the story is a true story .... heard it countless times liao .. jus tat this time taiwan media used it to make headlines nia ... she has used this story many times in her concerts all around thw world ... telling ppl how GOd has cosoled her n helped her forgive her tormentorsOriginally posted by jay_rocks:for making the headlines only. what's the big fuss?
really!Originally posted by hiphop2009:haha.....really?
wahahaha!....Originally posted by silv3rgal:really!![]()
They buy the albums as show of support. Its kinda forced loyalty if you are part of the church. I know they buy multiple copies and give it to their friends.Originally posted by hao_hao:not cos of the church ..... the church WILL NEVER force its members to buy SUN's albums
multiple copies???Originally posted by Ignatiaus:They buy the albums as show of support. Its kinda forced loyalty if you are part of the church. I know they buy multiple copies and give it to their friends.
Sure its not forced
I call it fanaticism
got evidence?Originally posted by hao_hao:i heard her story many times liao .... n jus to clarify 1 thing .... her album sales has NOTHING to do with CHC .... the ppl buy her cd cos of her story .. not cos of the church ..... the church WILL NEVER force its members to buy SUN's albums
so?Originally posted by hao_hao:the story is a true story .... heard it countless times liao .. jus tat this time taiwan media used it to make headlines nia ... she has used this story many times in her concerts all around thw world ... telling ppl how GOd has cosoled her n helped her forgive her tormentors
nope ... its not forced loyalty ... the church only help to promote it ... its up to the members to buy it anot ....Originally posted by Ignatiaus:They buy the albums as show of support. Its kinda forced loyalty if you are part of the church. I know they buy multiple copies and give it to their friends.
Sure its not forced
I call it fanaticism
tats when she was younger .....Originally posted by gigabyte14:using her fame to gain promote christianity =_="
dunwan face ah? so old liao say she kena molest...
wtf
relax la...haha...Originally posted by gigabyte14:using her fame to gain promote christianity =_="
dunwan face ah? so old liao say she kena molest...
wtf
well all i can say is its for u to find outOriginally posted by jay_rocks:got evidence?
Now why is a church promoting pop albums on their premises?Originally posted by hao_hao:nope ... its not forced loyalty ... the church only help to promote it ... its up to the members to buy it anot ....
see? publicity. for brainwashing more people to join...Originally posted by charlize:Now why is a church promoting pop albums on their premises?
Branching out to become the next HMV?
they noe it long before u existed .... yes u may say its publicity ..... but they NV use it as a tool to brainwash ppl to join the church .... they jus promote it out of love for her .. its their pastor afterallOriginally posted by gigabyte14:see? publicity. for brainwashing more people to join...
how long will it takes for them to know that the joining of a religion is FREE-WILLED??? not FORCED![]()
So is she a pastor or a pop singer?Originally posted by hao_hao:they noe it long before u existed .... yes u may say its publicity ..... but they NV use it as a tool to brainwash ppl to join the church .... they jus promote it out of love for her .. its their pastor afterall
wife of the pastor who owns city harvest church, yes?Originally posted by charlize:So is she a pastor or a pop singer?
i assume you're christian?Originally posted by hao_hao:they noe it long before u existed .... yes u may say its publicity ..... but they NV use it as a tool to brainwash ppl to join the church .... they jus promote it out of love for her .. its their pastor afterall
Members are not forced to buy but to show support they buy and even multiple copies.Originally posted by hao_hao:nope ... its not forced loyalty ... the church only help to promote it ... its up to the members to buy it anot ....
she is a pastor cum pop singer ..... in fact now she is more of a pop singer .. she spends most of her time overseas ...... n only goes back once in a while ...... yes she is still a pastor .. ppl in chc still respect her as a pastor n r proud of her achievements..... n she doesnt sing in the church anymore .. she only comes back t5o the church as a pastor's wifeOriginally posted by charlize:So is she a pastor or a pop singer?
Church or social club now?Originally posted by gigabyte14:i assume you're christian?
a whole load of my friends began going to the church, changing their religion and i saw a lot of the people there saying, make more friends, join us! =_="
now what do you have a say to that? free will again?![]()
well .. yes i am .... n i have nothing against non christians ..... well no doubt they r asking u t join them ..... but its tat they jus wanna u to join in their fun .... its up to u whether u wan join them anot .. no one will force uOriginally posted by gigabyte14:i assume you're christian?
a whole load of my friends began going to the church, changing their religion and i saw a lot of the people there saying, make more friends, join us! =_="
now what do you have a say to that? free will again?![]()
Originally posted by Ignatiaus:Members are not forced to buy but to show support they buy and even multiple copies.
So how is that not fanaticism? fair enough its not forced loyalty.
Using a church to promote one person's ambition is technically something not taught in the bible.
Since when do the sheep of the flock start following a sheperd when he's wilfully looking the other way?
One example is FCBC's Lawrence Kong who used his chruch to further his ambition to become a stage magician. He's the pastor of that church.
I know this coz i used to work for that SOB.
People in such postions who abuse the chruch and the congregration deserve nothing but hell.
you quoted "People in such postions who abuse the chruch and the congregration deserve nothing but hell."
so i think there will be a lot of ppl going to hell liao in this world :
because they have done more horrible things then those who abuse the church?
well u cant really say own ...... yes he set up the church ..... n is called the founder but its actually nt him alone who founded the church .. he did it with a few other pastors who r pioneers of the churchOriginally posted by gigabyte14:wife of the pastor who owns city harvest church, yes?
well that's what i'm talking about...Originally posted by Ignatiaus:Members are not forced to buy but to show support they buy and even multiple copies.
So how is that not fanaticism? fair enough its not forced loyalty.
Using a church to promote one person's ambition is technically something not taught in the bible.
Since when do the sheep of the flock start following a sheperd when he's wilfully looking the other way?
One example is FCBC's Lawrence Kong who used his chruch to further his ambition to become a stage magician. He's the pastor of that church.
I know this coz i used to work for that SOB.
People in such postions who abuse the chruch and the congregration deserve nothing but hell.