In memory of Shanmugam Murugesu
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Tell that to Hello Kitty.Originally posted by BadzMaro:Ya.. i agree.. if country death penalty.. of course dont bring in ..lo.. i dont understand why ppl will still smuggle knowing the maximum penalty once caught.
Some have thier reasons for smuggling , but i think for ppl who try to decry the executions must also understand that under the laws , once found guilty , is punishable by death. Sad to say even if its only marijuana.. its the death penalty in that country. Instead b|tching about it , why not educate them , n change the laws when they are in a position of power. he he~
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I shall start my crusade of re-education in the forum!Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Tell that to Hello Kitty. 
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What a joke! Which planet are you living on? Marijuana not addictive? Go and read about the thousands undergoing therapy in the USOriginally posted by coffeegirl:As an American citizen, I was shocked to find out that a man was murdered by Singapore for having marijuana.
It is well known in the USA that this is a natural, non-addicting and very popular smokable plant. Many states have already legalized it for medicine, and much more is to come.
This is a bloodstain on Singapore, probably based on ignorance. Note we are not discussing opium here! I am sure many of you drink beer and wine but think nothing about doing that.
It also seems that the fact that two young children begged for their father's life meant nothing to Singapore. This a horror on top of a horror.
Fortunately, Mr. Murugesu and Singapore's horrific killing live on in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanmugam_Murugesu
Here are some of the effects of cannabis:http://www.marijuanaaddiction.info/effects-of-marijuana.htm
I don't care if it is popular in the US and I don't give a hoot if the US president inhaled or not. The laws of Singapore are clear. Those who would come to this country must respect our sovereignty and our right to enact laws we want for ourselves. If anyone (citizens or foreigners) does not respect our laws, he should be prosecuted in accordance to the law.
Murugesu received justice following a fair trial and in accordance to the due processes of the judicial system. If you are an American as you claim, I suggest you focus on the prisoners held without trial in Guantanamo Bay before you expose your hypocrisy by criticising the judicial process of another nation. Being high on cannabis does not excuse the sanctimonious stupidity for which Americans are so well-known. -
*raises his hands*Originally posted by oxford mushroom:What a joke! Which planet are you living on? Marijuana not addictive? Go and read about the thousands undergoing therapy in the US
Here are some of the effects of cannabis:http://www.marijuanaaddiction.info/effects-of-marijuana.htm
I don't care if it is popular in the US and I don't give a hoot if the US president inhaled or not. The laws of Singapore are clear. Those who would come to this country must respect our sovereignty and our right to enact laws we want for ourselves. If anyone (citizens or foreigners) does not respect our laws, he should be prosecuted in accordance to the law.
Murugesu received justice following a fair trial and in accordance to the due processes of the judicial system. If you are an American as you claim, I suggest you focus on the prisoners held without trial in Guantanamo Bay before you expose your hypocrisy by criticising the judicial process of another nation. Being high on cannabis does not excuse the sanctimonious stupidity for which Americans are so well-known.
question... why is Alchohol not illegal ? and cigarettes ? dont they pose one of the greatest reasons substances are banned , addictive ? Maybe there is more to being addictive ? maybe.... political ?
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you know its wrong to fu ck your mother , but u still go ahead and F her......? ? ?
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Short-term effects of using marijuana include:Originally posted by BadzMaro:*raises his hands*
question... why is Alchohol not illegal ? and cigarettes ? dont they pose one of the greatest reasons substances are banned , addictive ? Maybe there is more to being addictive ? maybe.... political ?
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Sleepiness
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Difficulty keeping track of time, impaired or reduced short-term memory
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Reduced ability to perform tasks requiring concentration and coordination, such as driving a car
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Increased heart rate
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Potential cardiac dangers for those with preexisting heart disease
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Bloodshot eyes
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Dry mouth and throat
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Decreased social inhibitions
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Paranoia, hallucinations
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Impaired or reduced short-term memory
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Impaired or reduced comprehension
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Altered motivation and cognition, making the acquisition of new information difficult
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Paranoia
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Psychological dependence
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Impairments in learning, memory, perception, and judgment - difficulty speaking, listening effectively, thinking, retaining knowledge, problem solving, and forming concepts
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Intense anxiety or panic attacks
read the site he posted , a lot more reasons for u to explain -
fu king ur momma is different from smoking pot. If u are comparing fu king ur momma with injecting coke , then i got nothing to say.Originally posted by givemeluck:you know its wrong to fu ck your mother , but u still go ahead and F her......? ? ? -
since when did i compared it with smoking pot ????Originally posted by BadzMaro:fu king ur momma is different from smoking pot. If u are comparing fu king ur momma with injecting coke , then i got nothing to say. -
My question is why is Alchohol n Cigarettes not banned ? ur mommy says its bad to drink alchohol n cigarettes why u still do it ? heh..Originally posted by givemeluck:Short-term effects of using marijuana include:
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Sleepiness
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Difficulty keeping track of time, impaired or reduced short-term memory
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Reduced ability to perform tasks requiring concentration and coordination, such as driving a car
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Increased heart rate
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Potential cardiac dangers for those with preexisting heart disease
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Bloodshot eyes
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Dry mouth and throat
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Decreased social inhibitions
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Paranoia, hallucinations
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Impaired or reduced short-term memory
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Impaired or reduced comprehension
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Altered motivation and cognition, making the acquisition of new information difficult
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Paranoia
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Psychological dependence
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Impairments in learning, memory, perception, and judgment - difficulty speaking, listening effectively, thinking, retaining knowledge, problem solving, and forming concepts
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Intense anxiety or panic attacks
read the site he posted , a lot more reasons for u to explain
You just dont get it ? why not read This article ?
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drugs/hemp-marijuana/
n perhaps we compare notes. I have thoroughly read through all materials related to marijuana for the past 8 yrs.. maybe u just read a small article. 1 simple enough for you to understand in easier understandable form.
u decide. n compare.
The drug rehabilitation centre can only function as long as there are patients. N what drugs is the most used ? Marijuana.
Everything in moderation. -
no ma.. i thought ma.. cause u post below me.Originally posted by givemeluck:since when did i compared it with smoking pot ????
my bad i confuse the drug hanging n pot.. hahahah! -
hehe chill ...Originally posted by BadzMaro:no ma.. i thought ma.. cause u post below me.
my bad i confuse the drug hanging n pot.. hahahah! -
ic....Originally posted by BadzMaro:My question is why is Alchohol n Cigarettes not banned ? ur mommy says its bad to drink alchohol n cigarettes why u still do it ? heh..
You just dont get it ? why not read This article ?
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/drugs/hemp-marijuana/
n perhaps we compare notes. I have thoroughly read through all materials related to marijuana for the past 8 yrs.. maybe u just read a small article. 1 simple enough for you to understand in easier understandable form.
u decide. n compare.
The drug rehabilitation centre can only function as long as there are patients. N what drugs is the most used ? Marijuana.
Everything in moderation.
maybe that guy should play this game
http://www.geekhideout.com/druglord2.shtml -
Originally posted by givemeluck:
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Shouldn't you be shocked and appalled about the thousands of innocents who died due to the USA crusade for oil under the guise of eradicating terroristsOriginally posted by coffeegirl:As an American citizen, I was shocked to find out that a man was murdered by Singapore for having marijuana.
It is well known in the USA that this is a natural, non-addicting and very popular smokable plant. Many states have already legalized it for medicine, and much more is to come.
This is a bloodstain on Singapore, probably based on ignorance. Note we are not discussing opium here! I am sure many of you drink beer and wine but think nothing about doing that.
It also seems that the fact that two young children begged for their father's life meant nothing to Singapore. This a horror on top of a horror.
Fortunately, Mr. Murugesu and Singapore's horrific killing live on in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanmugam_Murugesu
instead of being appalled by the death sentance of a man who committed a crime, knowing that it is punishable by death?
Isn't it even more shocking that every time Dubya opens his mouth, he murders his mother tongue? -
even if its a medicine or natural or non addicting.. and lets say its currently being used in singapore as medicine.. but it does not give the reason for him to possess it.Originally posted by coffeegirl:As an American citizen, I was shocked to find out that a man was murdered by Singapore for having marijuana.
It is well known in the USA that this is a natural, non-addicting and very popular smokable plant. Many states have already legalized it for medicine, and much more is to come.
This is a bloodstain on Singapore, probably based on ignorance. Note we are not discussing opium here! I am sure many of you drink beer and wine but think nothing about doing that.
It also seems that the fact that two young children begged for their father's life meant nothing to Singapore. This a horror on top of a horror.
Fortunately, Mr. Murugesu and Singapore's horrific killing live on in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanmugam_Murugesu
singapore laws say possession of drugs is capital punishment. if u wan to carry marijuana u jolly well have a good reason such as selling to pharmacies or u'r the distributer of this drug to distribute to the local hospitals.
if u allow such case to be an exception, many other lawyers defending future drug smugglers will abuse this case and let say they won, den we will have a veri big problem, that we might as well legalise this.
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Pinky, you're wrong.Originally posted by elindra:Shouldn't you be shocked and appalled about the thousands of innocents who died due to the USA crusade for oil under the guise of eradicating terrorists instead of being appalled by the death sentance of a man who committed a crime, knowing that it is punishable by death?
Isn't it even more shocking that every time Dubya opens his mouth, he murders his mother tongue?
The US killed HUNDREDs of thousands of civilians...and that is a very conservative estimate
And to put things into perspective, the number of people killed in the Sept 11 attacks is less than 10% of the total number of people killing themselves every year in the US. And yet I see no War on Suicide.
and I've got another 2 words for the thread starter:
Guantanamo Bay -
I am just wondering k.. what u guys think..
Imagine SG ... the size of US. Do think the way SG's government functions now, will be no different if it came under attack from terrorists? for Peace and Stablilty in its own country will not do what the US did ?
Just a thought~ what do u guys think ? Will you do it ?
Just putting things in anothers perspective thats all. -
What makes the law different from murderers? The justified act?
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I still call for an end to mandatory death penalty in Singapore.
It reduces the power of the courts to decide on a person's fate, and hands that decision to Parliament, who can and must not play the role of a judiciary by association. -
Once again, I appreciate all of your replies.
I cannot mix the Iraq war into the hanging case here. That is 'apples and oranges'.
The extremely negative website and information above must have been hand-picked by that poster, because I can show you hundreds of studies which support the reality, which I have stated. Please do not be fooled by that 'propaganda' source.
It is very easy to call something a 'drug' and therefore 'bad'. But just as you cannot compare beer and coffee with heroin, you also cannot compare marijuana.
I and many others have no question that the killing was an act of ignorance and savagery. -
You are entitled to your opinion.Originally posted by coffeegirl:Once again, I appreciate all of your replies.
I cannot mix the Iraq war into the hanging case here. That is 'apples and oranges'.
The extremely negative website and information above must have been hand-picked by that poster, because I can show you hundreds of studies which support the reality, which I have stated. Please do not be fooled by that 'propaganda' source.
It is very easy to call something a 'drug' and therefore 'bad'. But just as you cannot compare beer and coffee with heroin, you also cannot compare marijuana.
I and many others have no question that the killing was an act of ignorance and savagery.
Guantanamo and this hanging may seem apples and oranges to you, but let me put it to you that Murugesu's hanging and the nature of marijuana is just as much 'apples and oranges' from where we stand.
It is for our government and judiciary to decide where to draw the line... if indeed marijuana should not be deemed a drug, it would issue for debate in itself.
As it stands, or until such time when it is changed, and no matter how absurd it may seem to you, marijuana trafficking is a capital offence. Wilfully breaking the law with full knowledge of the consequences, that is an entirely different issue. -
A hundred fifty years ago, blacks were legal slaves in this country. When they tried to escape to freedom they were hanged. What do you say to that now?Originally posted by fatslob:As it stands, or until such time when it is changed, and no matter how absurd it may seem to you, marijuana trafficking is a capital offence. Wilfully breaking the law with full knowledge of the consequences, that is an entirely different issue.
Your reasoning would justify any action taken according to any law. That would include Hitler and a few other 'governments'. I hope that Mr. Murugesu's children will never read your chilling post about what is 'right'. -
Again, apples and oranges.Originally posted by coffeegirl:A hundred fifty years ago, blacks were legal slaves in this country. When they tried to escape to freedom they were hanged. What do you say to that now?
Your reasoning would justify any action taken according to any law. That would include Hitler and a few other 'governments'. I hope that Mr. Murugesu's children will never read your chilling post about what is 'right'.
Slaves were not given a choice whether to have that law applied to them.
Murugesu had his choice, as do all of us. -
Fully agreeOriginally posted by fatslob:Again, apples and oranges.
Slaves were not given a choice.
Murugesu had his.
If the law says that drug smuggling is illegal and punishable by capital punishment, den obey it. If you choose to not obey it den accept the consequences. From the start, its not about the drug, its about Murugesu not respecting the law. -
*sniggers ...... Pothead ....