A good motivation to share with u today ....
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Years ago, a farmer owned land along the Atlantic seacoast.
He constantly advertised for hired hands. Most people were
reluctant to work on farms along the Atlantic . They dreaded the
awful storms that raged across the Atlantic , wreaking havoc on the buildings and crops.
As the farmer interviewed applicants for the job, he received a steady stream of refusals.
Finally, a short, thin man, well past middle age, approached
the farmer.
"Are you a good farm hand?" the farmer asked him.
"Well, I can sleep when the wind blows," answered the little man.
Although puzzled by this answer, the farmer, desperate for help , hired him.
The little man worked well around the farm, busy from
dawn to dusk, and the farmer felt satisfied with the man's work.
Then one night the wind howled loudly in from offshore.
Jumping out of bed, the farmer grabbed a lantern and rushed
next door to the hired hand's sleeping quarters. He shook the
little man and yelled, "Get up! A storm is coming ! Tie things down before they blow away!"
The little man rolled over in bed and said firmly, "No sir. I told you, I can sleep when the wind blows."
Enraged by the response, the farmer was tempted to fire him on the spot.
Instead, he hurried outside to prepare for the storm.
To his amazement, he discovered that all of the haystacks had
been covered with tarpaulins. The cows were in the barn, the chickens
were in the coops, and the doors were barred.
The shutters were tightly secured. Everything was tied down.
Nothing could blow away. The farmer then understood what his
hired hand meant, so he returned to his bed to also sleep while
the wind blew.
The Morale Of This Story ?
When you're prepared, spiritually, mentally, and physically,
you have nothing to fear. Can you sleep when the
wind blows through your life?
The hired hand in the story was able to sleep because he
had secured the farm against the storm.
We secure ourselves against the storms of life by
grounding ourselves in the Word of God.
We don't need to understand, we just need to hold
His hand to have peace in the middle of storms.
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A friend of mine shared this with me today,
and I enjoyed it so much, that I wanted to share it to you.
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As the farmer interviewed applicants for the job, he received a steady stream of refusals.
I don't get this part
If applicants refused to work
Why go for apply and go for interview? -
just nice, i have a presentation tmr.
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very interesting.
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The moral of your story does not relate to the story itself.
To prepare for the storm, the hired worker physically tied down everything so that stuff won't get blown away.
This we can all agree.
But you recommend holding the hand of an invisible superbeing to prepare for a storm.
Does that mean you don't have to physically tie everything down because god will do it?
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what kind of reasoning is this. please do not lower the intelligence of the forumers down here.
i dunno whether to laugh or pity your sense of logic. -
The point here is not about holding the hands of God. (you can't anyway)Originally posted by Cystaire:The moral of your story does not relate to the story itself.
To prepare for the storm, the hired worker physically tied down everything so that stuff won't get blown away.
This we can all agree.
But you recommend holding the hand of an invisible superbeing to prepare for a storm.
Does that mean you don't have to physically tie everything down because god will do it?
If you still have to do it anyway, why do you need to hold his hand?
You can only trust that everything is well and fine ultimately, and you need preparations for that trust. That trust can come from religions provided that you do contemplation.
In the case of christianity, you trust that God is omnipotent and has a path of salvation for you no matter what happens.
In buddhism, you just let go of everything.
For the magic people they just want to feel good about themselves.
When you're prepared, spiritually, mentally, and physically
Mentally is like academic studying just to pass exams. Spiritually would be what you really feel (or "know" ). -
When you're prepared, spiritually, mentally, and physically,
"we don't need to understand, we just need to hold his....."
you have nothing to fear. Can you sleep when the
wind blows through your life?
The hired hand in the story was able to sleep because he
had secured the farm against the storm.
We secure ourselves against the storms of life by
grounding ourselves in the Word of God.
We don't need to understand, we just need to hold
His hand to have peace in the middle of storms.
maybe you can write this phrase when you don't know how to answer your test next time. -
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"trust that everything is well and fine ultimately" ????Originally posted by Eric Cartman:The point here is not about holding the hands of God. (you can't anyway)
You can only trust that everything is well and fine ultimately, and you need preparations for that trust. That trust can come from religions provided that you do contemplation.
looking at the state the world is in now with all the pollution, accidents and problems, u think i believe that everything will be fine ultimately.
maybe it will be fine one day. but by then i guess billions have died while those who lived in that world at that time can enjoy a better world.
i say we forget about the trust of superior being. instead of believing this things , i suggest that people should just work and put in effort indivdually or collectively if you want improvement or stability in life. and at the same time remember that life is unpredictable. [/b] -
Originally posted by january:
"Fine ultimately" means you can't do anything about those worldly things after you die anyway.
"trust that everything is well and fine ultimately" ????
looking at the state the world is in now with all the pollution, accidents and problems, u think i believe that everything will be fine ultimately.
maybe it will be fine one day. but by then i guess billions have died while those who lived in that world at that time can enjoy a better world.
i say we forget about the trust of superior being. instead of believing this things , i suggest that people should just work and put in effort indivdually or collectively if you want improvement or stability in life. and at the same time remember that life is unpredictable. [/b]
If you can do something about the pollutions and etc, go do them now instead of worrying but not doing anything. If you can't do anything about it then stop thinking about it because it is foolish. That is why I said you need preparations for that peace of mind. -
what you say is correct and i agree.Originally posted by Eric Cartman:"Fine ultimately" means you can't do anything about those worldly things after you die anyway.
If you can do something about the pollutions and etc, go do them now instead of worrying but not doing anything. If you can't do anything about it then stop thinking about it because it is foolish. That is why I said you need preparations for that peace of mind.
but my argument is relating to TS point of view. -
How is his point of view different from what I said?Originally posted by january:what you say is correct and i agree.
but my argument is relating to TS point of view. -
I generally agree with your interpretation.Originally posted by Eric Cartman:The point here is not about holding the hands of God. (you can't anyway)
You can only trust that everything is well and fine ultimately, and you need preparations for that trust. That trust can come from religions provided that you do contemplation.
In the case of christianity, you trust that God is omnipotent and has a path of salvation for you no matter what happens.
In buddhism, you just let go of everything.
For the magic people they just want to feel good about themselves.
When you're prepared, spiritually, mentally, and physically
Mentally is like academic studying just to pass exams. Spiritually would be what you really feel (or "know" ).
However I think the TS really believe you can "hold the hands of god" by being devoted to his religion.
My issue is with his story specifically. What is the story trying to teach? Should we physically prepare for difficulties or spiritually prepare for difficulties?
If we spiritually prepare only, why doesn't it work? (Note that the hired hand spent much time and effort to tie stuff down. If he had divine help, he could sleep soundly without any physical preparation, since god will make the storm miss him entirely).
If we do both, how can we attribute all of the helpful effects to god only?
This problem is illustrated by my Stone Soup story http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=225325 -
he talks about God.
you don't need a God to stop worrying.
i don't believe in God and i dun pray to him when i am in trouble.
i just try to be calm and not worry by my own effort. -
Integrating mind and body is another prerequisite for that peace of mind.Originally posted by Cystaire:I generally agree with your interpretation.
However I think the TS really believe you can "hold the hands of god" by being devoted to his religion.
My issue is with his story specifically. What is the story trying to teach? Should we physically prepare for difficulties or spiritually prepare for difficulties?
If we spiritually prepare only, why doesn't it work? (Note that the hired hand spent much time and effort to tie stuff down. If he had divine help, he could sleep soundly without any physical preparation, since god will make the storm miss him entirely).
If we do both, how can we attribute all of the helpful effects to god only?
This problem is illustrated by my Stone Soup story http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=225325 -
Then how is it that you are disturbed by youself being single? You want a girlfriend don't you.Originally posted by january:he talks about God.
you don't need a God to stop worrying.
i don't believe in God and i dun pray to him when i am in trouble.
i just try to be calm and not worry by my own effort. -
The TS never mentioned this.Originally posted by Eric Cartman:Integrating mind and body is another prerequisite for that peace of mind.
I think the story that he posted here is problematic. It doesn't demonstrate what it intends to teach.
But yet he finds it inspirational.
I propose a testable hypothesis - people who cannot see the flaws of the story will tend to find it motivating.
In other words, as a source of spiritual comfort, confusion is superior to clarity. -
He mentioned "Words of God". The bible contains a lot of mind and body disciplining teachings.Originally posted by Cystaire:The TS never mentioned this.
I think the story that he posted here is problematic. It doesn't demonstrate what it intends to teach.
But yet he finds it inspirational.
I propose a testable hypothesis - people who cannot see the flaws of the story will tend to find it motivating.
In other words, as a source of spiritual comfort, confusion is superior to clarity. -
i still worry nowadays over things in life. but i take accountability for that.Originally posted by Eric Cartman:Then how is it that you are disturbed by youself being single? You want a girlfriend don't you.
there are various degree of worries. when people write they are worried or stress in forums, there is a range of severity.
some just worry for less than a minutes. while others worries for weeks. there is a huge difference in these 2 types of people.
i am the type who does worry but for a extremely short while. but i still consider that something that is to be improved upon.
so you are worryless in life now? wow, if you are, then you are great i think. maybe you can teach me a thing or two. -
How about shortening that minutes of worry to seconds, then to miliseconds and eventually into 0. What do you mean accountability? If it is what I think it is then they also have the saying "God helps those who help themselves" (not sure if it is from the bible or not)Originally posted by january:i still worry nowadays over things in life. but i take accountability for that.
there are various degree of worries. when people write they are worried or stress in forums, there is a range of severity.
some just worry for less than a minutes. while others worries for weeks. there is a huge difference in these 2 types of people.
i am the type who does worry but for a extremely short while. but i still consider that something that is to be improved upon.
so you are worryless in life now? wow, if you are, then you are great i think. maybe you can teach me a thing or two. -
That's your opinion.Originally posted by Eric Cartman:He mentioned "Words of God". The bible contains a lot of mind and body disciplining teachings.
I suspect he would say that spiritual preparation is different from integrating mind and body.
Anyway a little off-topic, in reality (as in evidence-based reality) there is no separation between "spirit", "mind" and "body". These labels relate to the various organizational aspects of a living system.
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TS just demonstrated the problem I have with Christian 'reasoning'... I never found anything I heard from Christians enlightening or really meaningful, just self referential and arbitrary. Maybe that's why you really need 'faith', cos logic cannot apply.
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Originally posted by Eric Cartman:How about shortening that minutes of worry to seconds, then to miliseconds and eventually into 0. What do you mean accountability? If it is what I think it is then they also have the saying "God helps those who help themselves" (not sure if it is from the bible or not)
My friend, YOU are one of those people who would find this story inspiring!!!
"God helps those who help themselves"???
I am quite disappointed.
Needless to say, if you can't find a problem with this statement, you won't be able to see the glaring holes in the motivational story.