really whatever! For the daredevils, you can try challenge them.
And their teachings and culture may not be very correct according to business ethics. Generally its very sales oriented. Culture is something like "Do whatever it takes to close the sale."
The senior people are so good that they can re-arrange whatever words/rejection to suit their needs.
Example:
Client "Hey you bluff me come down for dinner, actually want me to listen to your marketing plan/product/comapny!"
MLMer "Why do you think so? If you meet a friend for movie, then after a movie your friend suggests going to dinner, you wun say your friend bluff you to dinner right? So now we meet for dinner, then I suggest we go to my company to take a look since its just round the corner, is this bluffing?"
Think alot of MLM companies uses this method to recruit. Longfar, enyouth, certain agencies in nuskin, amway, coslab, dw, asayo, etc.
And they wun tell you more at then end of everything if you have any questions. They'll just ask you to sign/comeback/pay money/etc.
If you are ok with this way/company culture/teachings/ of doing business, then please go ahead.
I didnt know Enyouth was previously Astralmag.. If i know i wouldnt have gone already!!! should have posted this earlier!! -
knn..i still rmb last nov when i was lookin for job at kelly service at tanjong pagar...after tat my frenz and i saw an ad in the straits times sayin theres a job vacancy near there...sohx we decided to try our luck...i still rmb the company name ar.... DW ...nb sell simi magnetic pillow/comforter/bracelet....
at 1st at there brag abt their staff earning few k per month.. tem explain the product.. said until mi and my frenz really believe it...tats how we kana conned to work for tem for 1 month(i admit we r stupid tat time)
during tat month kip recruiting ppl and tried to sell the products to frenz/relatives... until tey all scared of mi liao....(tis kind of sales really hurts the relationship) tem ar..finally sell 1 bracelet which cost 100+ or 300+..supposed to get abit $$ for the commision de... tem tey kip drag drag drag... until now oso haben pay...
sry ar...abit too long liao...lol... but i really piss off abt tis MLM...fk thier grands~ -
Haha.. I kena before lo. Was damn angry then.
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Yes VE = Venture EraOriginally posted by emre_belozoglu:anyone know venture era's exact addy? i got an interview with someone who claimed he is from VE group pte ltd, and the place is robinson point!!!
lol.. pls help. The problem is he just sae the company is call VE.. is he trying to hide sth? VE= venture era? -
Alot of people are victims of this scam. I was at AstralMag in 1999 i guess.. cause this gal intro me there.. lucky i clever to siam.. then few months back.. another good friend ask me for dinner and go to Enyouth at near boat quay there. I go up.. now got more product but still selling magnetic mattresses.. wah liao.. sian 1/2 liao. Go up listen to them.. give my friend face ma.. then i told her i was from Astralmag last time.. then she know she cannot con me already. I act like i'm interested then never contact her till now.
Doing sales promoter is not like this.. approaching family and friends.. normally should approach companies to sell products.. wait family and friends siam u then u got no more friends.
This is to let everybody know about the lousiness of MLM. Dont get con. Get a proper job. If u cant sell anything u will also end up pennilless. -
hiaz this people ar.. really no hope
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DON'T be fooled by them confirm MLM Y is he driving merc because you join he drive ... so if you want to drive you must also do the same thing he do ...
Forget your friend lah he is trying to get back his share of the money -
cannot help it but will just lose all my money.
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