Fish wanted, dead and alive...
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okOriginally posted by Pitot:just eat the food and shut up.
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I cook my brocolli like that also
I hear them scream~~ Arghh~~ the agony~~!! -
where is the peekture
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wah liew, i really laugh out loud when i see thisOriginally posted by DC+:I soak my oreos in my milo this way what
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No need to look for restaurants. I cook crabs alive during BBQ -
fark you lah wait till you get fried aliveOriginally posted by Ristar:f--- the animal rights. ALL life are expandable except human life.
however... i dunno if i can eat a fish thats still alive.
but cooked alive, im all for it. fresh wat~ -
you sick fuckOriginally posted by Ristar:f--- the animal rights. ALL life are expandable except human life.
however... i dunno if i can eat a fish thats still alive.
but cooked alive, im all for it. fresh wat~ -
What's is the different when you end a life then you eat it, and when you eat it while ending its life?
It's the same. The life of that fish has ended.
Be a vegetarian and save animal today. -
Originally posted by gigabyte14:
go treat yourself to a mud pie.
you sick fu[b]ck[/b] -
Hmm...just think of all the "yin yang" dishes possible...
Don't think I should type out
will there be a "yin yang" restaurant selling all the "yin yang" dishes in singapore? -
Fishes has receptors along the side of their bodies, and they have brains.Originally posted by banzie:I read from somewhere that Fishes doesn't have nerves... issit true?
Can someone tell me?
They can sense vibrations and disturbances to the water.
They know the distance and direction of the source of the disturbances, and also know if its dangerous or neutral.
Just because they do not have vocal cords to yell out in pain does not mean they do not have nerves. -
This is so inhuman... Shit... If u wanna end it's life, just chop off it's headwhich is also sort of inhuman) or something, instead of frying it alive and let itself watch itself being eaten....
Here's the link to the video of it
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the reporter in the vid says the fish is put in extreme pain...man how can people be so cruel?? It's so disturbing how the fish is still alive when they dig into it. Just imagine getting your body fried in oil and people eating you while you watch...sick bastards they are...
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isnt that how animals in the wild get eaten? not many animals kill their prey before eating them.
but... I find it totally unacceptable for highly intelligent animals like us to consciously eat another animal in such a manner. -
intelligent or not, animals are still animals.Originally posted by o0Nite0o:isnt that how animals in the wild get eaten? not many animals kill their prey before eating them.
but... I find it totally unacceptable for highly intelligent animals like us to consciously eat another animal in such a manner.
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i'd like to bring up another point on the animal called "human being".
picture yourself as a warden in a prison in charge of many prisoners.
would u torture them using sadistic methods? of course, many of u would curse and swear at me and self righteously proclaim 'no'.
however, before u do so, read up on the Standford Prison Experiment. exactly the same thing happened in Abu Ghraib, except in this case, its not an experiment.
my point, u may think such acts are deplorable at the moment and that u will absolutely not execute them. only when u have been there and NOT done that before, then maybe u can sling mud at whoever's cooking and/or eating.
because, u are not in the situation, do not have the opportunity, and the means of doing such a thing, less cooking and eating your own pet fish which u wont because of the situation factor.
my point:
before slinging mud, self righteous wise guys, go there. order this dish, and when served walk away, if u could. keeping in mind that the fish is gonna die anyway, and that u r really very hungry at the moment. and if u walked away, somebody else is gonna eat it, or dump it into the trash.
and since we are singaporeans, yah, u paid for it. -
Originally posted by Ristar:
Okay right now I have the oppurtunity to go to find out where I can order this dish and go to one of those restaurants and eat a half fried fish but I choose not to. Therefore I'm not like the sick bastards who do go there and order that dish or the other sick bastards who even invented the recipe for that dish to start with. Because, like you said, you need to thave the oppurtunity to do something like that. Well right now I have the oppurtunity to grab a pen and paper and create a recipe which involves horrendously torturing an animal as part of the preparation but once again I choose not to. The last paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. The people who eat that dish decide to from the moment they walk into that restaurant. They don't wait until they're very hungry and order that dish as if it's the only thing they can possibly eat.
intelligent or not, animals are still animals.
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i'd like to bring up another point on the animal called "human being".
picture yourself as a warden in a prison in charge of many prisoners.
would u torture them using sadistic methods? of course, many of u would curse and swear at me and self righteously proclaim 'no'.
however, before u do so, read up on the Standford Prison Experiment. exactly the same thing happened in Abu Ghraib, except in this case, its not an experiment.
my point, u may think such acts are deplorable at the moment and that u will absolutely not execute them. only when u have been there and NOT done that before, then maybe u can sling mud at whoever's cooking and/or eating.
because, u are not in the [b]situation, do not have the opportunity, and the means of doing such a thing, less cooking and eating your own pet fish which u wont because of the situation factor.
my point:
before slinging mud, self righteous wise guys, go there. order this dish, and when served walk away, if u could. keeping in mind that the fish is gonna die anyway, and that u r really very hungry at the moment. and if u walked away, somebody else is gonna eat it, or dump it into the trash.
and since we are singaporeans, yah, u paid for it.[/b] -
jon, u did not understand my post completely before replying, i hope u will refrain from doing so in the future. in addition, paragraphing your post would help keep it tidy, organised, and easy to read.Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:Okay right now I have the oppurtunity to go to find out where I can order this dish and go to one of those restaurants and eat a half fried fish but I choose not to. Therefore I'm not like the sick bastards who do go there and order that dish or the other sick bastards who even invented the recipe for that dish to start with. Because, like you said, you need to thave the oppurtunity to do something like that. Well right now I have the oppurtunity to grab a pen and paper and create a recipe which involves horrendously torturing an animal as part of the preparation but once again I choose not to. The last paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. The people who eat that dish decide to from the moment they walk into that restaurant. They don't wait until they're very hungry and order that dish as if it's the only thing they can possibly eat.
there are 3 things, remember?
situation
opportunity
means
from consumer point of view
situation - restaurant, order the dish, have it served, n u r hungry
opportunity - finding a restaurant that serves this
means - money
from cook's point of view
situation - novelty of dishes, making money, overhead charges, human traffic
opportunity - im no bizness man.
means - the correct tools.
your reply is weak.
a parallel situation to your reply would be...
u say u wont screw a very very sexy ger coz u have a gf.. blah blah blah. u fail to take note that she is clothed and isnt making any moves on u at the moment and that u 2 are in a public place.
the correct example would be in a situation where this very very sexy ger is naked and doing lotsa stuff to tempt u in your bedroom, on your bed. if u can walk away, great. if u cant, its ok.
like i said. go to the place when u r hungry, order some food, with the controversial dish, and dun eat it. if u can, great. if u cant, its ok.
as for having already made up their minds when they are walking into the restaurant.... how many times have u walked into one and start to flip the menu?
lastly, your "very hungry" statement is quite weak too. u mean to say that under that situation u would eat it, but not when u r "less hungry"? -
Originally posted by Ristar:
at least when lions kill their prey they kill it completely before they eat it
intelligent or not, animals are still animals.
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i'd like to bring up another point on the animal called "human being".
picture yourself as a warden in a prison in charge of many prisoners.
would u torture them using sadistic methods? of course, many of u would curse and swear at me and self righteously proclaim 'no'.
however, before u do so, read up on the Standford Prison Experiment. exactly the same thing happened in Abu Ghraib, except in this case, its not an experiment.
my point, u may think such acts are deplorable at the moment and that u will absolutely not execute them. only when u have been there and NOT done that before, then maybe u can sling mud at whoever's cooking and/or eating.
because, u are not in the [b]situation, do not have the opportunity, and the means of doing such a thing, less cooking and eating your own pet fish which u wont because of the situation factor.
my point:
before slinging mud, self righteous wise guys, go there. order this dish, and when served walk away, if u could. keeping in mind that the fish is gonna die anyway, and that u r really very hungry at the moment. and if u walked away, somebody else is gonna eat it, or dump it into the trash.
and since we are singaporeans, yah, u paid for it.[/b]
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my point exactly. the human mind is at fault, not the individual's.Originally posted by gigabyte14:at least when lions kill their prey they kill it completely before they eat it
humans are such sadistic brutes
and if one has not "been there but not done it", he has no right to proclaim moral superiority over the other human being.
btw, lions do not research on weapons or new ways to kill its own species everyday. humans do. -
eepOriginally posted by Ristar:my point exactly. the human mind is at fault, not the individual's.
and if one has not "been there but not done it", he has no right to proclaim moral superiority over the other human being.
we're taking the blame even if we're not doing it
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r u trying to flame me, or u dun understand wat i said in all those posts?Originally posted by gigabyte14:eep
we're taking the blame even if we're not doing it -
i'm not trying to flame youOriginally posted by Ristar:r u trying to flame me, or u dun understand wat i said in all those posts?
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right. sorry if i sounded hostile.Originally posted by gigabyte14:i'm not trying to flame you
don't get me wrong
well, for the record, theres always a chance of anyone of us being one of the "moral" human beings, and many others being the "hungrier" ones.
therefore, mankind is not at fault yet because only a few individuals gave in to temptation. -
how can we stop this?Originally posted by Ristar:right. sorry if i sounded hostile.
well, for the record, theres always a chance of anyone of us being one of the "moral" human beings, and many others being the "hungrier" ones.
therefore, mankind is not at fault yet because only a few individuals gave in to temptation.
it's ok if we continue with this?
when i saw the fish i could feel it's pain
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Originally posted by Ristar:
Oh but I WOULD screw a very sexy girl even if I had a gf
jon, [b]u did not understand my post completely before replying, i hope u will refrain from doing so in the future. in addition, paragraphing your post would help keep it tidy, organised, and easy to read.
there are 3 things, remember?
situation
opportunity
means
from consumer point of view
situation - restaurant, order the dish, have it served, n u r hungry
opportunity - finding a restaurant that serves this
means - money
from cook's point of view
situation - novelty of dishes, making money, overhead charges, human traffic
opportunity - im no bizness man.
means - the correct tools.
your reply is weak.
a parallel situation to your reply would be...
u say u wont screw a very very sexy ger coz u have a gf.. blah blah blah. u fail to take note that she is clothed and isnt making any moves on u at the moment and that u 2 are in a public place.
the correct example would be in a situation where this very very sexy ger is naked and doing lotsa stuff to tempt u in your bedroom, on your bed. if u can walk away, great. if u cant, its ok.
like i said. go to the place when u r hungry, order some food, with the controversial dish, and dun eat it. if u can, great. if u cant, its ok.
as for having already made up their minds when they are walking into the restaurant.... how many times have u walked into one and start to flip the menu?
lastly, your "very hungry" statement is quite weak too. u mean to say that under that situation u would eat it, but not when u r "less hungry"?[/b]
But my point is that because I know that killing a creature in such a way is wrong I wouldn't put myself in a situation such as the one you described. If you were against prostitution you wouldn't walk into a brothel would you? If I had a gf I wouldn't even let another girl get naked in my bedroom would I?
The way I see it is -
Consumer point of view: The dish is controversial and I know how the fish is served yet I still choose to order it anyway and eat it while it's still alive.
Cook's point of view: I have to put another creature through intense pain and serve it to people who will eat it while it's still alive yet I choose to do so with this knowledge.
And you misunderstand my last statement. What I meant was that you can't say that you have to have the dish in front of you and you're very hungry then could you say you're against it, we're against it and we can say people who eat it are wrong in doing so because they have prior knowledge before having the dish in front of them. If they're hungry they could always eat something else but they eat the fish even though they know the amount of suffering it goes through.