Fish wanted, dead and alive...
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yin yang chicken chop, drum stick, chicken wings?
yin yang duck chop, drum stick, duck wings?
yin yang lamb chop?
yin yang pork chop?
yin yang beef steak?
yin yang frog legs?
yin yang sotong? -
u still do not get it. like i said, u have never been in the situation, therefore, u do not have the right to proclaim moral superiority over other human beings.Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:Oh but I WOULD screw a very sexy girl even if I had a gf
But my point is that because I know that killing a creature in such a way is wrong I wouldn't put myself in a situation such as the one you described. If you were against prostitution you wouldn't walk into a brothel would you? If I had a gf I wouldn't even let another girl get naked in my bedroom would I?
The way I see it is -
Consumer point of view: The dish is controversial and I know how the fish is served yet I still choose to order it anyway and eat it while it's still alive.
Cook's point of view: I have to put another creature through intense pain and serve it to people who will eat it while it's still alive yet I choose to do so with this knowledge.
And you misunderstand my last statement. What I meant was that you can't say that you have to have the dish in front of you and you're very hungry then could you say you're against it, we're against it and we can say people who eat it are wrong in doing so because they have prior knowledge before having the dish in front of them. If they're hungry they could always eat something else but they eat the fish even though they know the amount of suffering it goes through.
wat u r doing is just shutting off the source before u even have a chance. who is to say that u can do the same thing when u have the chance?
apparently, u did not read about the prison experiment, did u? -
so many 'new idea' ah. why not have yin yang china manOriginally posted by Pitot:just eat the food and shut up.
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hm. i realli love to see this dish n try it
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It's bloody fcuked up.
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Here's the link to the video of it
Too short
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTUPHExilFk[/b]
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Well I do understand what you're trying to get across but I feel that we're arguing over different points. You're trying to say that maybe I would try the fish if I had the chance to with the dish right in front of me.Originally posted by Ristar:u still do not get it. like i said, u have never been in the situation, therefore, u do not have the right to proclaim moral superiority over other human beings.
wat u r doing is just shutting off the source before u even have a chance. who is to say that u can do the same thing when u have the chance?
apparently, u did not read about the prison experiment, did u?
What I'm saying is that people who intentionally place themselves in that position with the intention to have the fish from the moment they order it on the menu are wrong in the way that they most likely made that decision from the moment they found out about the dish.
Say if they were to be blindfolded and left until they were very hungry then placed in a restaurant with the fish in front of them and the cost of it taken out of their wallets and they then proceeded to eat it, THEN I wouldn't 'proclaim moral superiority over them'.
But I think it's wrong to cook a fish in that way or any other creature for that matter but those who eat it obviously don't and they make up their mind that they don't have a problem with torturing fish by condoning it by finding out about the dish and then going to a restaurant which serves it with the intention of ordering and eating it then doing so. -
Welcome to China
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no! and honestly, im getting extremely tired of this argument.Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:Well I do understand what you're trying to get across but I feel that we're arguing over different points. You're trying to say that maybe I would try the fish if I had the chance to with the dish right in front of me.
What I'm saying is that people who intentionally place themselves in that position with the intention to have the fish from the moment they order it on the menu are wrong in the way that they most likely made that decision from the moment they found out about the dish.
Say if they were to be blindfolded and left until they were very hungry then placed in a restaurant with the fish in front of them and the cost of it taken out of their wallets and they then proceeded to eat it, THEN I wouldn't 'proclaim moral superiority over them'.
But I think it's wrong to cook a fish in that way or any other creature for that matter but those who eat it obviously don't and they make up their mind that they don't have a problem with torturing fish by condoning it by finding out about the dish and then going to a restaurant which serves it with the intention of ordering and eating it then doing so.
so, go and read up on why people behave the way they do, and the prison experiment i stated earlier. if u did, then u would really understand WHY i said wat i said.
only by putting the both types (those who mind and those who dun) through the SAME thing then can one see the difference. therefore, say if he is better or worse than the other party. which is again, another subjective issue.
u resist, because u r raised to think its wrong and/or past experience says so. there are others in other countries that pretty much eat anything dead or alive, or half dead. are they all psychotic, or are they just raised differently?
there is no such thing as buy already + hungry = must eat. if one is strong he/she would leave and not "sin". come on, u mean the whole country only has 1 restaurant?!
and i did not mention any kidnapping scenarios, thank you very much.
and while we are talking abt eating a half dead fish, would u eat, or have u eaten before, a cockroach, rat, dog, cat, turtle, snake, rabbit, horse, deer, snail, shark (not just the fin) and all that?
my point: any human being is capable of anything, including great cruelty to animals, and to fellow human beings. by saying that u wont do it, and that its wrong without having resisted it before means absolutely nothing. -
Interesting.