How tis planet earth started actually? and how life form
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Okay la okay la.
Tell you all the truth. It was actually suzumiya haruhi that created everything.
And sometimes its impossible to prove your point to devoted christian.
Cause all they can think is god god god god god. -
God of course! You dun want to go to hell right?!Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Which one you want to listen? Big Bang's theory or God's word?
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Even top-notch scientist can't explain this and u expect us, ordinary forumnites, to explain this? Is that even possible? -
for the last time.... humans did not evolve from apes. that is a sloppy way to put it in evolutionary terms. the correct theory is this: humans and the apes had a common ancestor. imagine a single bacteria splitting into two non-identical individuals. that is what sort of happened with humans and apes...Originally posted by popikachu:scientist say humans evolved from apes...
that is why questions like "why still got apes if we said humans evolved from apes" is totally pointless. cos we did not evolve FROM apes. we evolved together but away from apes. -
Yea unfortunately there is almost no way to convince me about evolution. Evolution is a theory it is still a theory. Maybe 10,000 years later or 100,000 years later if I still alive. and I see human turning into another creature then I would belive. there are just too many flaws in the theory itself. How come only some apes evolve and others don't. Why those didn't evolve remains the same? Evolution theory are not evidential in plants. Some people tell me bacteria can show evolution. I think that is bullsh it. Have you seen a ancient bacteria from the egyptian tomb evolve into something else from today? They must had already gone through millions of generations in these thoudsands of years. I never see a bacteria turning into a flying monster. They may become more immune etc etc. Don't human too like that? How about the missing links? Even evolution theory evolves over time. There is quite a number of debates over evolution theory itself. And it changes over time. Evolutionist try to explain it as that the theory is perfecting itself. Why not they just admit that the theory is flawed. Simply as that I think evolution is the GREATEST LIE OF MANKIND! Perhaps the only reason for that schools and scientist is trusting on the theory is because it is the only theory that sound the most logical at our lower down perspective.
2 centuries ago isn't it the fact that no one believe the earth is round? If scientist can tell you that he shows you the process of this theory and can't show you where it all begins it really quite bull shi t. They can tell you so much about how living things evolve but can't show you where on this earth it all begins is a crap theory. I haven't heard of anyone discovered the place on earth where stones turn into living organism. -
Ok. I suggest you go here and post your question. I guess you'll get a good answer from there.Originally posted by kivine:God of course! You dun want to go to hell right?!
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depends on ur beliefs
christians dont make good scientists
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oh noez! actuallly, i made everything.
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One more Ohnoez from you and I'll ban you. Better heed my warning.Originally posted by ohnoez!:oh noez! actuallly, i made everything. -
erm.. what u pointed out aren't flaws... they just highlight how little u actually know abt evolution theory...Originally posted by banzie:Yea unfortunately there is almost no way to convince me about evolution. Evolution is a theory it is still a theory. Maybe 10,000 years later or 100,000 years later if I still alive. and I see human turning into another creature then I would belive. there are just too many flaws in the theory itself. How come only some apes evolve and others don't. Why those didn't evolve remains the same? Evolution theory are not evidential in plants. Some people tell me bacteria can show evolution. I think that is bullsh it. Have you seen a ancient bacteria from the egyptian tomb evolve into something else from today? They must had already gone through millions of generations in these thoudsands of years. I never see a bacteria turning into a flying monster. They may become more immune etc etc. Don't human too like that? How about the missing links? Even evolution theory evolves over time. There is quite a number of debates over evolution theory itself. And it changes over time. Evolutionist try to explain it as that the theory is perfecting itself. Why not they just admit that the theory is flawed. Simply as that I think evolution is the GREATEST LIE OF MANKIND! Perhaps the only reason for that schools and scientist is trusting on the theory is because it is the only theory that sound the most logical at our lower down perspective.
2 centuries ago isn't it the fact that no one believe the earth is round? If scientist can tell you that he shows you the process of this theory and can't show you where it all begins it really quite bull shi t. They can tell you so much about how living things evolve but can't show you where on this earth it all begins is a crap theory. I haven't heard of anyone discovered the place on earth where stones turn into living organism.
'fraid to say, i wouldn't have called u ignorant if not for what u have posted above. But now... i believe that u r indeed ignorant about this topic.
Evolution theory does have flaws, but as a scientific theory, it is open to scrutiny and discussion.... come up with a better, verifiable theory, and evolution will be dumped. -
NOOB. GG.Originally posted by banzie:Yea unfortunately there is almost no way to convince me about evolution. Evolution is a theory it is still a theory. Maybe 10,000 years later or 100,000 years later if I still alive. and I see human turning into another creature then I would belive. there are just too many flaws in the theory itself. How come only some apes evolve and others don't. Why those didn't evolve remains the same? Evolution theory are not evidential in plants. Some people tell me bacteria can show evolution. I think that is bullsh it. Have you seen a ancient bacteria from the egyptian tomb evolve into something else from today? They must had already gone through millions of generations in these thoudsands of years. I never see a bacteria turning into a flying monster. They may become more immune etc etc. Don't human too like that? How about the missing links? Even evolution theory evolves over time. There is quite a number of debates over evolution theory itself. And it changes over time. Evolutionist try to explain it as that the theory is perfecting itself. Why not they just admit that the theory is flawed. Simply as that I think evolution is the GREATEST LIE OF MANKIND! Perhaps the only reason for that schools and scientist is trusting on the theory is because it is the only theory that sound the most logical at our lower down perspective.
2 centuries ago isn't it the fact that no one believe the earth is round? If scientist can tell you that he shows you the process of this theory and can't show you where it all begins it really quite bull shi t. They can tell you so much about how living things evolve but can't show you where on this earth it all begins is a crap theory. I haven't heard of anyone discovered the place on earth where stones turn into living organism. -
really agree that you are a noob.Originally posted by banzie:Yea unfortunately there is almost no way to convince me about evolution. Evolution is a theory it is still a theory. Maybe 10,000 years later or 100,000 years later if I still alive. and I see human turning into another creature then I would belive. there are just too many flaws in the theory itself. How come only some apes evolve and others don't. Why those didn't evolve remains the same? Evolution theory are not evidential in plants. Some people tell me bacteria can show evolution. I think that is bullsh it. Have you seen a ancient bacteria from the egyptian tomb evolve into something else from today? They must had already gone through millions of generations in these thoudsands of years. I never see a bacteria turning into a flying monster. They may become more immune etc etc. Don't human too like that? How about the missing links? Even evolution theory evolves over time. There is quite a number of debates over evolution theory itself. And it changes over time. Evolutionist try to explain it as that the theory is perfecting itself. Why not they just admit that the theory is flawed. Simply as that I think evolution is the GREATEST LIE OF MANKIND! Perhaps the only reason for that schools and scientist is trusting on the theory is because it is the only theory that sound the most logical at our lower down perspective.
2 centuries ago isn't it the fact that no one believe the earth is round? If scientist can tell you that he shows you the process of this theory and can't show you where it all begins it really quite bull shi t. They can tell you so much about how living things evolve but can't show you where on this earth it all begins is a crap theory. I haven't heard of anyone discovered the place on earth where stones turn into living organism.
there are abundant studies and text about evolution.
there are many testing and application in studying fossil also
go read more first before u say the theory is wrong. -
Two words Big Bang
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one thing to add.. notice banzie's reasoning...Originally posted by january:really agree that you are a noob.
there are abundant studies and text about evolution.
there are many testing and application in studying fossil also
go read more first before u say the theory is wrong.
besides the fact that it is obviously superficial / immature, he is also being rather dogmatic as would be expected from religious indoctrination. e.g... assuming that theory of evolution is necessarily wrong because it is flawed and incomplete. Maybe if he knew that absolutism is never the aim in scientific pursuits.. just because newton's laws were flawed (as they have been proven to be), it doesn't mean they were not pointing in the right direction.
oh, n btw,... even if he live 10000 to 100000 years he may not see much change. Such development takes millions of years, a concept which may not be comfortable with Christian dogma.
and lastly.. i don;t see myself as an atheist per se.. im open to all possibilities... i won't be that surprised if one day it is accepted that a form of pure intelligence (nope, probably not an old cuacasian man with a beard) was indeed at work in the universe's creation... after all, human intelligence is not 'supernatural' at all.... -
From what I see I think you are the real noob. There are so many books that people wrote about evolution... I guess you never read them. If not you wouldn't have doubt my queries. For once keep up with your knowledge. There are even more books written about Bible. You want to read them too?Originally posted by january:really agree that you are a noob.
there are abundant studies and text about evolution.
there are many testing and application in studying fossil also
go read more first before u say the theory is wrong. -
1. How come only some apes evolve and others don't. Why those didn't evolve remains the same?Originally posted by banzie:blah blah blah(edited by kivine - look above for more info)
Apes and humans(and other monkeys) evolved from a common ancestor.
They remain the same to you because your scope is too limited. Read more books on evolution please.Almost or ALL animals evolved at a certain point of time.
2. Have you seen a ancient bacteria from the egyptian tomb evolve into something else from today? They must had already gone through millions of generations in these thoudsands of years. I never see a bacteria turning into a flying monster.
Of course I have not seen an ancient bacteria evolving.I must be one old fart if I'd managed to see one.
Evolution is spurned by necessity, except artificial evolution. Why should I evolve if I'm capable to survive the environment? Dinosaurs died out due to some unforeseen circumstances. The dodo became extinct partially because they can't fly and are considered failures, while their cousins evolved from the SAME ancestor managed to survive!NATURAL SELECTION.
3. How about the missing links? Even evolution theory evolves over time. There is quite a number of debates over evolution theory itself. And it changes over time. Evolutionist try to explain it as that the theory is perfecting itself.
True. No rebuttals
4. They can tell you so much about how living things evolve but can't show you where on this earth it all begins is a crap theory.
My mum and dad used to tell me how I've become a human from a sperm+egg but they can't tell me where i was made from. From their bed? Car? Washing machine? IS LOCATION IMPT?
5. I haven't heard of anyone discovered the place on earth where stones turn into living organism.
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Superficial and immature... I think I know more about evolution that you. Why not pick up the book and read about it for once that just telling everyone that who ever opposes the views of yours are superficial and immature. The thing about newton's law is it is testable. It is not a theory. And lastly it is not a cuacasian and I have yet to talk about anything religious. That shows how shallow your person and knowledge is,Originally posted by fatslob:one thing to add.. notice banzie's reasoning...
besides the fact that it is obviously superficial / immature, he is also being rather dogmatic as would be expected from religious indoctrination. e.g... assuming that theory of evolution is necessarily wrong because it is flawed and incomplete. Maybe if he knew that absolutism is never the aim in scientific pursuits.. just because newton's laws were flawed (as they have been proven to be), it doesn't mean they were not pointing in the right direction.
oh, n btw,... even if he live 10000 to 100000 years he may not see much change. Such development takes millions of years, a concept which may not be comfortable with Christian dogma.
and lastly.. i don;t see myself as an atheist per se.. im open to all possibilities... i won't be that surprised if one day it is accepted that a form of pure intelligence (nope, probably not an old cuacasian man with a beard) was indeed at work in the universe's creation... after all, human intelligence is not 'supernatural' at all.... -
If after reading all those books, u could only come up with those 'flaws', then u have been reading the wrong books (hmm, i wonder who wrote them).. the problems with the theory are there... they are just not as simplistic as u make them out to be.Originally posted by banzie:From what I see I think you are the real noob. There are so many books that people wrote about evolution... I guess you never read them. If not you wouldn't have doubt my queries. For once keep up with your knowledge. There are even more books written about Bible. You want to read them too?
Besides the problem of the 'missing link', the rest are easily refutable. Actually, dun even need to refute, cos they r not arguments.. just misinformation. -
Dont know much about evolution.
But according to your way of reasoning.
You are just digging out loopholes of the "impossible" -
Frankly your inability to answer the last two question is already prove the point that evolution theory is flawed. Is location important? No but the fact that you show me Life is form the way your evolution tells you IS!Originally posted by kivine:Crap -
You can oppose my view, but get your facts right first before stepping into the arena.Originally posted by banzie:Superficial and immature... I think I know more about evolution that you. Why not pick up the book and read about it for once that just telling everyone that who ever opposes the views of yours are superficial and immature. The thing about newton's law is it is testable. It is not a theory. And lastly it is not a cuacasian and I have yet to talk about anything religious. That shows how shallow your person and knowledge is,
And if you know so much... why then were u simply proven wrong by kivine? I don;t claim to know a lot about evolution, but surprsingly, for a 'well-read' person, u r far less knowledgeable.
Btw.. the caucasian white guy thing was just poking at u...
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And yea they did find ancient bacteria inthe tomb for your shallow information.
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Crappy answers derives from a crappy question. How can I answer your question? Perhaps explaining your reason why is location impt- then perhaps i could think of a proper answer.Originally posted by banzie:Frankly your inability to answer the last two question is already prove the point that evolution theory is flawed. Is location important? No but the fact that you show me Life is form the way your evolution tells you IS!
And yea they did find ancient bacteria inthe tomb for your shallow information.
Maybe it the garden of Eden where everything gets started! OMG! I so smart!!
Yes, I admit the evolution theory is flawed. Newton's law is flawed OK!
http://www.skybooksusa.com/time-travel/physics/newtons.htm
and about the bacteria(I know about that)- it further proves that there isn't a necessity for evolution because it is fully capable of sustaining itself -
a tomb is an isolated environment.... and a few thousand years is nothing, if you expect them to turn into fire breathing dragons in that time then u r seriously seriously way off track.Originally posted by banzie:And yea they did find ancient bacteria inthe tomb for your shallow information. -
And finally at least kivine had try something more intelligent that most of the rest just dumping the subject with nothing at all...