Singapore to hang Nigerian trafficker, rejects new appeal.
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What's the pt of hanging someone?
So that means those that cheated ppl's livelihood like the CAO saga should be hanged since they are worst, inflicted torture -
hang hang hang....keep the capital punishment
to hell with the crazy europeans....die die die
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Open your eyes
If there is a God,we have already been forsaken
Capital punishment is good for scums like these -
is it right to hang the nigerian? such a tough question.
life is full of complex unanswerable questions. -
ur must think of consequences.
if singapore so slack
"aiya ok la give u chance go back nigeria"
other ppl will seize the opportunity and do the same
more ppl will traffick drugs
and not all the time do these ppl get caught
so more heroin in sg
this is the best deterrence against drug trafficking
and its better for one life lost than numerous deaths due to overdoses and broken families
this guy should have been well aware of the consequences
he is jeopardising singapore's families and himself by doing such a stupid thing -
as much as i do not like capital punishment, the law MUST be upheld no matter foreigner or citizen...
so, if a singaporean goes to nigeria and murders someone, we get off because we're not nigerian?
not a chance right? -
Actually there is another lot of Australians who thank Singapore for carrying out the permanent solution. I know most of my australian colleagues supported the hanging.Originally posted by Ignatiaus:Remember last year when Singapore hung that Vietnam born Aussie guy who trafficked drugs also?
Remember how WE got called barbarians by the aussies?
History will repeat itself -
Originally posted by Allen.Iverson:ur must think of consequences.
if singapore so slack
"aiya ok la give u chance go back nigeria"
other ppl will seize the opportunity and do the same
more ppl will traffick drugs
and not all the time do these ppl get caught
so more heroin in sg
No one is saying we let him get away scott free. We can use other forms of deterance.. No one in this world has the right to take away another persons, regardless of whether it is legal or not.Originally posted by the Bear:as much as i do not like capital punishment, the law MUST be upheld no matter foreigner or citizen...
so, if a singaporean goes to nigeria and murders someone, we get off because we're not nigerian?
not a chance right?
It is time to mend our laws. Using violence to curb violence is not the way to go.
If a person is dangerous, we can always lock him away for the safety of others.
Wont we be as good as murders if we kill someone just like that?
Who are we to decide if someone deserves to live or die?
To hell with the officials who want to take on godly roles. they cant even give an inanimate object life, yet they dare to remove life from an another being. -
like i said, i don't like it...
but hey.. if locals get executed for that crime, why should we give him better treatment just because he is nigerian..
it is a different topic altogether..
already, i was pissed off when that american punk kid got a few strokes less just because he was american...
if it was a citizen going to hang, would amnesty even care? -
the resources that enable him to live in jail will save another person's life somewhere else. i say hang.Originally posted by OO_OO_OO:No one is saying we let him get away scott free. We can use other forms of deterance.. No one in this world has the right to take away another persons, regardless of whether it is legal or not.
It is time to mend our laws. Using violence to curb violence is not the way to go.
If a person is dangerous, we can always lock him away for the safety of others.
Wont we be as good as murders if we kill someone just like that?
Who are we to decide if someone deserves to live or die?
To hell with the officials who want to take on godly roles. they cant even give an inanimate object life, yet they dare to remove life from an another being. -
ahh. that sounds so perfect isnt it?Originally posted by Ito_^:the resources that enable him to live in jail will save another person's life somewhere else. i say hang.
but it doesnt happen. not in this world at least.
if its a simple, direct situation, where i had to choose between saving an innocent persons life to letting a criminal live, then i would follow your stand.
otherwise, no. We shouldnt play god. -
Simple logic dictates if one does not wishes to be hangedOriginally posted by OO_OO_OO:DOWN WITH CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!!
What good does hanging do? You kill one of god's creation, causes misery to too many people who know the guy and dont give him a chance to repent.
Sure, there's something called deterance. But if hanging is the only form of deterance which we can think of, then i feel very sorry for our judicary. Maybe it even needs to be replaced if thats the case.
Furthermore, no one got hurt or harmed in the process, so what right do we have to take away his life?
an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
an eye for nothing makes us a fucked up country.
One should not dabble in recreational drugs!
Drugs do get people hurt and harmed in the process.
Stage One: Drug lords force poor 3rd world nation people to farm and harvest the ingredients to make the drugs.
Stage Two: Drug gets manufactured by the drug lords and then prey on lesser lackeys to get the drugs on the street.
Stage Three: Drugs sold on the street to addicts and would-be addicts
Stage Four: Addicts develop psychosis & dementia over long periods of abuse
Stage Five: Addicts rejects friends and family interventions due to uncontrollable withdrawal symptoms if substance abuse is stopped
Final Stage: Addict dies from overdose due to taking larger doses to satisfy unending substance needs.
This is what happens when you don't have hangings in Singapore
So even if state executions are inhumane to you...
How do you weigh that against addicts who die everyday?
Do you stop the traffickers? Let them spread poison making more die over time?
You do the math
If this is a F**ked up country like you say, why not get up and do something about it instead of being some internet tough guy? -
in the first place, not everybody believes in god.Originally posted by OO_OO_OO:ahh. that sounds so perfect isnt it?
but it doesnt happen. not in this world at least.
if its a simple, direct situation, where i had to choose between saving an innocent persons life to letting a criminal live, then i would follow your stand.
otherwise, no. We shouldnt play god. -
Originally posted by Ignatiaus:
We can always employ other forms of deterance..
Simple logic dictates if one does not wishes to be hanged
One should not dabble in recreational drugs!
Drugs do get people hurt and harmed in the process.
[b]Stage One: Drug lords force poor 3rd world nation people to farm and harvest the ingredients to make the drugs.
Stage Two: Drug gets manufactured by the drug lords and then prey on lesser lackeys to get the drugs on the street.
Stage Three: Drugs sold on the street to addicts and would-be addicts
Stage Four: Addicts develop psychosis & dementia over long periods of abuse
Stage Five: Addicts rejects friends and family interventions due to uncontrollable withdrawal symptoms if substance abuse is stopped
Final Stage: Addict dies from overdose due to taking larger doses to satisfy unending substance needs.
This is what happens when you don't have hangings in Singapore
So even if state executions are inhumane to you...
How do you weigh that against addicts who die everyday?
Do you stop the traffickers? Let them spread poison making more die over time?
You do the math
If this is a F**ked up country like you say, why not get up and do something about it instead of being some internet tough guy?
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And i really wish i could stop this death penalty crap. But will the govt listen to me? no way.
the only way out is to become the minister of home affairs or have the other countries pressurise us.
the latter has a greater chance of success. -
If you say no to ExecutionsOriginally posted by OO_OO_OO:We can always employ other forms of deterance..
And i really wish i could stop this death penalty crap. But will the govt listen to me? no way.
the only way out is to become the minister of home affairs or have the other countries pressurise us.
the latter has a greater chance of success.
Then what alternative can you offer? Just saying "NO TO HANGINGS" isn't helping at all.
You have to come up with a viable alternative or else this will remain the norm
I, However even though find hangings to be a necessary evil.
"The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock
Basically
No Drugs = No Hangings... Duh?
Let Robocop tell you something about drugs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWpOas4qr7E
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqtY88BUi0M -
Originally posted by Ignatiaus:
Drug lords, traffickers and addicts all make a conscious choice for their actions - you can't pin the blame of the predicament suffered by the addicts solely on the drug lords and traffickers, can you? If your argument made sense, could I then hold an automobile manufacturer responsible if a reckless driver killed a loved one of mine on the road?
Simple logic dictates if one does not wishes to be hanged
One should not dabble in recreational drugs!
Drugs do get people hurt and harmed in the process.
[b]Stage One: Drug lords force poor 3rd world nation people to farm and harvest the ingredients to make the drugs.
Stage Two: Drug gets manufactured by the drug lords and then prey on lesser lackeys to get the drugs on the street.
Stage Three: Drugs sold on the street to addicts and would-be addicts
Stage Four: Addicts develop psychosis & dementia over long periods of abuse
Stage Five: Addicts rejects friends and family interventions due to uncontrollable withdrawal symptoms if substance abuse is stopped
Final Stage: Addict dies from overdose due to taking larger doses to satisfy unending substance needs.
This is what happens when you don't have hangings in Singapore
So even if state executions are inhumane to you...
How do you weigh that against addicts who die everyday?
Do you stop the traffickers? Let them spread poison making more die over time?
You do the math
If this is a F**ked up country like you say, why not get up and do something about it instead of being some internet tough guy?
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Look, terrorists, mafia, narco traffickers constitute the lesser evil of organised criminals compared with rogue governments who have the backing of the constitution for their ill-intended activities and for which they do not(in most cases) need to answer to anyone...
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again, i say.. other types of deterrance is another discussion altogether...
if you are in a country, you abide by the laws of that country... -
Cars & Drugs are on the opposite ends of the spectrum so you can't compare them thus making the argument mootOriginally posted by walesa:If your argument made sense, could I then hold an automobile manufacturer responsible if a reckless driver killed a loved one of mine on the road?
Do you introduce cars to a person? No as usually a person will WANT to get a car.
If he sucks at driving. Thats his fault so the sole problem lies with him and not the car manufacturer.
So in that respect people do not actively want to get drugs. Anyone who does is a real loser and fails at life. -
Hangings For Drugs Traffickers FTW!!!
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Didn't see you object to the hanging Sadam Hussein...another hypocrite emerging?Originally posted by OO_OO_OO:DOWN WITH CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!!
What good does hanging do? You kill one of god's creation, causes misery to too many people who know the guy and dont give him a chance to repent.
Sure, there's something called deterance. But if hanging is the only form of deterance which we can think of, then i feel very sorry for our judicary. Maybe it even needs to be replaced if thats the case.
Furthermore, no one got hurt or harmed in the process, so what right do we have to take away his life?
an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
an eye for nothing makes us a fucked up country.
The laws of Singapore are clear. Death penalty for drug traffickers...if you dare to test our law, you pay the consequences. -
My Sg govt oint of view.. This scene must not be tolerated.. We did the right thing.. Even SG citizen committed a crime in overseas will be punish according the the law... Our govt never step back or help when regardless of foreigner or local committed a crime
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life-term sentence.
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YES HANG.
becoz the gahmen didnt get a share so HANG.
unless they split us 70% IF NOT HANG!
gahmen HUAT EH!
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What is more fair... to execute the man, or do as we do in Europe (being against capital punishment) keep him locked up 23 hrs a day in solitary confinement, filled with tranquilsers. Well, that is a difficult one eh? Yes, the warning that you hang for drugs is a deterrent, but then, don't assume these people share your same logic and values.
And I really wish you would not come out with crude comments about his race, it just makes you sound brutal; you certainly do not win yourselves, your country-people, sympathy. He can't help where he was born. -
Well one idea is to make him swallow all the pills he has smuggled in a go. If he survives without medical intervention, release him .