Nikon D40x dSLR
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If he's interested in photography, might as well jump straight into a dSLR... Get a second-hand if one cannot afford a first-hand (like me
). If I'm not wrong, a second-hand 350D is about 850 quids (Gotta check clubsnap)
The Canon Powershot S-series is already quite steep in the learning curve IMO, almost on-par with a dSLR. In fact, I find it to be just like a dSLR, only that you can't change the lens and there's still some restriction in settings.
It was actually quite hard to convince my mum why I want a dSLR...
"Why do you need another camera? You already got one, don't you? What's the difference?"
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Bart, IMHO you've left out the key advantage of a prosumer. When I was getting my head around photography, I found the preview feature particularly handy because I got to play around and see how changes in the shutter speed and aperture size could affect the photo before I took it. That, combined with the S1's capability, made photography particularly satisfying such that I eventually moved up to DSLR. I'd go as far as to say that had I started with a 400D, I would probably have lost interest in photography at an early stage.
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Thats the thing...although I still newbie...maybe rather jump into a dSLR then slowly learn...cause changing of cameras cost more $$$$$$$.Originally posted by DarthBart:It was actually quite hard to convince my mum why I want a dSLR...
"Why do you need another camera? You already got one, don't you? What's the difference?"
If not, I don't go into photography liao. Its a too-expensive hobby liao. -
Got any friends into photography also?
If got ah, get the same brand of equipment, then the rest ah, no need I teach liao
(Wah! You got the XX-XXmm lens ah? Can lend? Can lend?)
Anyway, for the preview thingy. Its not as bad as during the film era and when dSLR are out of the reach of us mere mortals. The startup cost and running cost of film was really the thing that puts my interest in photography on hold. You need to develop the film before you can see the result and basically for a poor student like me, not quite possible.
Its no argument that the Powershot S1 to 5 is a very good camera, the super-macro is damn cool. (But dang... They only intro-ed the hotshoe in S5...) The downside is, if you're a fast-learner, you can grow out of it pretty soon. (15 seconds max shutter? No bulb?) And for people without much spare cash, not really a wise move to get a compact then a dSLR. I myself took quite a leap of faith to get my dSLR, albeit a second-hand one. (Not to mention persuading my mum) -
Ehh, I suppose it depends where you sit on the technology adoption scale as well as cash flow. I tend to approach things a but more slowly and I didn't decide to switch from the S1 to the 400D until I decided that I actually liked photography enough.
In any case, my next step is underwater photography, and the S1's underwater case is a helluva lot cheaper than one for the 400D, although after three months I still haven't tried it out.
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What about the Pentax K10D? Quite good raves too.
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Hmm. I like the idea of having IS built into the body instead of the lens, but that being the case I'd go for the Sony Alpha rather than the Pentax on terms of value for cost. At the end of the day, I'd go for a fast lens instead of IS, so it's no big deal IMHO.
A few people have said that the K10 is noisier at above ISO 800, compared to the 400D, much less the 30D which the K10 seems to be aimed at. -
go skyscrapercity.com under singapore forums ..ask for advice from profesionals there.
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I'm trying to get my hands on S5 IS. Tried a DSLR (Nikon D40) today. My first time using one. Used a 18mm-70mm lens. I really didn't like the way DSLR works. It's quite confusing. Still prefer a prosumer.
IMO, if you're a beginner or you're good at it already but lack a decent camera and you want to have more control over your settings, I'd say get a prosumer first. -
The S5 does look like a nice bit of kit. I got my S1 about three years ago and apart from the lack of macro it had a great set of features. Adding macro and cranking up the megapixels has made a great package even better.
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what would ya'll recommend for a rookie photographer
0-$1000 range
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Those lower-end DSLRs are all comparable to each other, so there isnt really such a thing as one being better than the other. Each has its own pros and cons, and at the end of the day its the user that matters more than the equipment.
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hrmmmm,Originally posted by latenightmonster:Those lower-end DSLRs are all comparable to each other, so there isnt really such a thing as one being better than the other. Each has its own pros and cons, and at the end of the day its the user that matters more than the equipment.
Canon or Nikon, they are so popular, do you think you will go wrong with either of them?
the lower end DSLRs dont have the sensor dust thing right?
how impt is that to capture good pictures?
and my primary shots will be on cars
so i need something with quick start up and anti shake
how about the 3-point focus capability
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For the sensor dust thingy, it'll depend on how lazy you are. Usually those dust that can be shaken off by the filter can also be blown away using a blower. If your sensor has dust, it'll end up as black spots on your pictures.Originally posted by iaintmad:hrmmmm,
the lower end DSLRs dont have the sensor dust thing right?
how impt is that to capture good pictures?
and my primary shots will be on cars
so i need something with quick start up and anti shake
how about the 3-point focus capability
9 point is better for this instance right?
Generally, all current dSLRs have quick startup. As for anti-shake, Canon and Nikon are all lens based. Sony's offering has sensor based, not too sure about other manufacturers.
As for focus, I usually only use one, the middle one. I'll aim at my subject, focus-lock, then I compose. Only when I'm lazy then I'll use AiAF (Canon)
Anyway, if you want 1st hand and below 1K, then I'll suggest you get Nikon, since that is the one that fits your budget. Go clubsnap if you wanna know more on photography -
thanks darth
im thinking of canon EOS 400D/350
what d'ya think?
its 500 above my budget, but i think its worth it -
o so how much is it?Originally posted by iaintmad:thanks darth
im thinkong of canon EOS 400D
what d'ya think?
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EOS 400D is 1.5k
the dust sensor cleaning system is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P8_LNmpFSc
specs at
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp
what do you think?
as i mentioned earlier, my primary focus will be on cars.
how?
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anybody have Alpha 100?
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How about EOS 350?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007QKN22/digicamguides-20
any reccommendation will be greatlyt appreciated
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IMO, 400D just had some minor improvement over 350D (minor in the sense that you can get a 350D and still be happy about it).
Increased sensor pixel-count, anti-dust etc. The only major improvement I feel is the increase in LCD size, from 1.8" to 2.5"
Other recommendation might be to get Nikon, D40, D40x or D80, I shall not elaborate on Nikon since I'm not really familiar with their system.
And if possible, dump the kit lens and get a better lens. You mentioned taking pictures of cars, so a fast lens with narrow depth of field might come in handy. -
Its best that you go down to the shops and have a feel with the camera, you'll be the one using it and afterall the camera have to be the one you're comfortable with. What is good for me might not be good for you.
Its just that I got used to Canon's UI and feel, so I've been talking about Canon all the while
So if you've not been using much digital camera or SLRs, then you're a 'clean slate' and can easily adapt to a system. -
N40 doesnt have the anti-dust systemOriginally posted by DarthBart:IMO, 400D just had some minor improvement over 350D (minor in the sense that you can get a 350D and still be happy about it).
Increased sensor pixel-count, anti-dust etc. The only major improvement I feel is the increase in LCD size, from 1.8" to 2.5"
Other recommendation might be to get Nikon, D40, D40x or D80, I shall not elaborate on Nikon since I'm not really familiar with their system.
And if possible, dump the kit lens and get a better lens. You mentioned taking pictures of cars, so a fast lens with narrow depth of field might come in handy.
hrmmm.
my dad has loads of lenses,
can kope from him, if competible
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Since ur dad has loads of lenses, that kinda narrows down the system
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went to see sony a100 today
its...
wow
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydslra100/
but then again
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canon 350d is good.
Been using it for some shots and been pretty well