Malay Christians
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one of my lecturer is a malay christian. she tend not to be open about it.
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eh, why n wad happen??Originally posted by Rejected:i don't believe in God anymore.
dun like tat la..
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He got boyfrens problem...Originally posted by Cool-gal:eh, why n wad happen??
dun like tat la..
can pm me if u wan..
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VEry subjective when talking about God!!! God god God!! oh my god, it's tough to be living in Singapore!!!Originally posted by Rejected:i don't believe in God anymore. 
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my personal take is that the culture of Singapore is very much aligned to malay= muslim kinda mentality and social culture.
I'm supposing that this is due to our historical and geographical connections to nearby muslim nations, and muslim dominated states. As such, culturely many malays adopt Islam as their birth religion.
To be a Malay and not a Muslim must be quite tough. society is still not very open to such a concept. But, in my opinion, this societal perspective could change, given time. -
I am a Malay Muslim myself and yes, I understand why my fellow Malays who have converted to Christianity or were born Christians would tend not to be open about it. Especially for converts, where they might face ostracism from even their own family members.
Frankly speaking, it has to be said that being Muslim is part of the Malay cultural identity. The festivals we celebrate, the customs we practice ; many have a religious background to it. You can't really celebrate Aidilfitri if you are not Muslim, can you?
I, for one, disapprove of such ostracism nonetheless.
Personally, I believe that religion is about having the free will to choose the right paths in life. I believe in freedom of worship and it irks me that one might be discriminated for his choice of religion.
My father was a Catholic before he converted to Islam and I would hate the thought of him being outcast from his own family for changing his religion. -
quite rare but last time i had a classmate who was one...keep kena bullied by those cb muts one..
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Indonesia has large Malay Christian population, and also serving in the army
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all the way i thought that the singapore constitution stated that all malays borned in singapore are muslims in default
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singapore is an open state.... no state religion....Originally posted by toll123:all the way i thought that the singapore constitution stated that all malays borned in singapore are muslims in default -
im glad the discussion has so far been rather professional and proper since this is an interesting but sensitive issue to discuss about.. lets just hope that the troublemakers do not come in and stir nonsense..
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Hi,
No it is wrong.....Indonesia's Christians are mostly not Malays.
They are actually from other ethnic groups.....Batak....Minahasa....several others.
A lot of confusion on this term 'Malay'.
In Indonesia, there are ethnic Malays, but they are mostly on parts of Sumatra, and they are only 1 ethnic group among the dozens or hundreds of different ethnic groups in Indonesia.
Indigenous people in Indonesia are very diverse. Malays are in relatively small numbers and only in some regions of Sumatra. The majority of them are Muslims. Other indigenous ethnic groups who are majority Christians, or have significant Christian population, are of different groups altogether.
This term 'Malay' is name of an ethnic group only, it should not be used as a broad 'race' or 'sub-race' for the whole indigenous people in South-East Asia. For instance, you cannot call the indigenous Filipino Catholics as 'Malays', although in the southern part of Phillipines there is indeed a Malay ethnic group who are Muslims, but the northern part of Phillipines are not ethnic Malays.
This 'Malay' term is only referring to ethnicity, dont keep getting it wrong.
I see this again and again.
Meat Pao. -
you should have ask they muts..have they carry out islam's laws and orders faithfully?Originally posted by DjMatrix:quite rare but last time i had a classmate who was one...keep kena bullied by those cb muts one..
this is madness..
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its not wrong to call people of this region Malays generally, although you can divide them into many smaller groupsOriginally posted by Meat Pao:Hi,
No it is wrong.....Indonesia's Christians are mostly not Malays.
They are actually from other ethnic groups.....Batak....Minahasa....several others.
A lot of confusion on this term 'Malay'.
In Indonesia, there are ethnic Malays, but they are mostly on parts of Sumatra, and they are only 1 ethnic group among the dozens or hundreds of different ethnic groups in Indonesia.
Indigenous people in Indonesia are very diverse. Malays are in relatively small numbers and only in some regions of Sumatra. The majority of them are Muslims. Other indigenous ethnic groups who are majority Christians, or have significant Christian population, are of different groups altogether.
This term 'Malay' is name of an ethnic group only, it should not be used as a broad 'race' or 'sub-race' for the whole indigenous people in South-East Asia. For instance, you cannot call the indigenous Filipino Catholics as 'Malays', although in the southern part of Phillipines there is indeed a Malay ethnic group who are Muslims, but the northern part of Phillipines are not ethnic Malays.
This 'Malay' term is only referring to ethnicity, dont keep getting it wrong.
I see this again and again.
Meat Pao.
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Im just helping to explain, so people will know. To correct something that is wrong.
Malay here refers to an ethnicity.
Cannot call other people who are not Malays as Malays.
For instance, here in Singapore there are ethnic Tamils.
We cannot say.....in India there are Tamils wearing the Turban. That is wrong, because in India, there are many different ethnic groups, and Tamils in India dont wear the Turban, it is actually the Sikh ethnic group, a completely different ethnic group in India. Tamil is an ethnic group, and Sikh is an ethnic group. They are both in India.
Same with this term 'Malay'. Many people are abit confused and just use this term wrongly. This term only refers to the Malay ethnic group. You cannot call other Indonesians who are ethnic Balinese, or Batak, or Minang, etc, as Malays.
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I guess it is the same with China?Originally posted by Meat Pao:Same with this term 'Malay'. Many people are abit confused and just use this term wrongly. This term only refers to the Malay ethnic group. You cannot call other Indonesians who are ethnic Balinese, or Batak, or Minang, etc, as Malays.
We cannot call Tibetans, Manchurians, those Yunnan tribal people .. chinese. -
What small percentage? The whole Philippines is Malay ChristiansOriginally posted by Imotep:Hi, I was just wondering whether there are any other Malay Christians out there??
I know the percentage is small in an already small Malay community but I just wanna know. -
not to promote racism or sth
i saw website that actually say bad stuff about a particular religion
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x 2Originally posted by Rejected:i don't believe in God anymore.
I also dun really believe in God anymore
Even he exists .. i wonder wat he is doing upstairs
sitting on his throne ... playing with our life
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dunno why these muslims n islamic tarnishing their image, after so many terrorists acts, they still wan more. killin so many innocents. den now go JB still must scared kena raped. wtf. fcuk them
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i hope i have nothing to do with these apostates
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Noah, theory and reality don't match. He whom many called God is good in blessing HIs evil children to prosper. So many evil christians are doing so well, prospering and some good sincere christians are suffering under these evil christians. He chooses who he wants to bless, so christians must be evil in order to receive blessings from God! Ha ha ha!! God god god, got or not!!! ha ha ha!!! What a good laugh!!!Originally posted by noahnoah:x 2
I also dun really believe in God anymore
Even he exists .. i wonder wat he is doing upstairs
sitting on his throne ... playing with our life
Always say leave it to God who will judge on judgement day, but christians never realise and admit that there are many things/events that cannot wait until the judgement day. Be pragmatic lah!!! -
'Chinese' is a bigger general term. It is a broad term. We can say Tibetans are Chinese, Yunnan tribe people are Chinese. But 'Malay' is not a broad general term. The position is smaller and more specific, just like Yunnan tribal people or Tibetans in the example above.Originally posted by Icemoon:I guess it is the same with China?
We cannot call Tibetans, Manchurians, those Yunnan tribal people .. chinese.
Just like in India, there are Tamils, Sikhs, and dozens more ethnic groups. We can call them all as Indians as a broad general term. But if someone use Tamil in that sense of broad general term, then it is wrong and silly, because Tamil is only 1 ethnic group in India, and they are not even the majority.
In Indonesia, the biggest indigenous ethnic group is Javanese. They are not Malays. The Malays are not the majority, in fact they are a small minority.
If you go to Jakarta and pluck a native-looking man from the street and ask him what his ethnicity is, his answer will be either 1. Javanese, or 2. Sundanese, and a small chance of other ethnic groups.
Malays in Indonesia are mainly in some regions of Sumatra and parts of Kalimantan.
So......that is the confusion about the use of this term 'Malays'. If people want to refer to native peoples in Indonesia in the broad general sense, just say 'Indonesians' or 'Native Indonesians' or something like that, but not 'Malays'.
Meat Pao. -
What a shame then, to name the whole region as the Malay Archipelago, when Malaya is not even the largest member.Originally posted by Meat Pao:So......that is the confusion about the use of this term 'Malays'. If people want to refer to native peoples in Indonesia in the broad general sense, just say 'Indonesians' or 'Native Indonesians' or something like that, but not 'Malays'.