Asia Business Directory listing is a scam, any victims?

• youthbegons

  12 Oct 07, 14:18

  Originally posted by redstone:

  S/No. Reg. No. Business / Company / LLP / PAC / PAF Name Status on Register
  
  1 200706013G SINGAPORE BUSINESS PAGES PTE. LTD. Live
  1 31528100J ASIA BUSINESS DIRECTORY Terminated

  thanks for all the replies guys. Can you confirm this? it's good news for all..
• DailyFreeGames.com

  12 Oct 07, 14:48

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• 4getmenot

  12 Oct 07, 21:10

  Originally posted by redstone:

  Hmm.... someone I know who unknowingly signed the form got billed by them recently.... And I don't see that directory being circulated, other than online at such an obscure portal.

  thats exactly what they want you to believe.. that their 'actually' circualting this 'directory' to your prospective customers but in fact are doing s$%t other than that pretty hard to navigate and useless portal to cheat the tech-less management..
• stopthescam

  13 Oct 07, 01:48

  Hi all,
  
  Same scam from the same group of people are active in Hong Kong too! They have been reported all over Hong Kong! Please check the following news from HK newspapers (in Chinese)
  
  Yahoo News: http://hk.news.yahoo.com/060728/12/1qn0u.html
  
  Apple Daily News: http://appledaily.atnext.com/template/apple/art_main.cfm?iss_id=20060719&sec_id=4104&subsec_id=2753&art_id=6140118
  
  Apple Daily News: http://appledaily.atnext.com/template/apple/art_main.cfm?iss_id=20060729&sec_id=4104&subsec_id=11867&art_id=6171653
  
  Sing Tao News: http://hk.news.yahoo.com/070715/60/2bidb.html
  
  Ming Pao News: http://hk.news.yahoo.com/070715/12/2bi46.html
  
  Ming Pao News: http://hk.news.yahoo.com/070719/12/2bvas.html
  
  Ming Pao News: http://hk.news.yahoo.com/070719/12/2bv2e.html
  
  Shing Tao News: http://hk.news.yahoo.com/070719/60/2bv2f.html
  
  HK Headline News: http://www.hkheadline.com/news/headline_news_detail.asp?id=29970§ion_name=wnn
  
  The scam has also been broadcasted on RTHK (HK Radio Channel) in Chinese: http://www.rthk.org.hk/rthk/news/expressnews/news.htm?expressnews&20070719&55&417138
  
  The HK police has officially released a press release about the case (in English): http://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/200707/19/P200707190228.htm
  
  Please stay firm and do not pay the money to the scammers. You were encouraging the scam and making other victims suffer if you gave in to them. THAT IS NOT GOOD!
• stopthescam

  13 Oct 07, 01:58

  By the way, forgot to mention that the "known" victims has exceeded 300 in Hong Kong, and taking into the account the ones who paid to avoid issues the number may have exceeded 1000. From an inside source about 80% of victims chooses to pay. It's easy money and that's why those scammers keep on cheating people for a living... PLEASE SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND REPORT THE CASE TO THE SINGAPORE POLICE
  
  Feel free to leave me messages for further discussion.
• uraniumw

  13 Oct 07, 15:37

  My company just received the request for payment recently. And i saw the document as well. I was stumped. How did they forge the signature and the company rubber stamp? What to do next? We have not paid up yet.
  
  Victims gather! and shut them down. last i heard they are still operating!
• yiha093

  13 Oct 07, 15:44

  Originally posted by stopthescam:

  Hi all,
  
  Same scam from the same group of people are active in Hong Kong too! They have been reported all over Hong Kong! Please check the following news from HK newspapers (in Chinese)
  
  Yahoo News: http://hk.news.yahoo.com/060728/12/1qn0u.html
  
  Apple Daily News: http://appledaily.atnext.com/template/apple/art_main.cfm?iss_id=20060719&sec_id=4104&subsec_id=2753&art_id=6140118
  
  Apple Daily News: http://appledaily.atnext.com/template/apple/art_main.cfm?iss_id=20060729&sec_id=4104&subsec_id=11867&art_id=6171653
  
  Sing Tao News: http://hk.news.yahoo.com/070715/60/2bidb.html
  Ming Pao News: http://hk.news.yahoo.com/070715/12/2bi46.html
  
  Ming Pao News: http://hk.news.yahoo.com/070719/12/2bvas.html
  
  Ming Pao News: http://hk.news.yahoo.com/070719/12/2bv2e.html
  
  Shing Tao News: http://hk.news.yahoo.com/070719/60/2bv2f.html
  
  HK Headline News: http://www.hkheadline.com/news/headline_news_detail.asp?id=29970§ion_name=wnn
  The scam has also been broadcasted on RTHK (HK Radio Channel) in Chinese: http://www.rthk.org.hk/rthk/news/expressnews/news.htm?expressnews&20070719&55&417138
  
  The HK police has officially released a press release about the case (in English): http://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/200707/19/P200707190228.htm
  
  Please stay firm and do not pay the money to the scammers. You were encouraging the scam and making other victims suffer if you gave in to them. THAT IS NOT GOOD!

  
• redstone

  13 Oct 07, 21:16

  Some lowly scum out to con people. Not above anyone, even below the lowest decent jobs.
• youthbegons

  23 Oct 07, 00:26

  Originally posted by uraniumw:

  My company just received the request for payment recently. And i saw the document as well. I was stumped. How did they forge the signature and the company rubber stamp? What to do next? We have not paid up yet.
  
  Victims gather! and shut them down. last i heard they are still operating!

  Please PM me about your company situation maybe we can find a solution together?
• youthbegons

  23 Oct 07, 00:38

  Anyway guys, here's the latest news. since i'm not giving them a single shit, they've recently send me another letter for final reminder.
  
  Like i've mention earlier my friend used to work for greenbook. He advise me not to pay them a single dime. since the amount is about 8000+ most likely they wont even try going to court. even if they do i need some supporters.
  
  i need to bring this case up in the open. Since even CASE not able to do anything, I need to get to know more people who are just in the same situation so that we can bring it to the judge and let him deside (if it comes to it).
  
  the theory is that they're are just out to scare you to go for legal means but they're not really doing it. i was told to make a small cancellation fee of 800 but i ignored. by right the duration of the final letter is up but yet again they're sending me a second final letter. Lets hope all the best.
  
  You can send me a PM.
  
  
• 4getmenot

  23 Oct 07, 02:05

  Originally posted by youthbegons:

  Anyway guys, here's the latest news. since i'm not giving them a single shit, they've recently send me another letter for final reminder.
  
  Like i've mention earlier my friend used to work for greenbook. He advise me not to pay them a single dime. since the amount is about 8000+ most likely they wont even try going to court. even if they do i need some supporters.
  
  i need to bring this case up in the open. Since even CASE not able to do anything, I need to get to know more people who are just in the same situation so that we can bring it to the judge and let him deside (if it comes to it).
  
  the theory is that they're are just out to scare you to go for legal means but they're not really doing it. i was told to make a small cancellation fee of 800 but i ignored. by right the duration of the final letter is up but yet again they're sending me a second final letter. Lets hope all the best.
  
  You can send me a PM.
  
  

  good luck dude.. its unfortunate CASE is not even willing to give a hand..
• youthbegons

  7 Nov 07, 00:05

  please keep this topic open to remind others. and by the way so far nothing... wish me luck guys
• youthbegons

  11 Nov 07, 13:07

  anymore updates? i'll keep this topic as long as i can please lend me your support.
• scarborough

  16 Nov 07, 17:24

  See my posting at :
  
  http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=288757
  
  

  Originally posted by youthbegons:

  two pages one saying it's a letter for a listing for your company in size 12. to confirm listing chop and sign on second page.
  
  but second page mention 2years contract at $4250 per year in very small lettering in size 6. report to CASE but they only handle consumer not company. CASE mention i'm not the only victim, more complaints are coming every day. they claim to be similar to yellow pages giving listing but never mention prices clearly. while yellow pages are free listing.
  
  Meeting the MP to discuss the matter? anybody want to share opinion
  
  please keep the page open as long as possible to warn others

• scarborough

  16 Nov 07, 17:27

  CASE is for B to C, in this case, it is more B to B, thus, lawyers are going to make from both end if you engage a lawyer.
  
  The good things are so far, all the victims who did not paid are not sued!!! I will update it on http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=288757
  
  I have gathered many people feedback
  
  

  Originally posted by youthbegons:

  anybody? i know there's a few of you guys out there. share the experience to warn others. CASE told me theres a number of people who came forward to complain.

• scarborough

  16 Nov 07, 17:29

  Pls, don't pay the Ang Mo
  
  

  Originally posted by youthbegons:

  case told me that they can do nothing much since they're ment for consumer not corprate. the told me to get a lawyer. i check with a friend of mine who's working for greenbook, he told me not to worry cuz it's not that easy for them since normally payment and money issue should not be printed in very small lettering. he told me to just to ignore. the thing is i've received a letter recently to make the cancellation fees otherwise pay the full ammount of 9000. it's just crazy. cancellation fee is at 800 but i'm paying them for just sitting and doing nothing beside faxing and sending letters and hopping people like me get cought. are there anybody out there sharing the same problem? any sollutions?

• scarborough

  16 Nov 07, 17:30

  I hate to see anyone being scammed by others, especially this foreigner think that we are all dumb. I am not going to let this Ang Mo con our hard earn money and enjoying (hiding) himself in Philippines.
  Pls help to write in to ACRA, the more people write in the better.
  
  Enforcement Division
  Accounting & Corporate Regulatory Authority (ACRA)
  10 Anson Road
  #05-01/15
  Singapore 079903
  Fax: (65) 6225 1676
  
  I have also started a discussion at:
  http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=288757
  
  Pls share your experience at the forum too.
  
  Attached is their company profile.
  
  Thanks
  Jack
  
  

  Originally posted by Mr_Nameless:

  Fvck sia, a few of my friends were asked to pay 4000 plus!!!!
  
  How now? Anyone knows?

• scarborough

  16 Nov 07, 17:32

  The Company Details concern:
  Asian Business Directories Pte Ltd
  Co. Reg. No. : 200510208K
  Address: 2A Jalan Klapa Singapore 199314
  Company Director: Christian Hamoeller (Mr)
  Person in charge: Belle Joe (Ms)
  
  

  Originally posted by redstone:

  S/No. Reg. No. Business / Company / LLP / PAC / PAF Name Status on Register
  
  1 200706013G SINGAPORE BUSINESS PAGES PTE. LTD. Live
  1 31528100J ASIA BUSINESS DIRECTORY Terminated

• scarborough

  16 Nov 07, 17:33

  The Company Details concern:
  Asian Business Directories Pte Ltd
  Co. Reg. No. : 200510208K
  Address: 2A Jalan Klapa Singapore 199314
  Company Director: Christian Hamoeller (Mr)
  Person in charge: Belle Joe (Ms)
  
  

  Originally posted by youthbegons:

  thanks for all the replies guys. Can you confirm this? it's good news for all..

• scarborough

  16 Nov 07, 17:42

  Pls help to write in to ACRA, the more people write in the better.
  
  Enforcement Division
  Accounting & Corporate Regulatory Authority (ACRA)
  10 Anson Road
  #05-01/15
  Singapore 079903
  Fax: (65) 6225 1676
  
  I have also started a discussion at:
  http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=288757
  
  

  Originally posted by uraniumw:

  My company just received the request for payment recently. And i saw the document as well. I was stumped. How did they forge the signature and the company rubber stamp? What to do next? We have not paid up yet.
  
  Victims gather! and shut them down. last i heard they are still operating!

• scarborough

  16 Nov 07, 17:44

  
  Pls help to write in to ACRA, the more people write in the better.
  
  Enforcement Division
  Accounting & Corporate Regulatory Authority (ACRA)
  10 Anson Road
  #05-01/15
  Singapore 079903
  Fax: (65) 6225 1676
  
  I have also started a discussion at:
  http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=288757
  
  

  Originally posted by youthbegons:

  Anyway guys, here's the latest news. since i'm not giving them a single shit, they've recently send me another letter for final reminder.
  
  Like i've mention earlier my friend used to work for greenbook. He advise me not to pay them a single dime. since the amount is about 8000+ most likely they wont even try going to court. even if they do i need some supporters.
  
  i need to bring this case up in the open. Since even CASE not able to do anything, I need to get to know more people who are just in the same situation so that we can bring it to the judge and let him deside (if it comes to it).
  
  the theory is that they're are just out to scare you to go for legal means but they're not really doing it. i was told to make a small cancellation fee of 800 but i ignored. by right the duration of the final letter is up but yet again they're sending me a second final letter. Lets hope all the best.
  
  You can send me a PM.
  
  

• scarborough

  16 Nov 07, 17:44

  I am with you, pls dont pay them
  
  

  Originally posted by youthbegons:

  anymore updates? i'll keep this topic as long as i can please lend me your support.

• stopthescam

  17 Nov 07, 01:13

  Please fight hard and kick those filthy ugly pathetic foreigners out of our country! It is a shame that they can get work visa for conning people! What's on their job title? Professional conman?
  
  I feel sorry for their moms.
• Hidetox

  17 Nov 07, 01:47

  -.- dun write in... u send letter to ACRA no use... mostly it better u all read thru the right way to complaint a company at www.acra.gov.sg
  
  there is a link under Compliance
• TS Kan

  18 Nov 07, 12:18

  Originally posted by Hidetox:

  -.- dun write in... u send letter to ACRA no use... mostly it better u all read thru the right way to complaint a company at www.acra.gov.sg
  
  there is a link under Compliance

  You are right! Bloody waste of time writing to ACRA. Better suggestion is for all affected to contribute a nominal amount to a fund solely set up to sue these 'mother f..kers' until they are bankrupt and 'close shop' for ever! Also sue those bloody Singaporean traitors (these people have 'prostituted' themselves and sold their 'souls' for 'peanuts from their foreign bosses) who are share-holders, directors and employees of this foreigner-controlled company.
  
  Correction to mis-informed facts mentioned in this forum:
  
  Asian Business Directories (31528100J) was voluntary terminated as a business entity but Asian Business Directories Pte Ltd (200510208K) is very much 'alive & kicking'.