BBC: Arctic Ice could Disappear in 2040.
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Expect worse haze and higher temperature year after year, and more rain and floods too.
Those graphs are fake and discredited.
They grew and exported wine from Yorkshire in the 1500's, not since. Temperatures were warmer then. Where does that show on your graph/s? What caused this, before the advent of industry, were the horses too windy perhaps?
Greenland was named Greenland a thousand+ years ago because it was green. Now and since it is covered in ice. -
"Living in Denial"? "Convenient Truth"???Originally posted by Genie8:Expect worse haze and higher temperature year after year, and more rain and floods too.
Those graphs are fake and discredited.
They grew and exported wine from Yorkshire in the 1500's, not since. Temperatures were warmer then. Where does that show on your graph/s? What caused this, before the advent of industry, were the horses too windy perhaps?
Greenland was named Greenland a thousand+ years ago because it was green. Now and since it is covered in ice.
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i wanna liveeeeeeee
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"Living in Denial"? "Convenient Truth"???
Check the urls of the graphs : BBC and Nasa
Who is living in denial though? A year ago no one talked about global warming. Now it is compulsory to talk about it the whole time (lol).
It is a convenient lie through which to control and tax people.
p.s. Neither the BBC or NASA have sattelite pix of England or Greenland 500-1000 years ago
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pls la.Originally posted by Genie8:"Living in Denial"? "Convenient Truth"???
Check the urls of the graphs : BBC and Nasa
Who is living in denial though? A year ago no one talked about global warming. Now it is compulsory to talk about it the whole time (lol).
It is a convenient lie through which to control and tax people.
p.s. Neither the BBC or NASA have sattelite pix of England or Greenland 500-1000 years ago
you think these reputated scientists never consider earth's natural climatic changes before coming to such conclusion??
(that recent changes are caused by human)
Im no expert. just providing infos here.
If u don't wish to believe these facts or continue finding endless excuses and reasonings, thats your problem.
The Inconvenient Truth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inconvenient_Truth
Its not that no one talks about it.
A year ago no one talked about global warming. Now it is compulsory to talk about it the whole time (lol).
Its just that people conveniently choose what they want to hear/see/believe.
Scientist had already warned of floods in various regions of the world,
on a 1-degree global temparature change.
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Sorry I don't believe it.
In the 1970s at school they scared us witless by teaching us that we would die in the impending ice age.
This was every bit as 'real' as global warming is now. They were and are both lies. In ten years everyone will have forgotten about global warming.
And no end of American politicans, slick graphs (erasing out the inconvenient data), and Hollywood films will convince me otherwise.
Sorry, but I've seen all this before. -
Fvck la.. GOD will save us.
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last time i pri/sec sch textbook got write about global warming already. its not a new topic.Originally posted by Genie8:Sorry I don't believe it.
In the 1970s at school they scared us witless by teaching us that we would die in the impending ice age.
This was every bit as 'real' as global warming is now. They were and are both lies. In ten years everyone will have forgotten about global warming.
And no end of American politicans, slick graphs (erasing out the inconvenient data), and Hollywood films will convince me otherwise.
Sorry, but I've seen all this before. -
we'll either go down in an ice age, or go down in global warming, or die a few billion years later when the sun (which is expanding) will burn the earth like a little marshmellow ball put in the fire of a bbq pit.
take any of the 3 ways. we still die. why do we need to figure out how?
live the short lives we have and get over it. quit worrying.
N.B. the sun expanding thing is a fact. it's a natural life cycle of a star. any star. just like how humans grow from babies to old pple to die. our sun will expand, burn mercury and venus and roast the Earth before collapsing and dying.
the exact timeline is available on major space information websites. -
better die later den now right?Originally posted by Tayysj:we'll either go down in an ice age, or go down in global warming, or die a few billion years later when the sun (which is expanding) will burn the earth like a little marshmellow ball put in the fire of a bbq pit.
take any of the 3 ways. we still die. why do we need to figure out how?
live the short lives we have and get over it. quit worrying.
N.B. the sun expanding thing is a fact. it's a natural life cycle of a star. any star. just like how humans grow from babies to old pple to die. our sun will expand, burn mercury and venus and roast the Earth before collapsing and dying.
the exact timeline is available on major space information websites.
no need worry about urself oso muz consider ur children and their children, ur family's children, niece, nephew's children, etc.
when tsunami ripped countries into pieces, u try go tell the remaining survivors "no need worry! all die never mind! sooner or later one!" lor. -
we'll either go down in an ice age, or go down in global warming, or die a few billion years later when the sun (which is expanding) will burn the earth like a little marshmellow ball put in the fire of a bbq pit.
And can we have one of those molten chocolate fountains to dip them in please? -
Don't u realise that the effects of global warming can affect ur life significantly. Just imagine the flood of Johor hitting Singapore, a lot of house including urs gets flooded? For Singapore the magnitude of such a problem can be many times greater because the population concentration is very high.Originally posted by Tayysj:we'll either go down in an ice age, or go down in global warming, or die a few billion years later when the sun (which is expanding) will burn the earth like a little marshmellow ball put in the fire of a bbq pit.
take any of the 3 ways. we still die. why do we need to figure out how?
live the short lives we have and get over it. quit worrying.
N.B. the sun expanding thing is a fact. it's a natural life cycle of a star. any star. just like how humans grow from babies to old pple to die. our sun will expand, burn mercury and venus and roast the Earth before collapsing and dying.
the exact timeline is available on major space information websites.
Imagine u have to rebuild ur home from scratch and what worst such flood can easily recur on a periodic basis and come back again to hit on the same place??!! -
I dun get u how u find it difficult to believe?? You say u read those articles, etc. but u dun believe it. So you are saying all the scientist in the world are either corrupted or incompetent. Even a renowned crippled genius like Stephen Hawking is possibly incompetent and corrupted and is stupid enough to believe that global warming is the current greatest threat to humanity? Because he was one of the scientist who agreed on the movement of the clock by two minutes towards doomsday.Originally posted by Genie8:Sorry I don't believe it.
In the 1970s at school they scared us witless by teaching us that we would die in the impending ice age.
This was every bit as 'real' as global warming is now. They were and are both lies. In ten years everyone will have forgotten about global warming.
And no end of American politicans, slick graphs (erasing out the inconvenient data), and Hollywood films will convince me otherwise.
Sorry, but I've seen all this before.
What they are writing is not real and not happening when news around the world reports unprecedented disasters??
I really think u are so wrong about human behaviour and how u perceive things. -
hmm.Originally posted by Genie8:Sorry I don't believe it.
In the 1970s at school they scared us witless by teaching us that we would die in the impending ice age.
This was every bit as 'real' as global warming is now. They were and are both lies. In ten years everyone will have forgotten about global warming.
And no end of American politicans, slick graphs (erasing out the inconvenient data), and Hollywood films will convince me otherwise.
Sorry, but I've seen all this before.
i think u got a serious problem.
either u dun understand english or u dun understand logic.
or u dun even bother to understand anything else.
wait, are u one of those who think that trans fat is good
and that the US government planned 911???
and u think nuclear science is all fiction??
betw, most of these didn't come from US.
infact, the bush admin had been bombarded for thinking like u. -
more videos on tv (msn/nbc):
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/default.cdnx/id/16725568/displaymode/1157
(link from msn: http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=2abc2b5d-f763-4681-b1cc-af75c78a9ae9)
Nasa scientist says Politicians Edit Global Warming Research Data:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/17/60minutes/main1415985.shtml
other than polar bear in endangered status,
some bears (not polar) were also found to stop its hibernation cycle.
coral reefs are almost all gone
(due to acidicity levels at near highest in millions of years, caused by CO2)
first hurricane in recorded history near brazil.
last time in sch.....all theory.
now...practical
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documentary focus on abc news:
part1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Zk4-JPCdg
part2:
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no wonder the recent floods...
its no use 1 la, the powers of the world(US, china), u tink dey will do sumthin meh?
all dey can tink of is wealth, power.
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Even Channel Newsasia and TODAY is mentioning about the climate...
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2007 could be hottest year ever
By Sheralyn Tay, TODAY | Posted: 22 January 2007 1527 hrs
Just when you think the freakish weather has rained itself out, after a hot and sunny weekend, it's time to bring out the raincoats again - with the weatherman predicting thunderstorms for the first part of the week.
Have the skies gone mad? No, it's just a change in the air pressure over Siberia which - according to Associate Professor Dr David Higgitt from the National University of Singapore - "is driving surges of particularly violent rainstorms" towards Singapore.
The culprit? It's a toss up between global warming and the El Nino effect - the exact cause is too complicated to pinpoint, said Prof Higgett. But what is certain is, both phenomena will be shaping the world's weather in the year ahead, for better or - mostly - for worse.
While 2006 was the world's sixth warmest year on record, according to Climate Change Organisation director of Alliances and Operations, Mr Dan Lai, 2007 could be the worst yet.
"British climate scientists have said that the resurgent El Nino climate trend, combined with higher levels of greenhouse gases, could touch off a fresh round of ecological disasters and make 2007 the world's hottest year on record," Mr Lai said.
For Singaporeans, it means that when the wet weather finally clears, it could get very hot and very dry. Think 1997, the island's hottest year on record, when an extended dry bout caused water stocks to fall to two-thirds of total reservoir capacity.
Elsewhere, the new year has already seen ice-storms in California following a snow-less Christmas in New York, Australia's worst drought ever, and floods in Britain.
Yesterday, Britons learnt from naturalist Sir David Attenborough that their country's murderous heatwaves of 2003 would constitute a normal summer by 2050, and might even seem cool by 2080 - according to the findings of the most detailed climate projection ever undertaken.
This came just days after scientist Professor Stephen Hawking described climate change as a greater threat to the planet than terrorism, and scientists pushed the hand of the Doomsday Clock - a symbol of the risk of atomic cataclysm and of climate change - closer to midnight.
"We are learning how human activities and technologies are affecting climate systems in ways that may forever change life on Earth," said Prof Hawking.
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's report, slated for release on Feb 2, is likely to underscore this fact.
According to the New York Times, leaked drafts state that it is "more than 90 per cent likely" that global warming has been driven by the build-up of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases - a truism that has never been conclusively proven.
The economic impact of such climate change could be enormous - beside which the estimated US$50-million losses for Singapore from last year's haze would seem a pittance.
In October, former World Bank chief economist Nicholas Stern called for one per cent of global GDP to be spent immediately on tackling climate change - predicting that the failure to do so could shrink the world economy by 20 per cent by 2050.
Already, the economic backlash is sinking in with insurance companies in the US, which are - according to the latest issue of Newsweek --- doubling premiums, refusing to take new policies or even discontinuing existing ones for customers along the Eastern seaboard, including New York City. The reason? The increase in "extreme weather events" that are racking up huge property damages.
In the meantime, Singapore is gearing up just to deal with the next few months in the grip of El Nino, which is expected to dissipate by June. Given the big strides made in the last 10 years towards self-sufficiency in water resources, a shortage like 1997's is unlikely should the dry spell catch hold.
But if the heavy rains unexpectedly drag on instead, agencies told TODAY they are prepared. The Land Transport Authority, for example, will pay greater attention to infrastructure such as slopes. Measures in flood-prone areas are already underway by the Public Utilities Board, such as $12.8m project to enlarge the canal at Tanglin Halt.
Yet even if climatic anomalies do not hit Singapore directly, Mr Lai warned: "One must not forget the potential of indirect effect of climate change to Singapore -- especially when this tiny red dot depends on the resources of many countries around the world." - TODAY/st -
Japan marine park captures rare shark on film
could this be due to the melting of southpole...the warm current thaw the ice and bring the animal back to life
‘Living fossil’ species has changed little since prehistoric times
TOKYO - A species of shark rarely seen alive because its natural habitat is 2,000 feet or more under the sea was captured on film by staff at a Japanese marine park this week.
The Awashima Marine Park in Shizuoka, south of Tokyo, was alerted by a fisherman at a nearby port on Sunday that he had spotted an odd-looking eel-like creature with a mouthful of needle-sharp teeth.
Marine park staff caught the 5-foot long creature, which they identified as a female frilled shark, sometimes referred to as a “living fossil” because it is a primitive species that has changed little since prehistoric times.
The shark appeared to be in poor condition when park staff moved it to a seawater pool where they filmed it swimming and opening its jaws.
“We believe moving pictures of a live specimen are extremely rare,” said an official at the park. “They live between 600 and 1,000 meters under the water, which is deeper than humans can go.”
“We think it may have come close to the surface because it was sick, or else it was weakened because it was in shallow waters,” the official said.
The shark died a few hours after being caught.
Frilled sharks, which feed on other sharks and sea creatures, are sometimes caught in the nets of trawlers but are rarely seen alive. -
reading too much into it?Originally posted by Mospeada:could this be due to the melting of southpole...the warm current thaw the ice and bring the animal back to life
afterall it could just be some freak fish getting lost or cuaght in weird currents etc. -
but it is possible for a frozen frog to the thawed and still alive....Originally posted by hisoka:reading too much into it?
afterall it could just be some freak fish getting lost or cuaght in weird currents etc.
frog is a reptile, dinosaurs were reptile..so let say, if some of them were frozen under those ice in the south pole...the gradual melting of the ice might be able to bring those back to life.... -
Hello Apples, I mean you no disrespect and welcome the debate.Originally posted by apples:I dun get u how u find it difficult to believe?? You say u read those articles, etc. but u dun believe it. So you are saying all the scientist in the world are either corrupted or incompetent. Even a renowned crippled genius like Stephen Hawking is possibly incompetent and corrupted and is stupid enough to believe that global warming is the current greatest threat to humanity? Because he was one of the scientist who agreed on the movement of the clock by two minutes towards doomsday.
What they are writing is not real and not happening when news around the world reports unprecedented disasters??
I really think u are so wrong about human behaviour and how u perceive things.
What I'm saying is that the climate was warmer in the middle ages. But that climate change advocates have erased this from their graphs and arguments.
I also believe that 'climate change' is a way for the people, the public servants we elect to run our services (some might suggest they believe they rule over us), to force us to feel guilty about how we lead our lives, and tax us. In Europe thay call them 'sin taxes'. Tax cigarettes a lot because they are bad as we all know, and raise lots of tax (but don't ban them). Tax alcohol a lot because that is bad (but don't ban it). Of course we all feel so guilty we amost yearn to pay these taxes.
Tax cars a lots, and anything else that be vaguely called non-green, or anything else that might cause global warming. That Japanese shark... it is global warming I tell you... obvious isn't it! lol
Stephen Hawking, all those scientists, the rest... all have careers, egos, mortgages, vanities. Each of them want more of our money to build their empires. I just regret that the people so easily flock to help them do so. -
don't be an idiot. these earth disaster is real one man. if you think is some international or government conspiracy to cheat our money, then you are wrong.
i can say that we are unlucky in some sense to be at a period where the global climate is changing to towards a cycle that is hazardous to human life.
despite the interconnectedness of world in terms of information. we humans are still plagued with difference, problems and violence on top of this natural disaster thing.
it is a race against time for us humans to solve all these problematic puzzles
which problems to priortise? each country has to take care of its own backside but also weigh against global problem. so many problems, so little time. in fact at every level of self, family, friends, community, country, continent and world
there need to be competition and cooperation depending on context.
how well can we ride out the various problems, whether it is changes in climate or terrorism will depend on how fast can we churn out solution -
Yes yes it is a crisis.
And only you and your sort can save us 'idiots'.
I've heard it all before. -
i think imay have the chance to save the world though because i am quiet a intelligent person. probably i will join some already existing intelligence think tank who is in charge of doing nothing but churning ideas and creative ways of seeing the problems we have in the world.
then through creative process comes creative solutions to solve any problems. hopefully, then i can save the world by being a triggering factor.
anyone wants to join my think tank committee? perhaps we can start off staying in contact in msn. this think tank is focus on few grounding principles. first, we must be ideapreneur, only a few people cannot do much. the most we can do is to come off with good ideas and pass them to bigger organisation. the second thing we do will mainly be learning new knowledge in any sources so that we can do innovation.
please message me if you want to be this type of ideapreneur on solving all kinds of problems in the world, big or small, natural disaster or terrorism. dun worry, we can just try it out and you choose to have sex rather than discussing these things if you want to anytime.